Where Did Dax Move, Adam Learns About Grills, and a Chat with Ken Wheeler (Part 1)
Is gonna be a really special episode because, like always, we have Adam, who is my whitest white friend, and we have Ken, who is my least white white friend. And he's gonna be
Ken:was colliding
Dax:on this episode. That was a good one.
Ken:There you go. You said that. Really are so fucking white. It's unbelievable. You know,
Dax:he's he's literally left never left Missouri.
Adam:I've what? I've left No. Ken has seen me. Atlanta.
Ken:Yeah. Went to Atlanta. I went to Atlanta. I went to
Adam:hang out with Ken somewhere. Atlanta.
Ken:What was
Dax:that like?
Ken:Did you actually go? No. No. No. I was trying to figure out if you I don't think Yeah.
Adam:Yeah. I went.
Ken:Come for the shoot
Adam:Rinder? Wait. What? Oh, no. I didn't go to everything.
Adam:I didn't go to all the extracurricular activities. Okay.
Ken:Even if you did, I wouldn't have remembered it. Yeah.
Dax:That was terrifying.
Ken:I have was completely out of control. It was fucking awesome.
Dax:Everyone says that about about render. It gets bigger every year.
Ken:That's what she said. Oh, not my fucking stomach.
Dax:Hello?
Adam:Hey there.
Dax:How do I sound? Different. Does it sound lower or
Adam:Talk again. I might just had it turned up too loud.
Dax:I think more echo, probably. Right?
Adam:Yeah. More echo. Yeah. Oh, you moved.
Ken:I can't even tell.
Adam:That's crazy.
Dax:It looks exactly the same. Right?
Adam:It really does. That's so funny.
Dax:It kinda sucks that it's so much effort to do this. Like, I had so much shit mounted on the wall. I had to, like, unscrew it, move it over, remeasure stuff, rescrew stuff. You put in all that work, and then Yeah. There's no difference.
Dax:It's
Adam:You can't tell the difference. Yeah. What's why is the audio echoey? Just haven't got everything on the walls yet or something?
Dax:I have no clue. I don't know what I'm missing in this room that was absorbing the echo. I think it's a curtains. I didn't put the curtains on.
Adam:Could be it.
Dax:This side. But, yeah, I can't tell. I might need to get I had a rug before, but I got rid of that a while ago. I might need to get a rug. Do you have any soundproofing?
Adam:My entire walls are covered in acoustic panels. You can see one of them over my shoulder.
Dax:Yeah. It's so I like my brain refuses to believe that they do it.
Adam:Oh, man. They they do I
Dax:just can't believe it.
Ken:Like,
Adam:I before, this room was awful. And now you can't like, if I'm in my office and my door's open, people can't hear me, like, when I'm yelling across the house trying to yell out from my office. You just can't even hear like, it absorbs all the sound. It's crazy.
Dax:Do you think, so I have this one wall here. Do you think if I just put thumb here, it would, like, make a difference?
Adam:I'm sure it would. I mean, every every little bit would probably make a difference. I don't know the Yeah.
Dax:I might do that.
Adam:I just went with the shotgun approach, and I covered all the walls. I could have gone less if I were smart and knew how sound bounces around. I think you can, like, strategically place them. It has to do with where you're facing when you're speaking, I guess.
Dax:Yeah. Which I'm kinda leaned towards as well, so I think it would make sense. But I don't know. Yeah. I don't know why it would sound any different to the exact it must be the curtains.
Dax:I like these big blackout curtains that probably did a lot.
Adam:It doesn't sound bad. Just different. Just a little bit different. It's the only sign that you've moved.
Dax:It's crazy.
Adam:I guess we're not gonna stream. Right?
Dax:Well, I can't because my this
Adam:is a worse thing
Dax:for all of this because I, so, of course okay. Listen to this process. I went on my Xfinity because I use Xfinity for internet. I went on the app last week, scheduled my move. They were like, guess what?
Dax:You don't need a technician. You can just move your equipment yourself, and it's all gonna work. And I'm like, that's convenient. So then yesterday, I did that, and I plugged it in. And, of course, nothing worked.
Dax:My account was in some weird state that it got, like, confused. It thought I didn't have service. But first, I thought it was an issue on their end. Got that fixed. Still not working.
Dax:To the okay. We had to send a technician. Technician comes out today. He goes to the box on the right, and he's like there's, like, no signal coming to this box. And he ends up having to run a cable, like, he, like, went across the street, pulled out, like, a giant ladder, climbed up a telephone pole, ran, like, a new line.
Dax:Because, apparently, the old line old line was just, like, busted. I don't know. It just stopped working at some point. Yeah. Ran an old line all the way across my house, then set it up.
Dax:And now it's working, but random websites are, like, really flaky. Well, they'll work for a while, and they'll stop. But then the whole Internet's having issues today, so I can't, like, debug what the problem is.
Adam:I think that's probably I think that's probably the the transatlantic or whatever it was. There was a cable under the sea. Where was it? It's in the Middle East or something that was damaged?
Dax:Yeah. But I don't know if that one is affecting Miami, Florida. You know, like, what's traveling across the
Adam:Yeah. I guess I don't know. The cascading effects of the Internet. Yeah.
Dax:Maybe stuff is getting rerouted or something and stuff is overwhelmed. I don't know.
Adam:Weird to me if you ran it if you ran a new cable and, like, some websites are a little Like, if you had certain colors on your website, they just get mixed up on the cable.
Dax:Yeah. So it's just annoying to debug. So I think I hope it's not because if it if it's an issue on my end, like, I don't even know how they're gonna debug this. It's just it's a hard thing to figure out.
Adam:I heard I didn't even read the article, but I heard Discord. And there were, like, a few services. Faye all the Facebook services were out, maybe.
Ken:All the
Dax:Facebook ones. Yeah. There there's a lot that if you go to downdetector.com, there was, like, a spike in, like, so many unrelated services.
Adam:Downdetectordot com? I've never heard of such a thing.
Dax:Actually brilliant. They don't even monitor anything. They just keep track of the number of times people visit their website. What? And then that that's the analytic.
Dax:Isn't that crazy?
Adam:Wait. Say it again. They don't monitor anything.
Dax:So it's not like they have, like, servers pulling all these services. If you search, like, is Twitter down and you click the link, it takes you to down director.com/ twitter.
Ken:Uh-huh. And you
Dax:plus 1 their counter. And whenever stuff is down, a bunch of people start visiting this site, and they're effectively self reporting, hey, I'm having a problem with this site.
Adam:Yeah.
Dax:It's brilliant.
Adam:That is pretty smart. It doesn't work when you type in Twitter because it's now x. Oh. Twitter outages reported in the last 24 hours. So, yeah, lots of sites showing down on down detector.
Dax:Yeah. So I can't tell, and it's, like, it's really flaky. I think, like, whenever stuff is broken, I'm, like, hitting Google, and Google seems to work. So I don't think it's a problem on my end, but
Adam:Yeah.
Dax:It's just, I'm just not gonna know. Still in the process of moving. I've been doing, like, a little bit every day.
Adam:How long is this gonna stretch out? How long do you have to get stuff out of the other house?
Dax:No one's taken the other house yet. I actually showed someone around it today. No one's just no one's pulled the trigger. So we're gonna try to get it done by today or tomorrow. We did, like, one big push Sunday and Monday.
Dax:And today And moving Yeah.
