Grass, polarization and a political take purge
Are you on drugs? I'm not.
Adam:Okay. I dropped my fork. It touched my foot. What's the rule? Can I still use it?
Dax:Just eat it. It's it's your own foot.
Adam:But it's a foot. I mean, feet are maybe the grossest part of me.
Dax:Oh my god. I forgot what you're like.
Adam:What do you mean you forgot what I was like? We just talked on ten seconds. So
Dax:No. I'm like I'm like remembering that you're insane. It's just it's just eat it. Adam, it's good for you.
Adam:I'm gonna eat it. I gotta find the apple chunk that fell as well.
Dax:You gotta eat that too.
Adam:Oh, there was no apple chunk. The the four total. It was the rest of the apple chunk was in the bowl.
Dax:I'm sorry. Helping your case.
Adam:I'm no. I'm guys, this is the least amount of substances that have been in my body for a couple weeks. That didn't make a good case. Wow. Do I really sound high?
Adam:I'm not high. I stayed up till 01:30AM
Dax:Okay.
Adam:Which is super atypical for me.
Dax:Mhmm.
Adam:It's why you were late today, Dax. Why were you so late, by way?
Dax:You actually had me you had me you got me for a second. I was like, was I late?
Adam:You just say something confidently enough and yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I said Casey and I were up super late because I had an emotion.
Dax:Oh, yeah. You said that you cried yesterday.
Adam:Oh, I wasn't gonna say that on the podcast, but okay.
Dax:I You guess cut it out.
Adam:You say something on Twitter. You said it
Dax:on Twitter, dude.
Adam:I said it to nobody. I said it to my little corner.
Dax:Let's check the number of impressions on that tweet later.
Adam:Okay. Yeah. Let's do. So I I felt something in a conversation with Casey last night that kept us up to 01:30, and I'm gonna leave it at that. But I will say, I don't feel a lot of things.
Adam:Do you feel like you have a lot of emotional depth? Do you feel like you don't strike me as like a super emotional guy.
Dax:I don't know. I wouldn't describe myself as emotional, but I I guess like I said, I am very dramatic and they're like very adjacent. So
Adam:I you know, I don't know. I don't know.
Dax:I think I think
Adam:I dramatic? But I think, like, not emotionally dramatic, though. Right? Like, I think you're dramatic in your, like, public presence and your, like, strategy. Or is that not what you mean?
Adam:When you say dramatic?
Dax:When I say dramatic, I just mean I love to think about things in a very extreme way almost like how it would play out in a movie with like good guys and bad guys and and ups and downs and twists and turns and like and all that stuff so. Yep. Yep. And I think in general I just I just like to think hard about everything so that includes stuff in that category as well. So I wouldn't say I'm emotional, but I wouldn't say I'm like like, I that I, like, avoid that part of life.
Adam:Yeah. Okay. I don't avoid it. I it wasn't by choice. I I think there were things that shaped me.
Adam:And I'm not gonna really talk about it. But I think there are reasons I don't have a lot of emotional depth. And then, like, there's little moments where I have very, like, strong, what I would call probably normal emotions for other people, but, like, they feel very intense. And it's like, oh, I actually have them. I just literally shove them so deep that I don't feel them anymore.
Adam:Wow. This has gotten really dark. I'm sorry. Isn't that
Dax:dark? Is it mean, it sounds sounds normal. I mean, I You say so. I would say so, Liz, that my approach with anything is just shove it deep down until it turns into like a hard ball of something that's just slowly gonna kill me at some point. But, know, I can't feel it for now.
Adam:Yeah. Exactly. At least for the next few days, I'm good.
Dax:Yeah. I mean, you teased the hell out of literally everyone.
Adam:What did I do?
Dax:Just you you're like vaguely talking about this all this stuff, and you're not gonna reveal it. You don't have to, but
Adam:About what stuff? I'm not gonna oh, the remotes of stuff, I'm definitely not gonna talk about. It's just like it's not a thing I would talk about. But I felt like I could talk about the I mean, I've talked about how I'm a robot, and I don't feel like I have a lot of feelings. I gotta go back to the high thing because this is so funny to me that people think right now, okay.
Adam:I gotta I'm gonna say some stuff. And it's totally illegal, so it's fine.
Dax:I'm gonna
Adam:say some stuff. Yeah. I I do. I supplement with some THC CBD stuff on occasion. Okay?
Adam:I've had nothing today.
Dax:Why is this the first day?
Adam:Because my wife came in. She brought me Is there a cop? He said, why don't you look over your shoulder? Like, is there a cop? No.
Adam:So I I've been taking for a while for, like, a few weeks. Oh, no. It all lines up. So I've been taking some stuff that it just calms me down. It just makes me feel a little more, like, mellow.
Adam:Mostly around my kids. I just I'm pretty uptight. Okay? You know this about me. I'm a pretty uptight person.
Adam:Casey's watching me. Oh, god. This is so awkward. So I'm a pretty uptight person. I've been taking some stuff, and today I haven't had any of it.
Adam:And now you guys think I'm high. So it's just funny to me. I've been high for, like, every conversation we've had for the last month. Oh. And today, I'm not, And you think I'm high.
Adam:I'm not being high. I don't take that much. It's just like a little bit. It's just like takes the edge off. You know?
Dax:I see.
Adam:It makes me a better dad. Okay? Like, it literally makes me a better dad. No apologies.
Dax:So you're doing it for the children?
Adam:I'm doing it for the children. I literally take it at the end of my workday. And like the rest of the evening, I'm just the coolest dad. I'm not like
Dax:What do you actually take? What is this?
Adam:Are we going there? We're going into okay. Specific products?
Dax:I'm just curious because I would like to try.
Adam:Yeah. No. Yeah. Okay. You would like to try.
Adam:Maybe other listeners would like to try.
Dax:Just the hell of it. I'm I'm done to try anything.
Adam:It's legal in Missouri. Okay?
Dax:It's legal?
Adam:It's legal. Recreational. Just whatever. Do whatever you want.
Dax:Marijuana is legal in Missouri.
Adam:Marijuana is legal in Missouri. It is.
Dax:That's so random to me.
Adam:I know. Yeah. Missouri's I thought it'd be, like, the last state Yeah. If I'm being honest. But for whatever reason, we've had medical for a while and now, break racial's legal.
Adam:Anyway, nineteen o six, they make these little tablets tablets, I guess. They're like a pill you swallow. It's not like a I don't smoke. I'm not gonna, like, hit a bong. I don't know.
Adam:Not that that's wrong. I just, like I'm not a deep culture kind of guy.
Dax:I was imagining that it turns out this whole time you're just doing bong grips after after you get off stream. Yeah.
