Living Forever, Home Server Fun, Inheritance and Capitalism, and Adam's SST Wishlist

Adam:

I keep tapping the screen to, like, make sure it doesn't go to sleep, and it keeps hiding it on Twitter. I don't know if you've seen this. Man. So people are gonna think I'm just really obsessed with us.

Dax:

Oh, I see. God just

Adam:

love us so much. Wait, but

Dax:

it doesn't show who said it. It just says it's hard. So we should you just keep just keep doing that. Look at

Adam:

that. Look

Dax:

at that. Oh, my god. We're beloved.

Adam:

What are we streaming on? Twitch?

Dax:

No. I put it on Twitter. I remember to, like,

Adam:

Did you turn on chat?

Dax:

Yes. That was critical. And I remember it now.

Adam:

It's critical.

Dax:

Does this work on web? Or is this like purely a mobile thing?

Adam:

I actually just just going to the web to see. I I was gonna

Dax:

check. I have some, like, weird Twitter extension that, like, hides most of the UI. So I can't tell if it's

Adam:

yeah. So my mom watching The Boys, I was heading downstairs, and I was like, I'm gonna go record my podcast. She's like, oh, what's your podcast about? And I was like, I was like, well, we don't, we just talk. And she's like, oh, that's so neat.

Adam:

I'm like Is she

Dax:

gonna listen now? Mom's always listening

Adam:

Maybe.

Dax:

No matter or how irrelevant it is.

Adam:

Yeah. I know. I actually thought she already did, if I'm being honest.

Dax:

So it was a little it

Adam:

was a little moment where I was a little hurt. But it's okay. Why is it so dark where you are? I got brighter and you got darker.

Dax:

Did I get darker?

Adam:

There's no purple light behind you or something. Oh. Your super villain globe is off.

Dax:

I don't know. It looks kinda dull. I don't know what's going on. It it it's on, but it looks I gotta I gotta look into it. I gotta debug it.

Adam:

Well, it could be my screen brightness too. Who knows? Everything I just, like, literally had to sweep cobwebs off of my teleprompter. There's, like, this whole room has been abandoned for the holidays.

Dax:

This is my first day getting back into into things. I I've, like, I've just been in that weird phase where I'm, like, not technically I didn't, like, technically Take a break for the holidays, but Yeah. I kinda did. So everything is kinda nice right now.

Adam:

Yeah. Same. Okay. I found you on Twitter. You are actually streaming.

Adam:

I also don't see the purple light on Twitter. I'm just gonna throw that out there. I miss your purple light, but it's okay.

Dax:

We can move it. Don't worry. I'll bring it back.

Adam:

Okay, Google. Turn on taxes. Oh, we got stuff to talk about today. We actually do have I could've told my mom. Well, mom.

Adam:

We're gonna talk about home labs and hardware and stuff like that.

Dax:

Yeah. So we were talking about this. I I guess we've been talking about this for a couple months because you just did a home lab setup. Do you want me to talk a little bit about that?

Adam:

I did. Twitter is saying that your sound is not working because of Linux. They specifically said Linux. And I said, listen, guys. It's probably an honest mistake.

Adam:

I'm just

Dax:

not used to turning all I'm just not used to doing through all the checks. It's working now. I think they can

Adam:

hear you now. Yeah. No. I same feeling. I feel like I'm forgetting to click so many buttons right now.

Adam:

We have other stuff to talk well, the home lab stuff will be interesting. Is there any news before or, like, anything going on right now?

Dax:

It's been topical, so No.

Adam:

I feel like nothing's happened.

Dax:

It's funny because, so much of my emotions are tied to our business metrics. So they just check them constantly to get a feel for things. And then, Obviously, this past week. There's a reasonable explanation for it. Like, of course, who's gonna sign up for a SaaS product Yeah.

Dax:

On December 28th?

Adam:

The week between Christmas and New Year's. Yeah.

Dax:

But it still feels bad because it's like all the numbers are down. Like I

Adam:

hate the holidays. I really do. It feels

Dax:

like we're making no progress.

Adam:

Yeah. Just so much of my, yeah. It's being excited to wake up every morning is tied to work stuff and when, like, it's just so dead right now. Yeah. There's just nothing to look forward to.

Adam:

But it's January. Got that January boost of motivation. Are you feeling it? I'm feeling it.

Dax:

Am I feeling it?

Adam:

Oh, you're not feeling it.

Dax:

I don't I don't think I've ever been someone that does, like, the okay. It's like a new year. That's, like, reset or, like, you know Yeah. It doesn't feel that way to it's never really felt that way with with to me.