Adam:Moving sucks. At least, I guess, it's next door. So you didn't have to have a truck and do the whole loading the truck thing, and
Ken:Yeah.
Adam:That part sucks. And, like, if you put stuff in a moving van, it will get destroyed. I don't know if you've ever, like
Dax:Oh, yeah. We moved from New York to Miami.
Adam:Oh, in a truck. Yeah. Like, everything gets destroyed. Like, they all just fight each other. All your things just go at each other, and they destroy each other.
Dax:I moved the most delicate LG OLED TV. It is, like, it is so okay. You know how they were, like they kept making TVs thinner and thinner? They've gotten too thin now where, like, I can barely move. Like, whenever I move it, it's so it's such, like, a scary process because it it just, like, bends and, like,
Ken:it's
Dax:it's too thin.
Ken:Like a
Dax:piece of paper? Completely fine. But they put so much work in, like, box. They, like, reboxed it. They wrapped it a million times to put in the box.
Dax:And they wrapped the box a bunch, and they put blankets all around it. So that one made it easily. Some of our clothes got a little messed up. You know what's crazy about those moves? So those long distance moves from New York to Miami, they show up in a truck.
Dax:It's a normal city truck, and then they load everything in. And you're like, okay. I guess they're on their way to Miami now. They're not. They go to a warehouse, then they unload everything.
Dax:What? And then they wait a couple days or maybe, like, a week till till they accrue a bunch of things. Then they show up in a semi in, like, a bigger like, those bigger
Adam:Uh-huh. Bigger
Dax:trucks, like the tractor trailer trucks.
Adam:Yeah. Semi truck is
Dax:what you're gonna
Adam:say, I think.
Dax:Yeah. Then they load it back in, then they drive it all the way down, unload it into another warehouse, then get a city truck, load it onto the city truck, and drive it to your house.
Adam:So they wait until multiple people are moving to the same place, and then they, like, transport all at once.
Dax:Yeah. They have it all scheduled because, like, they'll, like, pick up, you know, 3 or 4 people. They'll do, like, 3 or 4 days of city pickups, then they'll do, like, one big move. But the thing that sucks is your stuff is getting loaded, unloaded, like, 4 times in that process. And, of course, it's not gonna
Adam:Something's gonna get damaged. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. So in that move, I would say overall, we came out not bad. Like, our codes were actually fine. Just a box that was in them, like, got crushed. Mhmm.
Dax:But the codes were fine. Plates. We lost a bunch of plates. And I think that was it. I think everything else was intact.
Dax:Wow. A little bit of our couch, like, there was, like, like, a stand like, the bottom portion that the couch sits on. Like, one of the stands in the middle broke, but, like, you can't really see that anyway. So Yeah. Overall, not bad.
Adam:Yeah. I've I've had movers move me, and things went pretty well. And then I moved myself once. Things did not go as well. I am not as good at packing as professional movers, it turns out.
Dax:Professional movers are so impressive.
Adam:Yeah. They really are. They're
Ken:so good.
Adam:They move they move fast too.
Dax:The so we had 2 guys come and help us yesterday morning because we had a few heavy items. We're like, we're gonna have someone come help us. And I think movers are always, like, 1 or 2 1 of 2 stereotypes. And I've only ever had the 1st stereotype up until yesterday. The 1st stereotype is, like, just the stockiest people you've ever seen.
Dax:Like, they're like squares, and and, like, they can just lift anything. And they don't, like, look like, you would never see them on the street and be like, oh, that person's, like, really strong. It's just they are Yeah. Like, super dense. Yep.
Dax:The 2 guys that showed up yesterday, both of them were, like, 6 foot 4, super lean, and they looked like NBA players. It
Ken:It was
Dax:like they both look super athletic. Yeah. And they just were like like they just, like, lifted everything. And just when you have that much, I guess, leverage, they're both super lanky, like, super long arms, super long legs, and they were just like Yeah. They made quick work of most of the things.
Dax:And they're like, that was really easy. And I
Adam:was like, that didn't
Dax:not look easy, but okay. We have one of those egg barbecue things.
Adam:Oh, yeah. Big green egg. My dad's
Dax:super drunk. I have a I have a Kamado Joe, which is a red
Adam:one. What? Is that better than the big green egg?
Dax:I think so. But, you know, it's like, what what really is the difference? I don't know.
Adam:Who who knew there were 2 companies that make egg shaped grills? I learned something new today. I
Dax:so when I bought this Kamado Joe grill that's what it's called Kamado Joe. The reason it's called that is because, this type of grill originates in Japan called a Kamado grill.
Adam:Mhmm.
Dax:And obviously, American version of it, Kamado Joe. And I remember I was, like, looking up stuff, and there's, like, all these YouTube videos made by them. There's, like, a huge community of people, like, making making YouTube videos for it. And, like, they're a big successful company. I'm like, man, it must be so fun to work at a company like this.
Dax:Like, you do all you do is make these barbecues. Everyone loves your product. Like, it's just good times. Like, it's genuinely, everyone's super happy to buy your stuff. And you just go in every day and you, like, you make these egg shaped ceramic grills, and and that's that's that's, like, your life and your passion and what you think about.
Dax:I think that's, man, that sounds really fun.
Adam:You don't think you'd get bored? Like, I can't imagine that there's that much to think about. I mean, maybe. Maybe they, like, improve their manufacturing over time. There's, like
Dax:I will say the thing that they go craze okay. So the grill itself, if you buy, like, the midsize one that you probably get, it's around, like, $1200. If you go crazy with accessories, you can buy, like, 2,000 or $3,000 worth of accessories on top because they have found a way to make this thing do literally anything. So if you wanna, like, cook pizza in it, there's, like, a pizza oven attachment. There's a there's an airflow vent at the bottom, and it's what you used to control how much oxygen it's getting to control the temperature.
Dax:They built, like, this $400 fan that you like connect into it. And it's like a smart fan. It connects to your phone and it keeps track of the temperature inside of the thing. And it like controls how much oxygen is going in. So it's, like, precisely the right temperature at all times.
Dax:So it's, like yeah. So they go crazy coming up with these, like, additional things.
Adam:So it's not just making the the round ceramic grill. Like, that would get boring, I would think. But if you keep coming up with new products, I guess that's exciting.
Dax:Yeah. I I think the mission is just what's funny. It's like your ultimate mission is just so people make good food and are happy. You know? It's, like, so simple and straightforward, and no one can really argue with it.
Adam:I've never considered, life in a job like that, or any other job really, I guess. Do you ever yeah. Do you ever think about, like like, I wish I'd gone into this instead of what I do?
Dax:Like, a different industry or, like, my, like, craft is different?
Adam:Completely different profession. Just like a completely different job, not programming.
Dax:Yeah. I do, but then I'm, like, I just I have such a hard time imagining it because I can't imagine myself being good at anything else. So in my when I try to imagine, I just imagine myself sucking at some random thing, and I'm like, that isn't fun.
Adam:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I just I just read something yesterday. Or, no, I heard it on a podcast, I think.
Adam:The guy, Cal Newport, wrote Deep Work. He's on the Rich Roll podcast, and he was talking about I think that's where I read it or heard it. Maybe not. Maybe this is a completely separate thought, but it was about, like, passion and how you don't, like, you don't, like, pursue your passion when you're looking for your career. It's like you develop a passion when you gain expertise in a thing.
Adam:Maybe that's common knowledge, but kinda hit me as, like, I guess I wasn't passionate about programming when I started programming. I didn't know anything about it. But then, eventually, you become really passionate the more you do it, the more you like it, and the more you get good at it and all that. Yeah. Interesting.