Adam:I don't know why why is this so taboo? Why does it feel so weird to talk about? It shouldn't.
Dax:No. I just think it's taboo. It's just a okay.
Adam:Sorry. Is that something people say?
Dax:You definitely sound high after saying that. So you take these little tablets and you just take one and then it's like you barely feel it. Like it's just it's not like it's not like you're actively feeling too much?
Adam:I don't yeah. I don't feel like cognitively any different.
Dax:Okay. And it's a THC pill?
Adam:Yeah. It's a blend of so okay. So there's a bunch of different kind. Mhmm. They've got really good branding.
Adam:I'm a sucker for branding. Okay? Something has really consistent packaging and branding and it's cool looking, I'm probably gonna wanna buy it. Whatever it is.
Dax:Yeah. I think this sounds from nineteen o six. It sounds familiar.
Adam:Yeah. It's like they make, like, Chill, which is the one I take to be a
Dax:good father. Dude, there's one that says genius for brainpower. It doesn't work. It I don't know you take that harder. Have you tried
Adam:taking the whole bottle? Yeah. Yeah. I've tried all of them.
Dax:Yeah. Love for arousal.
Adam:Okay. Let's not talk about What a podcast. Okay.
Dax:Alright. Wait. Let me list out everything they have. They've got go for energy, bliss for happiness, genius for brainpower, love for arousal, chill for relaxation, midnight for sleep. And you've said you've tried all of them.
Dax:They're all basically the same though?
Adam:I can't find a couple of them in Missouri. I'm not gonna say which two.
Dax:Genius genius is illegal in in Missouri.
Adam:Oh my god.
Dax:It conflicts with the brand of Missouri.
Adam:I choked on an apple skin and I'm gonna die on a podcast.
Dax:Last episode, everyone.
Adam:Yeah. Maybe. I mean, maybe we might get canceled for something. I don't know.
Dax:Is itchy. Adam, this has, like, been okay to talk about for, like, years now.
Adam:Not in The Ozarks, Dax. Not in The Ozarks.
Dax:That's true.
Adam:Okay. Just do meth silently. You don't tell anybody. Oh, no. I feel like we need to take
Dax:a step back. Okay.
Adam:We we've come in a little hot. This is this podcast episode is a little high energy because I don't have anything in my system. I've not had anything. Like, this is just natural Adam. This is how it used to be all the time.
Adam:Do you remember did you notice a change?
Dax:I think so. I think I did. But Like Okay. Here's the messed up part though. Yeah.
Dax:You're not gonna like hearing this. If if
Adam:I'm you not won't do.
Dax:If you if you are asking me if I've noticed a change and I think about it, I'm like, yeah, I did notice a change. But to me, it feels like you were just less excited about everything or like Yeah. More lost. So
Adam:Yeah. Okay. I think that's what the effect mostly is. I I definitely felt less like it's a it's a two sided coin. It's, like, driven but also anxious.
Adam:I think they're like they come together in a package that is great for, like, work and aspirations. Like, being that way, the way I feel right now, I don't feel like I get I can have one without the other. Like, I can't be just my normal self. I'm so high strung, I think is the word. And I think it plays well in work.
Adam:I don't think it plays well in a family setting. Not like anyone was complaining. Like, my my family wasn't like, you're a horrible dad. You need to calm down. But just I don't like how, like, on edge and just like I call it OCPD.
Adam:I don't even know if that's actually what it is. But, like, just every little thing that happens in life, I'm, like, attuned to, and I'm just I'm jumping on. And, like, I can't just let them do stuff without that might not be safe. You know what I mean? Like, hovering and doing all that stuff.
Adam:And I feel like with certain substances, I'm less like that. I'm more just like, go with it. Whatever's going on, who cares?
Dax:Interesting. So when we were hanging out in in in Florida, I noticed a situation that that was really interesting where so your younger one was like sitting like
Adam:Archer.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah, Archie. He was sitting at the edge of the chair and he kind of slipped and as he like almost smashed his face onto the table Yeah. But he caught himself. And, and and Casey had like a crazy reaction.
Dax:Obviously, me too. Was like, oh my god. But then she like literally covered her mouth and like made herself not react.
Adam:Yeah. And I
Dax:was like, oh, that must be must be a very intentional thing. Because if you freak out because I think most most situations parents would freak out, they'd be like, oh my god, you gotta be careful, whatever. But then the kid kind of like, that's like bad long term for the kid. So she I I watched her like react but then, like, stifle it very quickly.
Adam:She is so she's my opposite. She is so good at it. She's so good at just letting them live life and, like and teaching them things and having them do things that I just don't even think kids are capable of. I I treat them like little tiny something else, not human. And she just, like, views them as little adults that are tiny and haven't learned everything.
Adam:And, like, they cook food. They do all kinds of stuff. And when I'm with them, it's like, I'm just way too eye strung. I don't know. Like I am right now at this very moment.
Adam:I forgot what it feels like.
Dax:So why did you stop? Or is it, like, randomly you stopped or was it intentional?
Adam:No. It was the staying up late. So I've still got apple in my I shouldn't eat while I'm doing a podcast. Like, we stayed up late. We woke up late.
Adam:I've been with the boys. I was late to come in here and record. And I just haven't like, I haven't consumed anything. So I wasn't planning on not.
Dax:Oh, I
Adam:see. It's just kinda how things worked out. But maybe this is better. Maybe you like the old me. Maybe you fell in love with the Adam of old.
Adam:You said I mean, I just saw you on Twitch. You said, you don't think I've coded for five weeks? I have. I've just not been doing anything publicly for other things that are going on, other reasons. Am I publicly melting down?
Adam:Is this a public meltdown? Oh, would that be cool if I did?
Dax:That'd be cool. It might be good for our numbers. I don't know.
Adam:Maybe. Yeah.
Dax:I mean, that thread that you have going definitely is not that definitely seems like a precursor to a public meltdown for sure.
Adam:Oh, really? That seems meltdown y? Oh, no.
Dax:No. It may seem it like, jokingly, but it is funny. Like, you're just talking to yourself and I'm just like, what the hell is he doing?
Adam:Oh, no. Well, because honestly, like, I love being able to tweet a bunch. But I would never just like tweet those things
Dax:To your main feed. Yeah.
Adam:Out into the ether. Yeah. But like doing it on that thread when I know like a 100 people will see it, it's just like, what are the thoughts in my head? I'm gonna dump them here and I don't care. So it's been nice.
Dax:What's funny is because I am somewhere up in that thread, I get notified for every single one. So I see every single one.
Adam:You gotta mute them, Vax.
Dax:But I wanna see I wanna see your public meltdown. Okay. I I see them and I just get the urge to be really mean. I just get the urge to reply being like shut the
Adam:fuck Yeah. You've I mean, you've it's not just urges. You've definitely said some things.