Adam:

I used to feel, like, bad about doing the cliche things in January. I literally went for a run yesterday morning. Like, no joke. January 1st, as cliche as that could be. I used to feel bad about it.

Adam:

Now I just lean into it. It's like, I'm gonna get this boost of energy for the 1st couple months of the year. I gotta take advantage of it. Like, I'm gonna do stuff, and then I'm gonna fall out of all the good habits and whatever.

Dax:

But Yeah. No. I I definitely agree with that. Like, you have to do things that give you temporary productivity boost even if they don't last. Like, because it just It just is helpful, like, changing up your setup.

Dax:

Like Yeah. Like, reworking how your computer works. Like, that gives you, like, a temporary boost for a month. That's useful. And then you do it again in 6 months.

Adam:

So

Dax:

yeah. Liz's family has maybe, like, a Latin tradition. You come up with 12 things you want to come true. And then you eat The 12 grapes that represent each thing, and then you reflect on it the next year. Yeah.

Dax:

Nothing, like, crazy. Like, everyone kinda a lot of people do some form of this. This year we decided to just pull one thing down for each of us.

Adam:

Oh, nice. Aim a little lower.

Dax:

Yeah. And

Adam:

You write it down on a piece of paper that

Dax:

survives how you channel that we put it in. Okay. Because you wanna be on Lizzie's Slack.

Adam:

Yeah. I love it. Like the

Dax:

crazy annoying people we are. Yeah. But there was one that I put down last year that was, like, have full control over Zuko off leash. And this one this one's interesting because a year ago, he was, like, crazy crazy well trained off leash. And we're like it would go everywhere.

Dax:

And, like, it was like Yeah. I was like, oh, I'm gonna have a dog that's, like, totally can be totally off leash. But a couple months after that, like, when he became, like, more mature, He just started having problems with, like, like, 10% of other dogs. And it's like our life has completely changed in terms of how We do stuff with him. Like, we do stuff Yeah.

Dax:

Away from other dogs now. He used to go to dog park every single day for 2 hours back then. So seeing that, I was like, I was like I had this Vision that I thought was gonna happen. And I was reminded that, like, oh, that was, like, completely wrong. And my expectations had to change.

Dax:

And But I didn't like that. So I was like, okay. I don't know if I like this.

Adam:

Yeah. When you said that, I laughed because I've seen the the, like, delivery people coming to your door in those videos. Oh. Zuko getting out and Jitter's fine

Dax:

with people. But that that that one is, Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he is protective of the house. That's,

Adam:

As he should be. That's the whole point.

Dax:

Very good. It's very useful. But it's just yeah. It's just funny because there's always funny situations with delivery people. We have, In the instructions, always, we're like, leave it by the by the gate.

Dax:

Like, they don't come into the house. Mhmm. But, yeah. UPS drivers, FedEx I really like they're always like they they take 2 steps in, and they see him because he does this thing where he, like, flies out the front door like like Superman style. Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah. Because my front doors are usually open.

Adam:

That's terrifying.

Dax:

And then you just see the mic run back and mic shut the gate. And they must deal with this all the time.

Adam:

Oh, yeah. I would think so.

Dax:

Weird part of the job.

Adam:

I know where you live now, kind of. You live close to the water. Sorry. Is that dogging you too much?

Dax:

No. No. No. I mean

Adam:

Okay.

Dax:

Close to the water in Miami. It's not very Close to the water

Adam:

in Miami. There's a lot of places close to the water. Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah. You were, you're coming down for a tournament.

Adam:

I'm trying to decide. So, yeah, I don't wanna go into, like, my health or jujitsu too much again because I just I feel like that's all I ever talk about. But I was thinking about taking some time off because my knee is

Dax:

still really swollen.

Adam:

Oh, yeah. I almost died again. We'll just give a little quick. Ended up in the ER on Christmas Eve, And we had a leg infection. It was probably more serious, but there was no pain.

Adam:

So we didn't see it didn't, like, feel that serious.

Dax:

Mhmm.

Adam:

But, it's still swollen. The infection's mostly gone down. Yeah. I just thought maybe I do need to take some time off. So that's that tournament would be between 2 big tournaments that I'm doing.

Dax:

Oh, I see.

Adam:

I got one in a couple weeks. So we'll see.

Dax:

Yeah. The thing that was confusing about that is that was a purely internal injury, and then it got infected?

Adam:

Yeah. So it's called I didn't know we had these in the human body, bursa sacs. Yeah. It just sounds crazy. Okay.

Adam:

So like little Fluid, they just, like, cushion your joints Mhmm. So you have them in your knee. And I guess I burst 1, and it can get infected when that fluid from the bursa sac

Dax:

It's crazy. It was like life threatening technically, and it didn't really hurt. And it seems so, like, casual, you know.