Dax:Yeah. Once you're good at something, it's just addictive. Because, like, there's no better feeling than feeling like you know what you're doing. So
Adam:Yeah. I'm also addicted to things I'm terrible at, though, like jujitsu. So I don't know what that's about. If I think I'm gonna be good someday, and that's why I'm hooked. I don't know.
Dax:That's good, though. That's, like, what people struggle with. Right? People have a hard time going back to feeling like they're a beginner. But if you don't have that, it's kind of, like, a superpower.
Dax:Yeah.
Adam:Have you ever played golf?
Dax:No. But I keep finding golf balls all around my new house because I think the people that lived it you know, it's
Adam:I know for
Dax:sure that the 3 wait. Do you remember me telling you that I, like, live next to one of these 3 frat guys?
Adam:Oh, yeah. Is this their house?
Dax:And now I live in their now I live in their house. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And and then
Adam:now that
Dax:I see the backyard, I'm like, oh, no wonder they were just always throwing parties because this is, like, the perfect party backyard, especially if
Adam:you're, like picture. Yeah. It's nice.
Ken:Especially if
Dax:you're, like, that age, like, probably very few people have access to, like, a place like that. But, yeah, I'm I I would always see them with golf bags in the mornings, and I think they were just, like, hitting golf balls around in the backyard. It was, like, you know, on a fake grass.
Adam:Well, golf is a, a sport that's notoriously hard to master. And you basically you go play golf and you're terrible, and you're chasing balls all over. You're digging to the woods looking for your ball. It's just like an awful time, but then you hit, like, one good shot every time you go, and that keeps you coming back. You think about that shot.
Adam:That's all you think about after that round of golf. It's like, man, I hit that ball well. And then you come back for the next round, and it's misery again. You're just you're terrible. Everything's going poorly.
Adam:You hit them in the lake. You hit them all over. Then you get that one shot.
Ken:And it's
Adam:at, like, a different club this time. Like, I actually hit a 4 iron today. That was amazing. So it's it's an interesting sport in that it's just pain all the time, but then those little glimmers of hope keep you hooked. You get really addict I get really addicted.
Adam:I get addicted to everything. Whatever.
Dax:Well, it's funny because the way you describe that, I feel like certain, like, games or like mobile games or like there's things that are like engineered to have that exact pattern where it's like mostly frustration, but they like feed you one little
Ken:Mhmm.
Dax:Thing that feels like progress in the at the right cadence, and then it's, like, the recipe for addiction.
Ken:Isn't
Adam:it crazy that that, like, you read these articles about companies, social media companies, and all these companies that are, like, figuring out how to, like, release the right amount of dopamine in your brain at the right time? Like, all this, like, engineering of addiction. Like, who are the people doing it though? Because, like, I've worked at tech companies, I guess. And, like, I'm trying to think, who is the person?
Adam:Is it the data scientist? And do they realize that's what they're doing, or are they just, like, given a bunch of, like, datasets and they're like, hey. Figure out how to make this number go up? Or does somebody know, like, I'm literally, like, engineering people's brains to be addicted to this thing. Is there a person at the company that knows that?
Dax:I think there's it's funny because my first reaction was, I don't think I think yes, but I think most people aren't competent enough to think that way. That's kinda what comes to mind. Because, like, when you're talking about this, I thought about Nikita Bier. I'm, like, he definitely, like, really thinks about this stuff and is super aware of exactly the dynamics. Mhmm.
Dax:And then I remember this thing I saw. This do you see this interaction with him and Paul Graham yesterday?
Adam:No. On Twitter?
Dax:Paul Graham posted a chart, okay, a growth chart. Had no labels. Didn't say what app it was. It was and he commented, this is an interesting app because, they get a big spike because this app relates to people's New Year's resolutions. But the app works.
Dax:So then, like, they actually retain all those people. Like, so every year, they'll get a spike and they actually do retain them. And I was like, okay. That was interesting. Then Nikita B replies going, is this a language learning app?
Dax:And then Paul Graham was like, yeah. And then he, like, linked the company because the guy was like, I'm fine with you saying it publicly. He literally just looked at a chart. He just saw the chart from Newark and was like, this has to be a language learning app.
Adam:Wow. Yeah. That guy, he he's the, I guess, the world expert in, like, at least with phones, how to get people addicted to something.
Dax:Consumer product. Yeah.
Adam:And how to make it something people wanna share and all those things. He yeah. He thinks about this stuff all the time, doesn't he? But I don't think of him as, like, evil. I don't know if the person I'm describing, like, at the evil big company is, like, I'm gonna make them spend more time on their phone.
Adam:And I don't think of him that way. I think
Dax:the I think the smarter you are, the easier it is to create a story that doesn't sound so evil to yourself.
Adam:Maximizing shareholder value. I don't
Dax:think anyone's out there, like, I love being evil.
Adam:Oh, right.
Dax:I'm sure they, like, wrap it in, like, all kinds of all kinds of whatever.
Adam:And you're not evil. It's not like you have to convince yourself you're not evil. Like, you're not. It's just like don't know. Where where did I just hear about, did I watch something?
Adam:Did I watch a documentary or something?
Ken:I don't know.
Adam:I just I feel like this is top of mind with, like, how how much time we spend on our phones, how they're destroying all these social constructs and most of modern society, and we're all addicted and yada yada yada. I mean, it's the same stuff, like, we all know, but we keep doing it. Do you just, like do you think it's fine? And it'll all just, like, go away and, like, we'll figure it out how to adapt, evolve with these things?
Dax:I again, speaking to Kira, he tweeted something the other day that where he was like, I stare at my phone all day because it's so damn interesting. Something like that. In a lot of ways, it can be that simple. Like, maybe it's it is just one of the most genuinely interesting things that's happening in the world. Not saying it's the only interesting thing, but Yeah.
Dax:Maybe we wouldn't be so glued to our phones if they weren't the most interesting thing in the world.
Adam:I mean, his perspective would be that. Right? Because he makes these apps that do really well. I I know what it was. It was on, the Bill Simmons podcast.
Adam:He had somebody on. I can't remember. And they talked about the future of everything, which I thought was funny because that's kind of what our podcast is labeled as, but we only talk about programming and stupid stuff. I don't know. Yeah.
Adam:No. They they he this guy was, like, a research scientist or something. I don't know. Or, no, he writes for variety. I don't know.
Adam:He's a writer.
Dax:Wait. Beddle Simmons podcast covers, like, random shit like that?
Adam:Oh, yeah. Lots of pop culture stuff.
Dax:Oh, okay. Our guest is here. Look at that. So I have a funny story. I don't think I ever told you this, Ken, but a few years ago when I first found your Twitter, I was like, oh, this guy is hilarious.
Dax:And then I was, I went to Liz and I was like, look at this guy. He's an engineer, but, like, he's so funny and so different from what you'd expect. And she looks at your profile, and she, like, got kinda upset. She was like, are you guys just laughing at him because he's Latin? And I was like I was like, he's not.
Dax:But, you know, I totally get why she thought that. You definitely a 100% give off that vibe.
Ken:That's so fucking funny. You you know what's you know, here's the funny thing. So I get that a lot. Right? But what also happens a lot is anywhere I go internationally, especially in Europe.