Dax:Well, it seems like people like it. The people like it.
Adam:It's like the same little crew that's here in Twitch. It's our friends.
Dax:I mean, have you made the Twitter have you done the Twitter circle thing?
Adam:Oh, I did that a long time ago. I forgot. I totally forgot. Yeah. No.
Adam:I have one. I don't know who's in it. I think I tweeted one time to my circle. Circles actually make a ton of sense. I I never thought, like, the idea that when I see someone tweet and it has a little green thing that, like, this is in the circle, I wanna respond because I want everyone to know I'm in their circle.
Adam:You know what I mean? So it's like, it's just immediate engagement bait. Do you feel that way? Am I exposing something that's
Dax:It definitely feels like special because I'm seeing it and not everyone's seeing it. So it feels like, oh, this person, you know, considers me someone they wanna take it to the next level.
Adam:But you don't you don't think like, oh, I gotta make sure everyone in the circle knows I'm in the circle. You don't think that? And reply?
Dax:Oh, like you
Adam:You gotta you gotta represent.
Dax:That's really funny. No. I don't think I've ever had that thought.
Adam:Okay. I'm terrible. I'm a bad human being. I'm sorry. No,
Dax:you're not. You're just needy.
Adam:I'm needy. It's weird to feel this way.
Dax:Like yourself?
Adam:Yeah. Like myself.
Dax:It's been one month?
Adam:Natural Adam. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Think it the Florida trip.
Adam:What did you do to me, Dax? What did you do when we met in Florida?
Dax:I didn't do anything. What did I do? What did you do? I think the sunburn changed you.
Adam:Maybe.
Dax:It's changed you, like in your cellular level, it just changed you, the radiation.
Adam:I actually had stuff I wanted to talk about today. And then you were like, let's just go ahead and hit record and then this is gonna be bad.
Dax:But No. This is good. I think I think talking about the massive amounts of drugs you do to just to Oh my god. Just to tolerate life is gonna be very, very interesting.
Adam:Here's the thing. Okay. This is what I wanna talk about, actually. It's not what I came in wanting to talk about, but now it's what I wanna talk about. Yeah.
Adam:Our society sucks. Like, it's just so dumb. Okay.
Dax:You need to get more specific.
Adam:I'm going to. I'm going to. I just got to finish chewing this piece of apple.
Dax:How much apple do you have?
Adam:Two whole pink lady apples. Am I annoying you?
Dax:That's so so many more apple
Adam:slices. Yeah. It's a lot. I haven't eaten anything yet, Dex. This is Also Hungry Animal.
Dax:Take some time
Adam:to to eat it. Like, wanna pause the podcast?
Dax:You can keep recording it
Adam:chewing bothering you?
Dax:No. I I I mean, is it bothering you? Like, because I feel like you're stopping to eat and you're not finishing your sentence.
Adam:I just thought it added to the storytelling. Like, you know Oh, I'm fine. If you're fine with it, I'm fine with it. I am fine with it. Do we wanna check with Zuko or Liz if they're fine with it?
Adam:Maybe it's be true
Dax:thing that you're always just gonna be eating something on
Adam:our Yeah.
Dax:Okay. That was like, in that Ocean's 11 movie, like, every scene that Brad Pitt was in, he was
Adam:eating something. He's always eating an apple. Did you know he's from Springfield? That's where I'm from. Me and Brad Pitt.
Adam:We got that in common. Okay. So here's why our society sucks. And I'm not gonna speak like, we're very connected now to an international group of people. Half the people we hang out with online are probably not from The US.
Adam:So I'm not gonna speak to, like, society universally, specifically in The US because it's all I know. It might apply to other places, but it's so dumb and broken, and there are so many things. Okay. So, like, we live in a neighborhood. And in this neighborhood, I would never tell a single neighbor that I've consumed THC.
Adam:I wouldn't tell them I've consumed anything unless it's coffee or I wouldn't even tell them I've consumed alcohol because it's just like there's just like this very dumb fake thing about our society. Oh, this sounds like a mental breakdown. It really does. I'm not having a mental breakdown. I promise.
Adam:I'm I've never felt better about life. Oh, this is what somebody who's having.
Dax:I'm not gonna say anything. I'm gonna keep letting you talk.
Adam:That's making it harder for me because I feel like you really think I'm breaking down. I'm not breaking down. I just think there's a lot of fake stuff. We water our lawns. We cut our lawns.
Adam:Like, why? This is very specific. But, like, if you really think about why do we have grass, it's it's it's an it's a picture of why I think this whole thing, the whole society is fundamentally broken.
Dax:Okay. So I think this touches on something that and we maybe have talked about before, but this is something that this is one of Liz's insights. I'm gonna steal yet again on yet another
Adam:Yes.
Dax:Another podcast episode. But she talks about how we have to decide every little detail, like, what kind of house do we live in, what kind of food do we eat, what's our marriage ceremony gonna look like, like every little little detail in America specifically, because we don't have like an ancient universal culture that just kind of automatically tells us this is what you do. And it's good to have a lot of choice but for some things it's like kind of overwhelming. That said, I do see this grass thing as kind of in that category. It's just like Oh.
Dax:The default so that most people don't have to think too hard about it. Right? Because I don't know if everyone wants to really figure out from scratch, like, what kind of yard am I gonna have?
Adam:Yeah. Okay. I see what you're saying. So, like, it's harder to have, like, a natural landscape. An alternative lawn is more work.
Adam:Well, no, it's not more work. It's more thinking.
Dax:Exactly. It's more thinking. And there's there's like you're already like deciding in a million places like what I I think people to different spectrums like are wanna be intentional about their life. But I think for a lot of people, they're really honest with themselves like, they would actually just kind of want like, we're just gonna do this because we've always done this for like a large portion of of it. And you can see that with the with the lawns and the yards and what people's houses look like and it does reflect the reality that people just kinda want things to be decent without them to think too hard about it.
Adam:Just not having to think too hard about, like, just having less decisions in life. Okay. I guess I get it. But it's a pretty expensive thing to, like like, not from, like, money standpoint. Just like we're dumping water on these stupid grass lawns and then cutting them.
Adam:Like, it's just a very like, it feels like we coulda had a better default. I don't know. We have a lot next we own a lot next door that I would love for you to build a house on, by the way, Dex, if you ever wanna
Dax:move to the Ozarks. Okay. Maybe.
Adam:Okay. Okay. Maybe. That lot has, like, all of this amazing natural, like, local vegetation on it that the butterflies love, that there's so many things flying around on it, and it looks so cool to me. Mhmm.