Adam:

Yeah. And last time I was in there, I was in So much pain, and it probably wasn't that big a deal. So it's very different experience. This time, I had to wait in the waiting room for, like, 3 and a half hours. Last time, they took me straight back because I was like I I felt like I was going to die, and that was clearly in a lot of pain.

Adam:

So different experience. It's probably more serious. Yes. Sepsis is no joke. Mhmm.

Adam:

If if it gets in your bloodstream. Yeah. Anyway, almost died. I'm here. I made it to the new year.

Dax:

Yeah. Then then we would you know how we're Saying, like, maybe the podcast won't come back. Like, it would have been crazy if I was when I did.

Adam:

If I would have died. Yeah. Did we record before that one, though? I think we recorded

Dax:

before that. We did. And that would have been, like, your,

Adam:

The fair value

Dax:

Yeah. They publish like, when when famous musicians die, they publish, like, what's it called? A posthumous or what possumous? I don't know how to say that word. Yeah.

Dax:

It would have been like that.

Adam:

I'm sure our last episode would have been a great, lasting legacy. What did we talk about? Who knows? Oh, yeah. For sale.

Adam:

Yeah. That's what I wanna talk about when I die. Well, it's Home Labs. Let's talk about Home Labs. This stuff is super So you

Dax:

just did a home lab setup?

Adam:

I did. In fact, I had, like, 8 tabs open for months in my Chrome browser. Like, I literally, like, started looking at this a long time ago. And it was like I never wanted to touch those tabs because I knew there's all this important information. I I mean, that's relatable.

Adam:

Right? We all do that. So I had all these, like, home lab I don't

Dax:

do that at all. I don't keep tabs around here.

Adam:

You don't do that? No. Okay. Awesome. Wait.

Adam:

Oh, you don't because you're on Linux, and you just like window manager and do all your

Dax:

No. I just I just hate okay. Here's my issue. I like when I have a bunch of tabs open, I can't find the tabs I care about. So I, like, nuke all my tabs, like, every hour.

Adam:

Oh, like an app if it does it for you?

Dax:

No. I I just, like, clicked in and then

Adam:

You just go through and click them all. I don't

Dax:

get the keeping the tabs around. Like, how do you find I

Adam:

I don't know. I'm a hoarder. I have, like, hoarding tendencies.

Dax:

And this isn't unique. Like, a lot of people talk about keeping tabs around. But my issue is, okay, there's, like, Let's say you have, like, a 100 tabs open. Mhmm. 90 of those tabs are not irrelevant day to day.

Dax:

But there's 10 that are, like, GitHub or, like, Twitter, whatever you're doing. Isn't it annoying just to I

Adam:

understand the problem. Don't know what it is. Yeah. And, like, as I start finally closing them, I'll be like, why? Did I think I was gonna open this tab Like, I think it's more just laziness.

Adam:

I don't even like, I'm not hanging on to all of them. I just forget to close them, and I just open it.

Dax:

It's so weird to me. It's so frustrating when I have more than, like, 5 tabs open.

Adam:

Okay. Well, I had a bunch obsessed for my home lab. And then I finally, well, it was the theater. We did the home theater, and I needed some solutions to some problems in my own theater setup. And a home lab was part of that solution.

Adam:

So I did, like I mean, I already had some network storage.

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

So I have, like, a Synology network storage thing. And and you maybe you're gonna tell me, like, this is bad. And, like, The more I read about stuff on the Internet, about home labs like, I guess, NAS devices are really slow and terrible for, like, using as a home server. But I basically just installed everything on my Synology.

Dax:

Yeah. So

Adam:

I've got, like, all the different stuff now running in Docker containers on Synology, which sounds like it would be really slow. But it hasn't been an issue. Yeah.

Dax:

I mean, it's just it's just like for what you're doing, you don't need, like, the pinnacle performance. If you already had the NAS, it's just like, Why not? For people that don't know what a home app is, I'm realizing, like, it's gonna be a new term. It doesn't mean you have a bunch of servers in your house and you have, you No. It's like it's like a lab.

Dax:

You can, like, toy toy around with stuff. I think a lot could be used for media. My personal experience with Home Labs obsessed. Goes way back. I think I've shared this before, because my dad at one point was experimenting with Hadoop when Hadoop first came out.

Dax:

Man, I don't really understand why this was his process, but he was, like okay. Actually, now thinking back, I forget that, like you know it's easy to forget your parents are, like, normal people just like you?

Adam:

Yeah.