Ken:Right? It doesn't matter, like, what, like, you know, like, you think, like, of, like, a Swede. It's like this, like, tall fucking blonde guy or something. Right? You think, like, oh, well, you know, Italian.
Ken:Right? They get this, you know, the mustache and all that shit. But no matter no matter what country you're in, there's always that, like, phenotype of dude that is, like, the bald, like, sugary fuck. Right? So inevitably inevitably, whenever I'm over there, like, they'll try to talk to me in the language because they think that I'm from there Yeah.
Ken:Just because, like, there's that fucking guy everywhere.
Dax:You're right. Yeah. If you're in Turkey, totally see it. If you're in Greece, totally see it. Like, yeah, you you kinda work anywhere.
Dax:Like, I
Ken:don't fucking speak Polish. I'm like, I thought I was fucking like, yeah. I have this unbelievable.
Dax:I have the same thing everywhere else in the world. Like, if I go to if I'm anywhere, like, Latin, they think I'm, like, Dominican. If I'm in, Asia, I think I'm like from the Middle East, North African. So I definitely I definitely blend in as well.
Ken:I believe it.
Dax:What about you, Adam? Do people mistake you for They
Adam:mostly think I'm white. Yeah. They mostly think I'm Caucasian. That's what I
Dax:get a lot.
Ken:And it's
Dax:and it's accurate.
Ken:Yeah. Dude, what is, what is this mic cover you have on there?
Adam:On mine? Yeah. It's white. You know? It's my It's my brand.
Ken:Did you order that, like, 3rd party?
Adam:Yeah. That it's like a place in the UK that sells these colored
Dax:Of course, in the UK. Colored.
Ken:Yeah. That's amazing.
Dax:Every single SM 7 b owner in the world, it looks like this. And then, of course, yours
Ken:So then
Adam:mine is white. Is
Dax:the one is the one white one.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah. It kinda makes me look like
Ken:white. White. There's, like, fucking lip skin on it from, like Yeah. I noticed that aggressively.
Adam:The other day. I noticed that mine's getting kinda gross, and the white shows it really bad. It's like, I guess I touch it.
Dax:Mine just covered in, like, lint and dog hair and all kinds of bullshit. I don't even know. Can you clean this?
Ken:Do you clean it? Yeah. Can no. I don't know.
Dax:I don't know. These guys should replace it.
Ken:It's really just replace it. Just replace it.
Adam:Just be a consumer, Dax. Just order a new one.
Ken:It's like it's like the, like, did you see where they they, they clean, like, the stadium seats?
Dax:No way.
Ken:Just, like, burn off the first light. You never saw
Dax:that? No.
Ken:Oh, dude. So, like like, imagine, like, some, like like, minor league baseball stadium. Right? That's been there for, like, 30 years. And the seats, they now, like, plastic looks real shitty, like subway seat capture.
Ken:Right? Like, an old playground swing. There's this dude, and he goes around, and you take, like, a blowtorch, like, a roofing torch, and you go, and it's, like, brand new looking.
Dax:Wow. Wait a minute. Does that burn off a layer?
Ken:It, like, melts back the first layer or some shit, but, like, dude, like, you wanna talk about, like, a satisfying video. Right? Like, you see these videos that are, like, you you watch it, and you're like. Right? Yeah.
Ken:You know, have you ever have you ever, like, power washed?
Dax:And you're like, oh, yeah. I do the power washing video. Yeah.
Ken:But, like, this shit, making a seat new again. Oh, did you. I watched it. I'm like, oh, this is just.
Dax:Did you, did you see the thing where the person was cleaning the I think it was, like, a bus seat that was fucked up. So you know how, like, bus seats are, like, fabric, but they're always, like, some crazy ass pattern? Yeah. Mhmm. The crazy pattern is there because they're fucking disgusting.
Dax:Like, he was pulling out, like, a bucket of dirt out of the bus seat.
Adam:Oh, that's crazy. Not good.
Ken:And people, like, fall asleep on that with their, like, fucking mouth and eyes on it and shit.
Dax:Yeah. So if you're on public, don't sit down. That's what I've learned.
Ken:I've seen a lot of videos on buses that show all these things happening and I don't like it.
Dax:I mean, I've never really taken a bus. I mean, I did in New York sometimes.
Ken:People throwing up, shitting, pissing. Have you ever been back have you ever been to, like, the back of an Uber where you, like, could tell that, like, you know, there was some partying going on the evening prior? Yes.
Dax:Yes. We've I think we've all been there.
Ken:I'm like, did somebody puke in this fucking car?
Dax:I definitely puked out of a lot of Ubers. I feel like I've always made it to, like, pull a window open or pull the door open.
Ken:Is it is it a sweaty looking hair tie in the floor? Oh, man.
Dax:I saw. I saw you were saying the the weather was good by you. You were doing some outside stuff again?
Ken:Well, the the, the weekend was lovely. It was unbelievable. It was, like, 65 degrees. I mean, it's been, like, like, 22 degrees. Yeah.
Ken:So when it's, like, 65 degrees and, like, it's like that, like, nourishing sun, you know, like, like, I don't know this time of year, like the sun gets brighter. Like it wasn't as bright prior.
Dax:Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Ken:And like now it's just like bright as shit. And like, you can like sit there and it's like 65 degrees out, but it feels like 75 because you're getting kinda toasted if you're in direct sunlight. Yeah. So when that happens, you know, like, if it was in the middle of summer, it was 65 degrees, I'd be like, oh, give me a hoodie. But, like, now it's 65 degrees.
Ken:I'm like, oh, man. I was like, I'm gonna go out here shirtless and make hamburgers.
Dax:That is the thing, though. Like, I remember when because I went and lived in the northeast, when it would get a little cold in, like, September, I would be, like, freezing my ass off and I wear a sweater. Same temperature in March, I'm, like, in shorts without a shirt on, and it feels fucking amazing.
Ken:Yeah. You're like, fucking cowabunga. Yeah. Cowabunga.
Adam:Kim, do you have a an egg shaped grill?
Ken:No. I actually don't. And I actually have, like, a a portfolio of grills. Mhmm.
Dax:If you
Ken:go out of my deck right now, there's there's 3 or 4 grills in a row. Wow. They're, like, the pellet smoker, the the gas Weber, the flat top Blackstone. I think there's a yeah. I have, like, a, like, a charcoal.
Ken:It's a funny grill. It's like a little charcoal grill, like, apparently some kinda like Japanese kebab grill or some shit, but, it's it's been it's made by supreme or at least in collaboration with supreme. Yeah. I was jumping like, oh, I'm like, you know who got it? Eric Lewis.
Ken:Eric Lewis was like, I just got the supreme grill, and I'm like I'm like, I must have it. I went on, like, stock x.
Dax:We got this supreme grill. Stock x.
Adam:Oh my god.
Ken:Yeah. I even bought it aftermarket. What is stock X?
Adam:I've never heard of stock X.
Ken:It's like, if there's, like, popular sneakers that, like, sold out and you wanna buy them for double the price, you go on Stock x.
Adam:Okay.
Ken:You don't get the initial drop.
Dax:Yeah. Okay. They're a hot start up for a while. I know a few people that that work there. I think they're in New York, maybe.
Dax:Which one of your grills do you use the most? What's your go to?
Ken:That's hard to say. Probably the Weber right now.
Dax:Mhmm. Yeah.
Ken:But it's it's it's different things. Right? Like, if I'm gonna make smash burgers, I'll do it on the, the flat top, a lot of breakfast on the, on the flat top. One thing that I do hilariously on the flat top is hibachi.