Adam:And it wants to be there. You don't have to water it. It just wants to grow there. Right?
Dax:Yeah.
Adam:Why can't we just have that all around our houses? I'm sorry. I'm getting way too into the grass thing.
Dax:No. I mean, that's a I don't know the answer. I'm just not well educated on this. So, and it's funny. I was making fun of me in the chat because I don't I have fake grass.
Dax:Right? Because my again
Adam:You have fake grass?
Dax:I need to I need to qualify this for everyone listening. I did not choose to put in fake grass. So my front and backyard entirely covered in turf grass. Not like sports turf, so it's not like grainy. It's just like, but guess what?
Dax:Doesn't need to be watered, Adam. So
Adam:I mean, that's true. That's better than what I have.
Dax:So it, so I thought I would hate it because it looks like see, it's just so not natural. But it's always clean. We can always just lie down in it and it's always just like it kinda feels like my my house is like three times as big because I can just kinda like do whatever I want there. So for the dog, like he like pees on it and poops on stuff, but it's not killing patches in in the yard and everything.
Adam:Okay. I get but I guess it drains like normal grass? Would just
Dax:keep it. Like, if we buy this house, I don't know if I would keep the fake grass, but I will say it's it's I thought it would just overall suck, but it is kind of like kinda interesting. It's kinda like you have like a little like play area where you can just kinda do whatever and it's always clean and there's no dirt.
Adam:I mean, I yeah. As someone who doesn't like dirt and most things outside, I see the appeal. But it just feels like the it's exactly my point that, like, most of American society is fake, and it drives me nuts. You're you're putting a very positive spin on it. So I I guess I'm feeling a little bad.
Adam:Like, I'm coming in with conspiracy theories here and you're like, actually, it's just nice to not think about these things.
Dax:No. Well, okay. But I'll, like, challenge you in a few other ways. Right? So, ignoring the grass part, if you look at all the trees in my house, people love it.
Dax:Like, it's like, wow, like it looks really good, so natural. We have all kinds of different trees. They're like really overgrown, like really covering everything. It looks very natural. A 100% of the trees from Asia.
Dax:Not Florida trees at all. Every single tree in my in my yard is from Asia. So in a lot of ways, can say that's not natural.
Adam:And so are you. I mean
Dax:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everyone will look at that and be like, that's like a very natural yard besides the fake grass. Yeah. But it's not really.
Dax:It's like very curated and and intentional. Everyone in my my whole neighborhood is like this. Like, there's tons of trees everywhere like extremely overgrown like trees are like blanketing like over the streets and it's really it's it's why I moved there because it's such a nice nice feeling and we feel like we're living in such harmony with everything. But technically, don't know if any of those trees are actually native to Florida because Florida native stuff is like, it can look cool but just not as cool as like the Asian stuff.
Adam:Does that bolster your point or mine?
Dax:I I think it's I think the idea is like, there's like the appeal to nature fallacy which is like anything that is natural is good. It's not natural is bad. But there's a question of like what actually is natural. You guys have a bunch of invasive stuff you were talking about. I'm sure you guys have invasive trees that you're dealing with and stuff like that.
Adam:Oh, Sure.
Dax:Yeah. That technically is natural but also not natural because humans introduce it. I don't know. At this point, it's hard to say what's what. But I do agree with yeah.
Dax:Like lawns are kinda ugly to me just like from a purely aesthetic thing. Like I like a flat lawn is just not super interesting.
Adam:So much less interesting than like any other ground cover, really.
Dax:Yeah. Exactly. And and even if we did get along, like Liz has this very specific again, it's all about like being intentional. She's really into the specific grass that grows in Cuba and like that's the type of lawn she would have. It doesn't look like a typical American lawn.
Dax:It's like a little bit more wild. Yeah. But again, like, you know, she's she's picking that because she like was born there and is familiar with it and just kind of default there and she'd like to have the default here. Yeah. But again, I don't know why everyone has lawns.
Dax:I don't know if people genuinely like them or not.
Adam:Okay. I've I've made a mistake and I've made this conversation about literally about lawns and I didn't mean to. Do you feel like how much of your time do you feel like you spend just being a fake, like, facade of a human being None. Interacting with people? None?
Adam:Zero? Do you ever interact with people in person that you don't know?
Dax:All the time. Okay. So none is an overstatement. As my life has gone on, it's gotten close to zero. But it's not always zero.
Adam:Yeah. Because of the Internet. Like, we can be connected to people we actually can be ourselves with on the Internet more.
Dax:Well, that's not really my problem. That's your problem. Oh, Me neither. No.
Adam:Me either. You
Dax:I'm saying you live in the Ozarks, you might not have a lot people around you that are relatable, but I live in a place where yeah. Live in a place where
Adam:I keep talking over you. Now I kinda I just wanna keep doing it. Sorry. I'm just gonna shut up. Is gonna hate us so much.
Dax:I live in a place where not I I I still live like kind of a weird way, I don't like fully relate to most people, but it's at least I don't know. It's not like it's some spectrum. Right? And I get closer to people, I can be more myself. So, but do you feel like around you, you're you're, like, very constrained?
Adam:Yeah. Maybe this is not a American problem. Maybe this is more a Midwest problem. I feel like a lot of things I'm railing on are probably more pervasive in the Midwest. Mhmm.
Adam:Even lawns. Like, you live in a city, you don't have that realization that we're all just, like, watering our stupid grass. I don't know. Yeah. It feels very fake here.
Adam:Yeah. I don't know. That's dumb. I no. I don't even wanna say that.
Adam:It's not that it's fake here. Everyone wants to be like, ugh, I live in a terrible place. It's the worst and everyone sucks. That's not that's not true. Like, it's a great it's whatever.
Adam:I have nothing to say. I don't know.
Dax:Well, you started by saying your society is terrible and broken. Like, what
Adam:I think yeah. I think that's more a reflection of how I'm feeling right now than actual society.
Dax:But is that like Okay. You gave one example of lawns and I see I can, like, extract to the point I can, like, tie those together in some way.
Adam:Oh, oh, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's a bigger point.
Adam:This is the thing I actually wanna come in talking about, which is and this is, again, probably more of a Midwest thing, a little more socially conservative. Mhmm. And I'm not gonna, like, get into I'm not gonna say a lot of things I would say if why wouldn't I, though? Why wouldn't I just say what I wanna say? Because I don't know who listens to this, and I don't want people just get so offended anyway.
Adam:But is that a thing you can say that people get offended? Is that like am I aligning with some certain group of people by being like, everyone gets offended? Because I don't really actually believe that. I just think, like, I don't want people to feel bad, so I'm not gonna say things I think will make people feel bad. But all that said, do you regret doing this podcast with me, Like, I mean, not today.