Dax:Oh, yeah. Do you do do you do all the tricks?
Adam:A volcano?
Ken:So, like, so I got it. Like, I got it. Like, I was like, oh, this is like this is like a hibachi thing. So I have to do a hibachi. So I did, like, private hibachi with, like, my immediate family.
Ken:And then my wife's sister found out about this and said that, oh, you, like, you have to cook hibachi for everybody. It's like the middle of summer, like so they go and they get me, like, the hibachi hat. Oh, headband, like the the whole the whole setup. Even like the little dude who pisses out the the onion volcano. Yeah.
Ken:You're not gonna see it when you press it when the shorts come down. It's like, I have I have I have all the paraphernalia. Like, if you if you were there to witness it, it was unbelievable because, like, made, like, like, canonical hibachi, but, like, was shit faced the entire night. Like, I think I drank like 2 or 3 bottles of sake while cooking it. And I had like traditional Japanese music playing way, way too loud on the outdoor speakers.
Ken:It was like a real it was just a real event. It was pretty funny.
Dax:I haven't I don't think I've met anyone that can drink like you. Because the last time we hung out so Ken showed up, and he already drank, like, 6 Old Fashioneds or something crazy. I couldn't even tell that you were drunk. I think he had, like, 3 or 4 more again at the place. And I was like, I think if I had 3 or 4, I'd be, like, knocked out.
Dax:A lot of practice.
Ken:I'm like, all right, I'm going to go hit the hotel gym. We'll see you later.
Dax:And you wake up early, too, right? I don't know. It's.
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I think today was 5. Yeah.
Adam:Do you go to bed early? Like, what what is I I don't imagine you go to bed early.
Ken:It it depends. Right? Like and it usually it's like an 11:30 type thing.
Adam:11:30 to 5.
Ken:But it can go as far as 3. You can go as early as 10.
Adam:Can You still get up early when you stay up late?
Ken:Yeah. Oh, okay. That's the that's the funniest part is that no matter how late I go to bed, I still wake up at the same time.
Adam:Yeah. I know that feeling. Yeah.
Ken:So I can, like, be out till 3 and, like, wake up at 5, and I'm like, oh, fuck. Here we go. Still drunk. Yeah. Like, I'll, like, wake up and, like, like, vape a little, like, go, like, drink, like, hotel faucet water.
Ken:I'm like, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. You know, like, when you've drank all the water bottles in the hotel room and it's next morning, like, they haven't replenished the water bottles. Give you enough. Do you sit there and, like, cup and faucet water in your mouth?
Ken:Like
Dax:this is like a such a problem in hotels. Like, I feel like I'm always like, you think a hotel gives you, like, figures out the water situation for you, but they never do. They're always I
Adam:just Instacart. No. I Instacart big packages of water.
Dax:To the hotel?
Adam:Yeah. Is that not a thing people do?
Ken:They would. I always
Adam:have, like, tons of water.
Dax:That you said that, but that has literally never crossed my mind in my whole life. I mean,
Adam:I travel, like, 3 times a year. So I'm not gonna, like, not have water when I'm away.
Ken:It really depends on the hotel. Like, there's there's, like, this really nice hotel in Chicago that I used to stay in where, like, every night before bed, they would put on like opera on this Bose thing. So like you walk in and like opera's playing
Dax:in your room
Ken:and yeah. Yeah. And there's, like, they had, like, branded, like, milk cartons of water that were really, really cute.
Dax:Oh, nice.
Ken:And, like, they'd have, like, a water for you and, like, the slippers, like, on, like, a folded towel on the ground. Right? And it's the funniest thing because I would slay the water. And, like, I can't tell you how many times I've walked in, like, shit face and then woke up in the morning, and the opera is still playing. I never turn out.
Ken:I don't have a little vehicle to turn it off. I'm like, wake up in the morning. So, like, that and, like, do you know when you walk into a hotel room and it's, like, the introductory fucking like, it's like, it's like, welcome, mister Wheeler. Right? And, like On
Dax:the TV.
Ken:I never shut the shit off. I never I don't I don't really watch TV, so it's, like, never I don't know. I just fall asleep, and I wake up, and that shit's still going. I'm like, damn. It's falling out.
Dax:Oh, man. That's funny.
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a weird thing. Like, I like, I know some people will go and they'll watch TV, but I don't. I just, like, fuck around on my phone.
Dax:Oh, yeah. I mean, does anyone even use a TV these days in the hotel? Like, what's the point?
Ken:Some people do. Some people watch the TV.
Dax:Do people still buy porn on the t on TV? Like, that one, I never understood. Like, is that still a thing people do?
Ken:It's still a thing that you can do.
Dax:Well, I stayed at a hotel the other day or, like, a couple months ago, and that was, like, so prominently featured as a feature of this TV. And I was like, who is still doing this in, like, 2024? It's expensive. It's, like, 20 something bucks.
Ken:It is expensive. I did it once in Atlantic City, and it was more of, like, a joke thing.
Dax:Yeah. Was it worth it?
Ken:So is it, like, they're my wife? Yeah. It wouldn't no. No. She's like This this guy turned it off.
Ken:You know, it's not it's not like a, like, a solo thing. Like, how do you not have access to this Yeah. Or your phone? Yeah. Exactly.
Ken:I don't
Dax:it just doesn't make any sense. Even if
Ken:you It's it's just, like, the wrong it's, like, a commercial category. You know?
Dax:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Even if you wanna pay, the selection's gonna be better on your phone. So I don't get it.
Ken:Definitely better.
Dax:There's and there's some, like, hotels here. I guess, more motels. It's still, like, advertised that as, like, a feature of the hotel, like, on their front signs. They're like, motel,
Ken:adult film. Front sign.
Dax:Exclamation point. Yeah, dude. I mean, it is Miami, so it's a little different. Speaking of, when are you moving here?
Ken:I don't know. I'd like to. You know, that's that's largely rates dependent.
Dax:Yeah. I know. We're all trapped right now.
Ken:Mhmm. Rates and price. And I'm like, fuck, dude. Am I gonna have to live in this place? I mean, there's worse places to live, but I'm, like, stuck in New Jersey for the rest of my life.
Ken:I lived in a 5 mile radius for 38 years so far, so it's not like That's not even devastating. But
Dax:Yeah. Adam's in the same thing. Right?
Adam:Yeah. I mean, well, we moved, like, 2 hours away. I've been the Ozarks my whole life.
Dax:Adam's lived in Florida for a year?
Adam:Oh, I did. I lived in Naples. Yeah.
Ken:How'd that go?
Adam:It was good. I mean, Naples is different than Miami. I don't know if you're aware, but
Ken:it's very
Dax:old people, which is our speed.
Adam:We brought the Ozarks to Florida.
Ken:Yeah. It was nice. I remember I was asking you when when you told me about the Ozarks. I was like, oh, man. That's like that must be amazing.
Ken:You, like, go out on, like, boats and go fishing each other. And you're like and you and it was the funniest fucking day. You go to you go, no. I'm a bit of an indoorsman. I was like, dude, that's the funniest thing I've ever
Adam:heard in my entire life. I've never gone hunting. Like, all of my friends growing up, like, got out of school to go deer hunting. I've literally never never been in the woods and hunted an animal. And I live in, like, the capital of it in the world.
Ken:Oh, it's, like, the best. I had deer stew for lunch.
Dax:I saw today that venison stew for the week. That looked good. Yep.
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. It was tasty.
Adam:Did you kill the deer, or did you, like, buy it
Dax:at the store?
Ken:Yeah.
Adam:Wow. I don't know. Just, like, went out in the woods in New Jersey and shot it?
Dax:New Jersey's got a lot of deer. Wow.
Adam:Really? Yeah.
Ken:No population of deer. Yeah. It's a problem. Doing so is actually like a a conservationist. Yeah.
Ken:Serve yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. They encourage you.
Ken:You're managing the habitat capacity.
Adam:I just don't imagine woods. Like, are are you close to New York or not so much?
Ken:Here's the thing about New Jersey and a lot of these places. Right? Is that, along the edge Yeah. Right, like, the the ocean.
Dax:Yeah.
Ken:Right. It's all, it's very built up. Yeah. Right. But like, you go like 1 or 2 towns back and it's like extremely wooded.
Adam:Okay.
Ken:So there's actually a lot of like, like woods.
Adam:Yeah. I guess I've never been to any part of New Jersey that's not connected to New York city.
Ken:Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like, you have North Jersey. Right? And that goes actually in a little bit farther, but down by me.
Ken:I mean, you go, like, 1 or 2 towns back, and you are just in the woods.
Dax:Yeah. I mean, it's it's called the garden state, and the place where I'm from is, it's, like, almost rural. Like, it's it's built up a little bit now because all, like, a bunch of suburbs got put in there. But if you're driving along the road, like, you'd think you're in, like, a rural rural area. So New Jersey is small, but it's actually pretty beautiful in some parts minus the parts that are, like, spewing out of New York.
Dax:Like, everything else is pretty nice.
Ken:It's like it's like Laguna Beach. Everyone's, like, surfing and blah. Right? And then, like, you go up north, and it's it's a funny thing that happens because, like, most cities are contained by their state, whereas New York City is, like, at the absolute dick tip of New York State. And like the the sprawl, like, when you would, like, look at, like, like, greater Atlanta.
Ken:Right? Like, you know, you have, like, all these townships that are, like, still Georgia, and they're, like, greater like, greater New York is is, like, mostly New Jersey and, like, Connecticut. And then, like, you get, like, like, Westchester and stuff like that. But it's funny to me that, like, everybody in New York is, like, fucking New Jersey. You're not from New York.
Ken:Right? And, like, bro, literally half of the New York metropolitan areas in fucking New Jersey, including the Statue of Liberty. You're from fucking Ohio. You fucking moved here 2 years ago. Shut the fuck up.
Ken:Like, it's unbelievable.
Dax:Yeah. That's very accurate. That's that's definitely the vibe. I mean, yeah, I Ken described it once as a midwesterner scorpion. Like, half New York, and it's super accurate.
Dax:It's crazy accurate. It's like a checklist item. Like, they gotta live in New York for 2 years before they leave, and they go there. And then, yeah, it's like, you see that all the time.
Ken:If they go there and buy some expensive boots, start putting down New Jersey. Unbelievable. New
Dax:Jersey is great. I feel like more people should consider it. It has a bad rep because of the butt of every joke. But honestly, like, it's some pretty good spots.
Ken:It's a little expensive and a tad over legislative Yeah. It is. In my opinion. However, like, there is a lot going on.
Adam:I feel like that was code for something, but I didn't get it.
Ken:No. No. It's not code for anything. You know, there's like, there's like a variety of things to do. There's all kinds of shit going on and, like, a lot of different, you know, like, if you go, like, northwest, it's like woods and mountains and shit.
Ken:And if you go, like, all the way down south, it's, like, the weirdest shit.
Dax:Are you sure that the Jersey, like, twice. Yeah.
Ken:Yeah. That that gets really, really interesting. There's, like, dudes, like like, NASCAR jackets on in Europe. What the fuck is going?
Dax:Like Yeah.
Ken:Yeah. It's it's wild.
Dax:It's a it's a really diverse I mean, the people too is super diverse. Like, you'll run to every kind of person, which means there's, like, every kind of food also, which is, I took that for granted. Like, whenever whenever I meet people from anywhere else, like, they just don't know about certain kinds of food. Like, my wife didn't have Indian food until she was, like
Adam:so good.
Dax:24 or something. It's, like, wild to me. It's the best.
Ken:It's unbelievable. My word.
Dax:Yeah. I can't believe you have Indian food in by you, Adam. Right? You said there's a place.
Adam:You're not supposed to wear shoes in me. You're not supposed to wear shoes
Dax:in an Indian place. No. I'm just I'm just kidding.
Ken:I don't yeah. But you know what? I don't think you know how hard, like, Indian food in Edison, New Jersey goes. It's like getting pizza. It's like, it's kinda like getting pizza in the rest of the country.
Dax:Yeah.
Ken:Right? Like, if you get, like, pizza outside of the outside of the northeast and, you know, okay. Chicago, I hear you. But, you know, you get, like, outside of there. Right?
Ken:Like, the pizza is, like, you know, I'm sure pizza is delicious and it's good, but it's not the same. If you're out in, like like, Edison, there's, like, levels to this shit. Jersey City Town. Right? Like, it's not
Dax:just
Ken:it's not just like the one kind of Indian or the one good grade of Indian with the the red and green sauce. Right? There's like I
Adam:don't I don't really eat I don't really eat Indian food here in the Ozarks, I guess. It's just when I travel. And we make some stuff, but it's not I'm sure it's not what Bax could make or his family could make. I don't know.
Dax:I can't make shit. No. I no. No. No.
Dax:I can't make shit. My mom, though, my mom is an amazing cook. I
Adam:think you've talked about it before. It sounds
Dax:so good. So it's funny that Ken brought Edison.
Ken:Let me pull up.
Dax:You know, she would she would not mind dropping some shit off, I'm sure.
Ken:I was just trying to go over
Dax:there, but Yeah. No. No. No.
Ken:I'm I'm I'm coordinating this very specifically.
Dax:Yeah. Adam, you don't under when Kent is added to New Jersey, like, if you go there, you will think you're in India. So I moved, to New Jersey, like, I guess it was, like, 30 or 25 years ago, something like that. And it was, like, kinda Indian back then, but now it's just like it just every person you see is Indian. Every business is like an Indian business.
Dax:Like, it is insane, and it's, like, spreading from there.
Ken:It's like like like street signs, like Gandhi Street.
Dax:And that happened so quick. It was over the last 3 decades, I would say. It's And
Ken:then there's, like, specialty supermarkets where you can get shit that you, like, can't get.
Dax:Yeah. You
Ken:know, like, I know there's, like, the there's a Asian supermarket, and you can get, like, durians there and shit. Like Oh,
Adam:yeah. Those are the smelly ones. Right?
Ken:All kinds of, like, wild import shit. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. The the Forbidden ingredients. Well,
Ken:you know what was the trip was the the bat's temple. Did you see when I posted about that?
Dax:I saw it. I don't know if you saw it.
Adam:I don't I don't know which time I'd know.
Ken:So, like, apparently, like, one of the largest Hindu temples, like, I don't know, like, 2nd or 3rd largest in the world or something. They built not even in that part of New Jersey. And, like, in, like, the woods part of New York. Like, I was out at, like, there there's, like, this, like, sculpture garden. Right?
Ken:Where you can go to this, like, French restaurant and get all tipsy off champagne and then walk around like a sculpture garden, and it's fucking sick. So we do that from time to time. And, we're like leaving and we're like kind of shit face. Right. And, I mean, not like shit face, but we're buzzy.