Adam:I mean, like, the 30 episodes we've done. I I gotta finish my thought. I don't finish anything. So here's the thing. In this area, in particular, it's a lot of, like, monoculture, the same household story where the mom takes care of your kids, the dad goes to work, and then everyone's unhappy because the mom never signed up to just, like, do everything for everyone at all times.
Adam:That's not how she envisioned her life. And this is not Kate. I'm not talking about my wife. I'm just saying, like, generally speaking, like, we went to Target yesterday and just my wife and I on a date because we didn't even go in Target. We were in the parking lot.
Adam:We just we literally just wanna be alone in the car, and so we ended up in the parking lot at Target. So I got to watch a lot of cars come in. All women in SUVs, presumably mothers, their kids are at school or whatever, and we're all unhappy. Everyone hates it, and everyone just acts like this is fine. And especially in this area, there are, like, certain societal forces and belief systems that sort of reinforce this is how things should be, but there's not enough help.
Adam:We don't have enough help. People raising families, just generally speaking in The US, we all pretend like we should all just go to work and be productive and, like, whatever. But, like, families, specifically, like, young families with young children, there's just not enough help. And it's not the way people raised kids two hundred years ago. Just sure of it.
Adam:And I it feels very unnatural. It feels like most people are struggling with mental health parents with young children, and we all just kinda, like, accept it, and this is how things should be. And I don't know. It just sucks.
Dax:Yeah. No. I I definitely I definitely hear that. And I think for me, I always try to blend in like, okay, we live in a modern time and that we're fortunate in lot of ways or we're free to choose a lot of things. But I also don't wanna like toss away like stuff that has worked for a long time.
Dax:It's like, it's interesting to blend those together. I think you said about people didn't raise kids like this, yeah, because you used to have like intergenerational households where like Yeah. The grandparents lived with the parents and lived with the kids. Yeah. And it's like, there's like four adults per kid and it's like a very different
Adam:Right.
Dax:Type of situation.
Adam:Very different.
Dax:Yeah. So a lot of our friends are going kinda went through the same thing where they when we lived in New York, they all, you know, had kids there, like thousands of miles away from any family member. Also, like in like New York City, which is one of the hardest places to live in the country in terms of like everything being inconvenient. And it was just so so so so hard and it felt like that like we we saw that and we were like, there's no way. Like having kids seems hard on its own and then like then adding the additional layer of doing it entirely alone in like a big city.
Dax:So that's that's why it's one of the big reasons we moved. You know, we wanted to have kids, we wanted like a more traditional setup. And I think it's a little bit easier for us because culturally, neither me or Liz are in a culture that has moved super far away from the traditional way of living.
Adam:You still have that close family thing going on.
Dax:Yeah. It's not like everyone lives literally lives together, but it's like everyone kinda Support
Adam:each other.
Dax:Yeah. It's like everyone lives really close and everyone has like an extra room that some family members are are like temporarily staying in for six months. So it's just always like Yeah. It's like a very different thing and everyone's like very well supported. And we'll see how it actually plays out when we have kids like, there obviously are changes with with our generation but Yeah.
Dax:Yeah, like doing all that alone just seems impossible while also like having, like, ambitious careers for both me and Liz. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how people how people do it. I don't I don't really know why people are choosing that.
Dax:Do they not realize or are they explicitly, like, trying to get away from their family?
Adam:Yeah. I don't know. Like, I feel like the way things are set up, it it didn't feel like we chose this path, but you just kind of by default end up in this situation where you feel very alone. Like, you feel like you're kind of on your own. And I know some people have their parents right next door.
Adam:My parents are moving next door. Mhmm. Like, they're building a house and will be moving in in the next few months. That'll help. But I feel like we we should have had that for the last eight years.
Adam:Like, you just not having I think a lot of people make it because they send their kids to school. We just we've chosen the hard path for, like, everything in life, and it's very hard to, like, justify making it easier on ourselves to then I don't know. I just I'll never send my kid to public school, that's a very privileged thing to say. But, like, I'm just not gonna do it. I went to public school, and it turned out fine.
Adam:But, like, okay, I'm coming off of it. I might need to take some DHT or something. It's all too much. This is too much. I wanna see
Dax:why this is a little more if you'd like if you're off it for, like, a week, like, where do you end up?
Adam:I mean, this is how I used to be. This is the Adam that you got to know.
Dax:Yeah. Maybe there's, like, a like, an effect where it's gonna go even crazier because you had it, like, subdued for a month, you know?
Adam:Maybe. I I do feel more on edge than I did before because it's like coming off of it. I I think this is how probably I used to feel all the time. I'm sorry. This this episode went a lot of different places, Stax.
Adam:I feel like not in a good way.
Dax:But the thing I always say about where I live, this the city is that I just like the tension between the two extremes. It's not just one extreme. It's like both extremes I think are dumb, but there's tension there's like enough tension on both sides that we land somewhere like not entirely stupid.
Adam:Mhmm.
Dax:So, yeah, found that that's that's pretty good. Like, most days I've been in have been like way too extreme on one side. We have a you know how it's always people that are like, if this person gets elected, I'm gonna I'm gonna move. I'm gonna leave America. So we have so my friend has, like, a family friend.
Dax:It's his dad's friend. His dad's friend was, like, if Obama gets elected, I'm gonna leave the country. And Obama got elected and he literally left to, like Oh, yeah. That's right. Or something and he's he's just been there and, like, somehow it's like he's, like, been very successful.
Dax:Like, he he opens up some business or something. He's, like, very rich there and he's completely fine. So he did he did the one person that literally left because someone got elected.
Adam:That's awesome. Yeah. The so many has put that, like, success story out there so that people the it's always the people come out and, we're leaving, and then the people come out and, okay. Leave. And then the people are, like, you're not actually leaving.
Adam:Now we have actual case of someone left. We need to put it on the wall. It's just so dumb. It's just that there's no logic like this podcast episode. There's no there's no mellow.
Adam:Well, you've been the mellow. You've been you've been helping keep this together, Dax. I appreciate you. Thank you.
Dax:And look, didn't even need the THC.
Adam:You didn't even need the THC. You're just naturally like this, I don't
Dax:know. I don't know. I with with all this stuff, it's just like it's so complicated. Like America is so different than any other country. It's like, I don't think anyone really knows.
Dax:I don't know what to do about any of it. Like it doesn't I'm just trying
Adam:to like find a
Dax:way to exist.
Adam:Feel like you probably you're very like measured about everything. I feel like you probably disagree with me really hard right now. You're just you're you think I'm fragile in this current state, and you're not saying the things you wanna say. Well, tell me what you really think. Like, am I going all anti American and, like, dumb?