Ken:And my wife's like, oh, do you want to, that, that, that temple's by here. You wanna go check that out? Cause like you hear, you hear it like they imported like fucking like a $1,000,000,000 worth of like Carrera marble to build it and shit. Right. You really, whatever.
Ken:So, like, we were like, yeah. Check it out. We, like, pull up, and it's, like, the craziest shit you've ever seen in your entire life. The craziest shit.
Dax:It's it's insane.
Adam:There's a tweet,
Ken:like I say. I was like, I don't know how this I don't know how this is gonna go. Right? Like, I'm gonna walk in here and, like, you know, I I don't know. But I walked up, and they're like, mad.
Ken:Cool. Right? They're like they're like, hey. Check this shit out. They're like, it's fucking sick.
Ken:Right? And I'm like, he is fucking sick. Like, so tight. Is it my fault?
Adam:If you
Ken:need anything, let me know. Like, I don't even think he'd work there.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. That's what I like about and maybe I'll see. I think there's, like, a section of every race that's like this where they, like, come up to you and they're like, I don't care what you look like. Like, you don't care what I look like.
Dax:Just show me how this shit works. Like, show me what's going on. That's, like, what many people are like, and it's and it's great.
Ken:Yeah. It was it was nuts. I had the the meta glasses on. So, like, I just walked through there, and I was, like, taking pictures of shit. And like, dude, it's like a movie.
Ken:It's a crazy it's like, like, you know how you go like Disney and like, they like recreate, like, Paris and like, you walk through there and you're like, oh, wow. Right? Like, like it's like that, but it's like real, not like made out of styrofoam. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Dude. You should, you should look it up, Adam. Just search it's b Is
Adam:there yeah. There's a tweet or something?
Dax:P s temple, New Jersey. Just Google Image it. It's like it's outrageous. It's a kinda thing you expect to see in other countries from, like, a 1000 years ago or something, and they built it in the last, like, 10 years.
Ken:It's like the most well built thing in New Jersey currently.
Adam:That's insane. So it's like a whole city.
Ken:It's like a whole complex kinda thing. And they have, like, they have, like, restaurants, stores.
Adam:Yeah. It looks like multiple buildings.
Ken:Community center kinda thing. Movie theaters.
Adam:Built by volunteers? 12,000 volunteers?
Dax:No. No. No. No. Okay.
Dax:So there was a little bit of a scandal. Yeah. That's where it came from. Scandal with it where, they were charged with, like, straight up slavery or something insane like that because
Adam:Oh, no.
Dax:They brought over a bunch of people from India to work on it, and the people were claiming that they were, like, physically trapped in the facility, like, in the place where they're building it, and they're being paid, like, $1 a day or something insane.
Ken:There were allegations of exploitation.
Dax:Yeah. I think it ended up I don't know. It got, like, smoothed over where, like, it wasn't really that, but I don't know. Who knows what's going on? But, yeah, man.
Dax:If you're gonna build something that crazy, it's not surprising some fucked up shit is going on.
Adam:That is it's amazing. Yeah. We're gonna have to put pictures on the show notes or something. This is insane.
Ken:Have you guys ever used chat gpt voice? I use it
Dax:all the time. It's I
Adam:got has a shortcut button
Dax:for it. Shortcut on my iPhone. It goes right to it. Yeah.
Ken:It's like as I'm leaving there, I'm like, wow. That was really something. Right? And, like, I have, like, a 40 minute drive in my house. Right?
Ken:So, like, popped up in chat, GPT Voice, and I'm like, hey. Like, what's what's like that whole particular sect all about? Like, what's what's what's the story here? You know? I wanna wanna know more.
Ken:And it was so cool how, like, it, like, gave me, like, 20 minutes of material. Yeah. And it's funny because it, like, stops and it's like, well, like, so it's not like a robot voice necessarily. Like, it'll do, like, those, like, transition noises in speech, which is, makes it oddly fluid.
Adam:Yeah. I have considered, like, using it for Wikipedia style, like, just like a podcast because Mhmm. Chajiquiti is super verbose, and that's the thing that drives me nuts using it for, like, work stuff. But if it's like I'm in the car and I just wanna listen to something and having it, like, read me about something I wanna know about, that's that's an interesting use case. I like it.
Ken:How the fuck do grain mills work? And you just Oh, gotcha.
Dax:I do the exact same thing. If I'm alone in the car, I just, like, pick some random thing that I wanna like, I've always had a question about or I don't know how to do, and I just talk back and forth to it. And it sounds so realistic. Like, this is, like, trip from the future. I was doing, because I just moved.
Dax:I had to go patch up all the holes I made in the other house. So I was, like, just having a conversation about learning how to do that. And I feel like I can I can straight up and go do it now? I asked every question that I possibly had. It's, it's great.
Ken:Yeah. It's spackle time, homeboy.
Dax:Yeah. Spackle.
Ken:Yeah. You have a whole bucket.
Dax:So many techniques, though. There's so many different options.
Ken:You said you gotta go, like, mesh and everything? I don't think I made
Dax:any holes that big, but I gotta see. The mesh is cool. That was a cool technique. Like, who came up with all this shit? There's, like, 8 different ways you can patch a hole.
Dax:It's wild.
Ken:So when we were, you know, done in a 20 year old degenerates, we rented this house. And, oh, man. We used to, like, skateboard in the living room, like, go from the kitchen to, like, ollie up onto a table and that kind of thing. And, you know, constantly, like, punching and things like that. So, like, there were, like, huge holes in the wall all the time.
Ken:And we figured out that you could actually, use spackle and fix it with an empty 30 pack cardboard.
Dax:Yeah. Would you, would you just
Ken:put it on
Dax:the inside of the wall and then like spackle over it?
Ken:You put it on the outside of the wall and then
Dax:On the outside.
Ken:It and then just hand it a little. There wasn't some fucking immaculate wall to begin with. You can see, like, the taping and everything like that, but he provided the structure required for this for the stack of the tank. Sanded a little, do a color match on the paint. Speaking of the car, this really funny thing happened this morning.
Ken:When I dropped my kids off this morning, I told them I was gonna pull up in style. So I played NSYNC, bye bye, bye. I'm gonna like flip the fuck out. Like, like, like bad, like trying to get me to turn it off. Oh, really?
Ken:Like, yeah, that
Dax:sucks. Yeah.
Ken:They were like embarrassed. And I'm like, I'm like, wow. I'm like, how, like, how can you be so irrationally angry over the arguably best boy band of all time? Arguably. Why I say that?
Ken:Because, you know, there are back Boy camps out there who, you know, are just itching to disagree
Dax:passionately. I was a Backstreet Boys guy when I was growing up. I didn't like that as much. I knew but I could tell that, like, I was wrong. I could tell that everybody else was I was in, like, the minority side.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Backstreet Boys, what when is that Kanye song gonna get released? Is it one of those things that's never gonna come out?
Ken:I think it's on this the it's it's scheduled for the the next one.
Dax:Are they doing 2? I think it seemed like they were.
Ken:I mean, I I don't know. With him, right, it's like apparently, there was gonna be, like, 3 albums, and it was gonna be, like, the 8th of each month or some shit, like, for 3 months straight.
Dax:Yeah.
Ken:So it's like a 3 part. It's it's like verse verse vultures 1 versus 2. Yeah. And then, like but, I was fucking shocked that it wasn't on regular Vulture.