Adam:Should I stop?
Dax:I don't think you're fragile. I understand these things when they show up. It's, really scary and, it, like, really gets in your head. And it gets in my head too and, like, there'll be days where I think about it and I, like, freak out. But that is that is that is real and I think we need to figure something out.
Dax:I don't know what it is. I'm sure we can be doing more than we're currently doing. I'm sure there's a lot of, like, corrupt forces that, like, prevent things from going to a more measured place. Simultaneously, there's just like I don't know. There just is like a history and a culture and like that we have in America and it's like pretty different from everywhere else.
Dax:Like like with everything, just comes down to like some people there's like a list of things to care about and for some people, the thing that they will never compromise on is global warming. Think it's other people, it's like civil rights for other people. It's like they'll drop everything before they drop, you know, having their guns, etcetera.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah.
Dax:So, yeah, I don't I don't really know. It's just we live in, like, a really extremely diverse complex world. I just try to fall back to I want the laws in my city to reflect myself. I don't give a shit what's going on in Missouri, I don't give a shit what's happening on in California. Again, it's hard for me because again, I live in Florida so which is which can be more extreme than I want.
Dax:But like I said, in Miami, the the tension on both sides is good.
Adam:Maybe we shouldn't maybe we should just record all day, Dax. Maybe we should just not stop this episode. I feel like maybe eventually we'll get somewhere the look on your face. You were like
Dax:No. That I actually thought it a good idea. I don't know how it came across, but I
Adam:was like It came across
Dax:as I like a was thinking about how much editing work it is. So we record for seven hours and reduce it down to thirty minutes.
Adam:This this episode really could just be the grass episode because we started talking about THC, then we talked about lawns. It's grass. You see that? Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Nice. Wow.
Adam:I know. It's funny how that works. It almost seems like we plan it sometimes, but we really don't.
Dax:Definitely do not plan it.
Adam:It's it's everything's very complicated, and it's very hard to not get into a polarized position. I feel like I get polarized on everything I think about for more than ten seconds. Maybe that's my personality. Maybe that's not everybody's problem. But I don't know.
Adam:I look around the Internet. It seems like it's everybody's problem.
Dax:That's largely that's largely, like, the default state. Yeah.
Adam:But why do you seem so measured? Why do I just I feel like a maniac right now, the way I'm coming off compared to you. When I listen to you talk and I listen to myself, I'm like, what's wrong? Why am I broken?
Dax:I don't know. I think it's like I don't even I can't I can't even I don't know. I don't I don't know. I think I get enjoyment. I get like the thing that overpowers everything is I like really feeling like I have landed in a good place.
Dax:And that's kind of what like
Adam:Like you've landed in a good place. Could you explain that to me?
Dax:Like with every topic, I'm like, okay, like I feel like I'm my like perspective on it, my like wherever I landed on how I think about it is like, you know, it's it's like not crazy is good. Like, I I get it. I'm not afraid of it. Like, I you know, I I I never wanna feel like I'm, like, too extreme. Yeah.
Dax:And that kinda overpowers everything. I don't know.
Adam:I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, Dex. I don't know.
Dax:Alright. Next topic, immigration.
Adam:Immigration. Let's go. I don't know anything about immigration. Tell me. What do you know?
Adam:We're not actually you're joking. Right?
Dax:Well, I actually do have thoughts on it.
Adam:Please do. We might as well get them all out in one. Let's just this is the purge. This is the purge of, like, all political takes, all takes that we kinda just wanna get out there in the world and like we can't be judged because it's the purge.
Dax:So this is the one topic that draws out a good amount of like not passion, but I would say this is one thing where I'm just like, I feel like as amount of frustration with.
Adam:Oh, are you gonna like grab your microphone like I did earlier? You're get that that upset? Please do.
Dax:I don't if I'll go that far, but
Adam:Balance us out here.
Dax:Okay. Here's how I feel. We live in a very very competitive world, not just The US, like the whole world, right? We're competing as a country with all these other countries. A lot them are catching up to us in a bunch of different ways.
Dax:We're always looking for ways to stay ahead, and to like, you know, try to create create the world that we want. And certain countries have certain advantages and other countries just don't have certain advantages. We have one of the most amazing advantages that no other country has and we refuse to take advantage of it. America exports like a shit ton of culture, right? Mhmm.
Dax:People know our movies, people know our music, people know our lifestyles, people know like all over the world, people know it. Uh-huh. And it maybe doesn't click for everyone, but there are a large number of people that see that and they're like, I would love to have that. I love to be in the country where all this culture that I see, you know, that I'm into, I don't I wanna be there. There's so many people from all over the world that would just love for a chance to come here.
Dax:And for some reason, we don't have a policy of being like, yeah, the best people from every country get to come here. Like, if you can So in my opinion, like, make immigration so complicated and hard. I know so many people that are, like, offered amazing jobs here where if they came here and they got that job, they would be making a lot of money, they'd be paying a lot of taxes. Just a very talented person that someone in America is like, we need this person here to make our company more productive. And we make it so so difficult.
Dax:Like, it's such a complex process. It ends up being sheer chance like a lottery involved in it. And this is like our craziest advantage that all our like, quote unquote, like like our frenemy countries or like our enemy countries that we're trying to compete with. Their citizens would just rather live here. They would just rather come here and do the work that they're doing making their country.
Dax:They would do they could just do it for us. Yeah. And historically, we've just had we've had and if you look at like some of the greatest things that America has done, it's been through people that have come over in this way, right? Mhmm. And that's like an unstoppable advantage.
Dax:And I'm like, why do we continue to like squander it? Like, we overcomplicate it. We're like, well, that job that this foreign person would take, like, that could have gone to an American person. But if you really look at the number of open roles at every company, they just have a shit ton of open roles that they're never gonna fill because it's not like they would have filled it with an American citizen.
Adam:They Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Just aren't gonna fill it at all. And that's like a limiter on this a limiter of so many things. Like, the company presumably puts that job out because if someone fills that and they pay $200,000 for that person, they're they might make a million dollars off of that person being there. So it's all this like untapped wealth and opportunity that these companies aren't able to take advantage of.
Dax:So the whole immigration thing, I'm like, this is like the answer to so many of our problems. But we like just really, really, really overcomplicate and we do this other really stupid thing where we let people come here, on a student visa. We're like, okay, you can come study at our universities And then we make it really hard for them to then turn that into like a job that way they can stay here. But people literally come here and get educated, then leave and go back to their country and we just don't get the ROI. It's just like, it's so stupid and it seems such an obvious one and I don't think this is unpopular.
Dax:I don't think this is a thing that like, I think a lot of people are like, yeah, that's fine. Like, I think there maybe are select people groups of people that don't like it, but I think I wouldn't be surprised if this was like in the majority of things that people were down for.
Adam:Could you state the solution you might have already said it, but is the idea just like you, like, let people in based on merit, basically? Like, if they're good at stuff, they get in first. Is that the idea?
Dax:I don't know what the exact roles will be because it it probably is a little bit complicated. But from a first principle point of view, if someone can if there's a company here that is like, I'm willing to pay this person x amount of money and it's like over a certain threshold, that's just a net benefit for everyone. We're gonna get tax revenue from that as a government, the the company's gonna make money. So I feel like if you can secure a job here, it should be a pretty smooth process. And of course, like we need to have a process for things outside of that like we currently have, but just that specific situation, we should allow for because there are Yeah.
Dax:And of course people are I mean, in chat are saying, well, not everyone wants to go to Of course, not everyone wants to come here. But there are compared to every country in the world, we do have that advantage still. We're losing it a little bit because we're not taking advantage of it. But it it's still gonna continue to be a force that that exists and we should maximize it while we can.
Adam:That all makes sense to me. I've never I've never not put a thought to immigration. I don't know if it's because I live in the geographic center of the continent, and we don't get a lot of immigration around here. I just literally have no thoughts. So I'm sorry I can't be more of a sounding board.
Adam:You were such a good sounding board when I was ranting about guns, and now I'm just like, cool. It sounds great. I'm I'm on board. Let's bring in the best people.
Dax:No. It's just my little see, that's my point. It's like, it's so simple and it's like, I think most people would be like, yeah, that makes sense. Like, there's not much to much to talk about. But, yeah, I think we all know.
Dax:Like, I know people that I know this guy that I mean, I I didn't go to college and I don't put I don't put a lot of weight in degrees but you know, he technically had, probably equivalent of like a PhD plus a master's in America and he was from France. Yeah. Like infinite job offers. Like every company wanted to hire him. Every company wanted to hire him.
Dax:He actually came here illegally in a way or he overstayed his visa technically and the company was working, I was like paying him under the table. But like, would have hired him, like just really smart dude, really capable. He ended up marrying his roommates. His roommate did him a favor and she married him. They both had like like their real partners and they did a fake marriage and then after two years they got divorced.
Adam:But he had to do all these stupid workarounds.
Dax:Yeah, these stupid things. And he hustled and figured it out which is all again, which is the point. Like he's willing to do all this really crazy shit just to bring his talents here. Right? Yeah.
Dax:I was like, this is so dumb that that was his process. I know I know a lot of people to be honest that have been through a similar process and it's it's just bizarre.
Adam:It is bizarre. Yeah. I don't I don't have thoughts on immigration so much, but I it just sounds like one of those things that we would be bad at. Just like, I don't know, a lot of the decisions we make not that I think that's corruption. It's just like incompetence.
Adam:Yeah. Like, a lot of elderly people running the government. Just like things that seem like common sense to me just don't seem to be like common sense. I don't know.
Dax:I mean, if you look at every, like, big company that was founded, every, like, great American company, like, lot like, a large percentage of them was from these people that managed to get in. Someone's asking why can they do h one b. The problem with the h one b is that, the last step is random. So your company can sponsor you, do everything, but there's a fixed number and it's a lottery once you get past the initial filters. So it's it's it's like a like one third of people every year make it through.
Dax:Oh, you know what country is not like this? Canada. So Canada literally is doing almost everything what I said. They let like any competent person in, they just let them in. It's like super easy to immigrate to Canada.
Dax:Yeah. That's why you look at Canadian cities, they're like really diverse. And a lot of them eventually end up coming in to America through Canada. It's like a two step process. But yeah, Canada I mean, like Toronto is like taxing is like growing like crazy.
Dax:Like, there's just a lot of cool stuff happening there because of this.
Adam:And they've got the culture. I mean, maple syrup, mounties. What are they called? The the people with the hats that will ride the horses, like policemen. Yeah.
Adam:They got they got all kinds of culture in Canada. So we better watch out or people are gonna be flooding into Canada. People could come to America.
Dax:Yeah. Well, they still need our military, but, you know
Adam:Do we wanna talk about the military? Okay. Sorry. I just mean, if you we
Dax:can if you wanna if you wanna talk about it.
Adam:I Do you feel like we do way too much in the world?
Dax:Again, like with everything, I land somewhere kind of in
Adam:the It's complex. Yeah. It's common.
Dax:Yeah. Like, I like really buy into this theory of the value of our dollar directly tied to our military. So
Adam:Wait, what? What's that theory? I don't know that theory. I'm not
Dax:gonna be able explain this because I don't understand it well enough to explain it well, but I'll try. We effectively, like, secure all the trade routes in the world. Right? All global trade, like, western global trade, like, like, our military secures it. That's why we're that's why
Adam:we're literally everywhere. Oh, interesting.
Dax:Yeah. We're literally everywhere.
Adam:I wouldn't know that.
Dax:Yeah. And
Adam:So there's a reason that we're everywhere. It's not
Dax:just And For funds. In exchange for this, the world operates on dollars. So that creates a base level demand for dollars. Again, that's another crazy crazy advantage we have, right? All like, energy trade, all oil trade is done with dollars.
Dax:It creates this like global base level demand for it, which lets us do crazy things like, you know, print money and and invest it because there's like enough demand to support support that. So Mhmm. Yes, we spend a lot in the military. Probably too much. I imagine it is too much because it is a government.
Dax:The government is not efficient. I'm sure we're spending too much about a multiple for the results we're getting. But I do think people simplify it in that like, oh, we're not getting anything for it. But
Adam:Yeah. And I don't believe that.
Dax:There is a there is like an ROI loop that's coming back just from us controlling it really.
Adam:When you say securing the trade route, is that like from pirates or from like other nations? Like, what?
Dax:No. It's it's more like is, like, a clear history of this and I and I don't I I I need to read up on it so I can, like, articulate this better. I read it once and it made a lot of sense and I and I forgot. But this was, like, after World War two, like, all, like, the things that happened, where like all the other com countries were pretty much their economies were broken, so they always pegged the US dollar, the US dollar was supposed to be pegged to gold and then a bunch of stuff happened with that. Again, I I don't remember, so I'm just gonna sound like an idiot trying to explain it but, effectively, like when like the West came into being, which is like just our allies and like entirely what we think of as the West.
Dax:It's all secured by the US military, primarily. So Okay. When I say literally when I say securing trade routes, I don't mean, like, from pirates, I just mean, in general, like, we're all allied under this, like, military, agreements effectively. Okay. And that's what enables us to trade with each other and and work with each other and we're all we're all better.
Adam:I can't believe I've never heard any of this. This seems like important information.