Dax:Me too.
Ken:I was like, are you serious? Like What
Dax:do you think of that album now?
Ken:I need I don't I don't really like it. I mean, it's okay, but it's not like like for Pablo caliber.
Dax:Yeah. I didn't like it initially, but I just kept playing it on loop, and now I'm I'm super into it. I was, like, listened to it a bunch of times.
Ken:I like it. I'm just not super into it.
Dax:It's hard to accept that maybe the peak has happened.
Ken:I think everybody's gonna fix that.
Dax:That's not what's on.
Ken:Gonna be that's gonna be such a summer banger.
Dax:That's true.
Ken:When that drops.
Dax:Yeah.
Ken:Can you imagine being, like, fucked up in a hot tub? It's like, oh, he's sex you up. Yeah. I'm like, oh, man. Slam 2 white claws together.
Ken:My wife's like, it's 9 AM.
Dax:Do your kids even listen to music? Are they into that yet? Yeah. Yeah.
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. They listen they listen to a lot of different music. You know what they listen to? They listen to like the background music for their TikTok.
Ken:Oh, yeah. So like, whatever's, whatever is in their TikToks they're into.
Dax:They go and find the song and that's like their, that's how they find music now. Yeah.
Ken:They're like, it it's, it's all the, the soundtrack's all their shit. Right? So like the one is like really into like the stranger thing soundtrack. Which is hilarious. It's, like, a hilarious way to, like, side load classic rock.
Dax:Yeah.
Ken:And then, like, the other one is, like, really into Barbie. So, like, that whole I I don't know what you would call that music.
Dax:Was that a wait. The Barbie soundtrack,
Adam:like, the movie?
Dax:So the movie.
Ken:Barbie soundtrack. So I I have a I have a record player in my living room, You know, like, one of those ones that has, like, the speaker built into
Dax:it. Mhmm.
Ken:So it doesn't really bump. Right? It just kinda, like, plays it at, like, a very casual level. So, like, when they when they're into music, what I'll do is I'll get we'll get the records. So we have, like, a a variety of records of, you know, absolutely classic stuff.
Ken:Then we have, like, some some more recent things, right, that shouldn't even be on records, but they are. Like, Stranger Things soundtrack. You have a Barbie soundtrack. One final thing.
Adam:That stuff on vinyl. That's awesome.
Ken:So me and my wife went to a Snoop Dogg concert and it was fucking awesome. Yeah. But, like, there we ended we said, oh, we gotta get something for the kids. Right? So we went and got, like, this some, like, Snoop Dogg merch.
Ken:Right? So it was like this, like, Snoop hoodie and, like, so just some other shit. Right? And then my my oldest daughter got, like, into Snoop. Oh.
Ken:So now she has the doggy style vinyl. She thinks Snoop is hilarious. We had Snoop on the stoop. She has, like, a she has, like, a Snoop poster in her room.
Dax:But it started with the merch. That's why you gotta, like,
Ken:It started with the merch.
Dax:Concept it. Yeah.
Ken:And you can't just show them music. Right? You need to show them, like, why it's cool. And then they're like, fuck it. I do music.
Ken:I'll take it.
Adam:Okay. I have a clarifying question. Is Snoop on the on the stoop? Is that, like, Elf on the Shelf? Mhmm.
Ken:It's that
Adam:kind of a thing? Like, you put him you just, like, set him on the mantle or something? What do you do with him?
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same kind of thing. Yep.
Ken:And is
Adam:he, like, watching over them and, like, is there some story you tell them? No. They're the kid's older.
Ken:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I say that Snoop on the stoop watches them. And, if they're bad or bad enough that he's gonna he's gonna call some some lokes to pull up and Actually, Snoop does.
Ken:Snoop kind of just chills for the most part. He's not like, I don't, you know, out of respect for Snoop, go and put him in all these elf situations. The other elves, right? It's like it's like, oh, look, look, he fucking, you know, is tied to a candy cane on a ceiling fan. Can.
Ken:I'm gonna do that with Snoop.
Dax:Oh, gotta respect. I feel like Snoop's everywhere because he did that thing with Martha Stewart. He, I remember there was a g this is a long time ago before all this AI voice stuff came out, but he did a voice for your GPS, and he would say shit like That's awesome. Go round and round the roundabout, round and round the roundabout. And just but, yeah, he, like, he, like, just does everything.
Dax:He, like, merchandises the fuck out of himself.
Ken:I always wanted that. I wanted, like, 50¢. And, you know, like, did you ever play the 50¢ video games?
Dax:Yeah, dude. Those are crazy.
Ken:The blood in the sand. Yeah. Well, it was, like, the funniest shit that he would say. He'd be like, hey, man. Watch the fuck out.
Ken:Like, you usually don't get that in video games. Right? Like, that would be so funny for GPS.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That'd be great.
Dax:I mean, now with AI, like, we could probably have whatever we want.
Ken:Those video games were insane. Like, the entire premise. Like, he did a show in in, like, some unspecified Middle Eastern country where they shorted him. Now he's gonna commit murder over it. And there's but they like, somebody he tries to pay him with, like, a bejeweled skull, which is then taken away by, like, a third party who like, he's gotta go get the skull from, but, like, they they run the area.
Ken:And then, yeah, it's just there's, like like, trash cans on fire. He's doing, like, front flips, like, shooting dudes with, like, like, Cali Dan outfits. You're like, what the fuck is going on here? He's just insane. 50¢ blood in the sand.
Ken:I was like, oh, man, dude. This is like
Dax:I swear. It was like I can't tell if it's nostalgia, but I feel like stuff was just more fun
Ken:back then. Like, you would just
Dax:get, like, all this, like, really weird wild shit, and I feel like you don't get that as much anymore.
Ken:I feel like they're they're they're a little bit more decisive about what they put out. Is there
Adam:anything more calculated?
Dax:Yeah. For sure. Like, that that would never have gotten past all the layers that exist today. Not today.
Ken:Yeah. You
Dax:know, speaking of Descent, I was probably late to rap music, but I still remember Indaclub was the first, like, rap song I ever heard. And I was like, holy shit. Like, what is this? Like, I had never heard anything like that in my life.
Ken:Your first exposure to rap?
Dax:I think so. From, like, my it's I, like, have a memory of being, like Oh,
Ken:well, yeah. Yeah. You're crazy. You're, like, 32. Right?
Dax:Yeah. So in the club, I think maybe I was, like, 9 or something.
Ken:I was in, like, high school.
Dax:I'd say it with me.
Adam:I didn't
Dax:even know what the hell he was saying. I was like, I think the lyric is like, sip Bacardi in the club. I thought that was all one word. I thought he was just saying some, like I like gave it some kind of meaning.
Ken:It's funny when you go back and, like, the the lyric is something completely different. You just heard it wrong.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And as a kid, like, I even if I knew the lyrics, like, I didn't know they would fuck said Bacardi in the club meant. So I mean, Ken might have at that age, but I I I didn't.
Adam:Hey. This is Chris, podcast editor. Just letting you know the conversation with Ken Wheeler will continue in the next episode. Here's a little tease of that conversation continued with Ken Wheeler. So what is the answer?
Adam:Who who somebody has the answer. Right? Somebody's looking out for this?
Ken:What what are you gonna adapt to? You gonna adapt to become a plumber? Nobody has money to pay plumbers, And now you have a 100,000,000 new plumbers that just entered like Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's gonna go awesome for plumbers.