Dax:Yeah. I wish I knew it better. I wish I knew it better.
Adam:At least you knew something. Okay. I kinda wanna talk about pirates, but I feel like we should end the episode.
Dax:Wanna talk about pirates?
Adam:Like, pirates are real. Right? Like, they're a real thing that like, are those people that do they, like, live amongst us? Do they come into society or do they just live on the boat?
Dax:They live amongst us. What
Adam:the hell? Not me because I'm inland. But, like, are pirates normal people? Do they speak languages we speak? Are they, like, born on the ship and they're raised a pirate and they're totally different from us?
Dax:No. No. What? Okay.
Adam:There aren't
Dax:pirates of the Caribbean pirates out there.
Adam:No. Yeah. Yeah. I knew they didn't wear the whole costume with the parrot and the whole thing. I knew that.
Adam:But, like, how different are they from us? Are they like the people who live in Antarctica? No. In the cold places. You're not supposed to call them Eskimos.
Adam:What are they called?
Dax:Inuits?
Adam:Inuits. Thank you.
Dax:Man, I'm so handsome.
Adam:Why am I such an inventive okay. Go ahead.
Dax:Piracy is just an act of desperation. There's some people that are desperate enough to risk their lives to go out on a little boat to attack a big boat. So they're just people in places that are like, you know, that are poorer or, like, you know, have more desperation. So my my own I don't know anything about this, but I only know about the the Captain Phillips stuff and those, like, the stuff that happens off of the coast of Africa, like in Somalia and stuff. So Okay.
Adam:So they are just people who, like, they they live in the cities and then they get on a boat and they go out and steal stuff at other boats. Yeah. Okay. It's
Dax:crazy to me that they do that. But
Adam:No. No. It's crazy. Yeah. I just didn't know if it was like a whole population of people that had very different, like, I don't know.
Dax:But what is crazy is historically what you're describing was a thing, right? Like like Tortuga was like a real place. I don't know where it is, but like, there were like pirate cities where like I I I gotta read more into this because Pirate City? Because back when piracy was like a bigger thing, like the images that we have of it.
Adam:Some would say it's still a pretty bad problem, Dex. Especially when you talk about pirating like movies and
Dax:TV shows and software. Naval. Naval. Naval. Naval.
Dax:Naval. Naval. Naval piracy. Naval piracy. Ocean based piracy.
Dax:But it was enough of a thing where they were like pirate cities or like that's where the pirates would dock and hang out. That's really crazy.
Adam:I gotta read about this. That sounds very fascinating. Tortuga, you
Dax:said? I don't know. That sounds good. That sounds right.
Adam:Just pulled that off the gnome. You read you've read 10 books in your life and you know these kind of words? Like, where where are getting this information?
Dax:Tortuga. That sounds familiar. Right?
Adam:Tortuga. No. It doesn't at all. That's why when you said it, my face went Tortuga.
Dax:Tortuga. Pirate City. Oh my god.
Adam:It's a Pokemon. It's in Haiti.
Dax:Okay. It's in Oh,
Adam:it's actually a thing. Okay.
Dax:Yeah. It's in Haiti. Major center and haven of Caribbean piracy. Look at that. Wow.
Dax:I didn't make it up.
Adam:You didn't make it up. Tortuga. I'm just so curious when that word graced Dax's ears and he retained it.
Dax:Yeah. I mean, it's it's I think it's a nice name. Tort does it mean turtle or tortoise? Mean You're
Adam:a kid. You could name your kid Tortuga.
Dax:Throwing that out there.
Adam:Alright. I really have to pee. So we do have to get off here. I don't like that to be our sign off that I always had to pee at the end. I don't like it.
Dax:I like it. I think it's funny.
Adam:But it's us. I mean, it's just the reality that I drink a lot and I have
Dax:to pee. You drink a lot. And that's the source of all your problems. You drink a lot.
Adam:I don't drink a lot. I don't drink alcohol. I just do weed, man.
Dax:Okay. Just cool. So we're gonna end this podcast. I have no idea what the hell this is gonna turn into.
Adam:I don't either. Chris, it's up to you. If this is one episode, if it's two, three, whatever you think. If it's none, if we just need to throw this one in the trash and it was a good time, we all got to feel a little better at the end, we feel better. Right?
Adam:Should I become some villain and you can be the person everyone identifies with and I'm like this jerk? I'll do it. I don't care. I have nothing else really going for me on the Internet. I'll just become some, like, figure that people hate.
Adam:And they're like, that Adam, oh my god. I just wanna punch him in the face. I could be that guy.
Dax:Because you don't care.
Adam:I really don't care. At this point, I'm considering just going off the Internet. You've seen my farewell to the Internet video. I'm considering it. I'm considering literally just disappearing.
Dax:That's all the drugs talking.
Adam:It's not the drugs.
Dax:How do we know?
Adam:I don't do drugs. That sounds so like okay. Well I mean, like, kind of drugs? Pharmaceutical drugs? Lots of people do those.
Adam:We don't talk about that.
Dax:Oh, wow. Get into that stuff. Big pharma.
Adam:I should okay. Listen. I should just become a villain. I should become this person people hate. You'll get so much from it.
Adam:I can at least have a purpose on the Internet. I think we got something here. I'll just I'll go against everything. Not, like, consistently, not like some group's gonna hate me. They'll all hate me because I'll say something they all hate.
Adam:How about that? I feel like you're not taking me seriously. I'm not joking right now.
Dax:I I don't okay. This may be offensive, but I don't think you you have it. I don't think you have what it takes to do that.
Adam:What do you mean?
Dax:It's not a mean thing. It's like, I just don't see you as the villain character, really.
Adam:That'll make it so much more interesting that I don't seem like I should be a villain, but you just hate me. Not a villain, but just like a guy who says things inflammatory and everybody's like in a ruckus and ruckus? Is that a word? In a ruckus? In a like, everybody's in a tizzy?
Adam:In a tizzy word? Oh my god. What race are you again? I forgot. What do you I'm white.
Adam:I don't know. In a tizzy. Is that a is that a race?
Dax:Is white
Adam:a race?
Dax:Got some very white shit. Yeah.
Adam:Oh, how could I say something really offensive here? Nah. I can't think of anything. I gotta do this though. I feel like some people got angry after this episode if they hear it, if it
Dax:ever makes light of day.
Adam:I gotta lean into it because I really need some kind of purpose on the Internet. I have lots of purposes in actual life. But, like, on the Internet, I don't know. I hate when you do that, Dax. Why do you do that?
Adam:Why do you just sit there and stare at me? I hate it so much. Okay. Goodbye. I gotta pee.
Adam:I'm floating. Bye.
Dax:Bye.