Dax:

I'm, like, this whole time, like, why did he he so he bought, like, a rack. It was maybe, I think, 8 servers And put it in our basement. Had a good electrician come in and, like, have that, like, special plug for the, the UPS. And he, like, used it for 3 months. And he was like, okay.

Dax:

It's it's years now. Like, we've prototyped on it, and he was using it for work. Now looking back, I'm like, oh, yeah. Of course. I would take any excuse to buy a Rakuten server.

Dax:

He probably got his work to pay for or something. Yeah. Yeah. But in the moment, it felt so excessive. But I'm like, oh, he's just like a person just Me?

Dax:

Like, of course.

Adam:

Yeah. Of course.

Dax:

I'm gonna do something excessive like that. But he gave them to me. And he only like, like I said, he only used them for 3 to 6 months. And, that's when I learned, like, how to administer servers and, like, manage a cluster of it. I've always I I liked it.

Dax:

I learned so much from it. It's just convenient to have that there. Yeah. And and they're actually still in there in the basement, and I'm sure they still work. These are probably from 2,000 8 or 9, whenever Hadoop is first coming out?

Dax:

Yes. So, yeah. I missed that. And I'm like, I want some of that Again. So I was, like, looking back into what type of stuff I can get now and how it how it differs.

Dax:

It actually hasn't changed much. It's, like, Still just racks and servers. So do you have, like, a like, a standard server rack in your closet?

Adam:

I've got 2. Yes. So I've got, a rack in my office closet, which, Fun fact. That's where my

Dax:

Fiber terminates.

Adam:

Fiber is terrible. I know. So I've got a big rack there. It's got a bunch of, like, unified network equipment. Nice.

Adam:

Do you

Dax:

have, like, stuff? Is it do you have something besides the switch?

Adam:

Yes. I'm trying to remember what I have in there. So there's the Dream Machine Pro is like The router, I guess. Mhmm. Like, the brain of the whole thing.

Adam:

And then I have a big, yeah, big, UniFi switch. And then there's a Unify RPS, like backup power thing.

Dax:

Okay.

Adam:

There's something else. There's another silver box in there. What does it do? No. That might be it.

Adam:

And then I yeah. And then my Synology and then Fans and power. I don't know. It's a pretty tall rack. There's not that much going on in it.

Adam:

Yeah. In the middle of it, it's pretty open. Yeah. Yeah. And then all my other stuff is in so just off the theater, there's some unfinished bass.

Adam:

I've got a a small, like, half rack

Dax:

Mhmm.

Adam:

In there that's got upset. Amps and that kind of stuff. Yeah. Surround processors and all that.

Dax:

Wait. Your amp fits in A server

Adam:

rack? It does.

Dax:

Are they like the same specs in terms of like the size? Or do you get like rails that like make it fit in there?

Adam:

So there's just little, like, ears that screw

Dax:

on the side.

Adam:

But it basically is shaped as if it were made to fit in a rack. Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah. So I'm thinking about getting a half rack, just to put in. So my desk is way too big. I need to get a new desk that's, like, Less aggressive. I do like having, like, a massive desk area, but it's just not a good use of space because I'd end up putting, like, bullshit on it.

Dax:

Like, stuff that I should just put away in the correct places. So I'm gonna, like, lower the space a little bit. Like, get a smaller desk and put a half rack.

Adam:

Oh, like under your desk? Or just in your Right.

Dax:

They're like a little bit behind it. There's a little bit of space. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Dax:

So here's what I want. And I haven't figured out how to make this exactly upset. So Mhmm. One, I want media stuff because I want media stuff is, like, not hosted locally. This is kind of something you did.

Dax:

So I want a lot of storage. But I also have this dream of, like, doing all my work SSH ed into a server. So that way, when I'm, like, On the go, it's like the same sessions and everything. And I'm not, like, syncing stuff to places.

Adam:

Oh, interesting.

Dax:

But here's my struggle. So a very easy way to do this is, at least for, like, the storage part, you just go to I mean, Probably not an option for you. But if you're in if you're in a city, like, there's just a ton of refurbished server equipment, like, everywhere. Oh, really? So I can get, like, a pretty, like, powerful server for just media stuff.

Dax:

Mhmm.

Adam:

And

Dax:

handle that really well For not too expensive, like, loaded with hard drives, whatever. And it's effectively, you know, similar to, like, an ass you buy Yeah. Off the shelf. But server CPUs are slow. Like Yeah.

Dax:

They just it's not optimized for, like, high clocks. They're optimized for, like, the ECC RAM and and all that stuff that I don't really care about.

Adam:

So they wouldn't be great for, like, software development workflows.

Dax:

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, unfortunately, Most of our software stuff, because we're in the JavaScript, TypeScript world, is all single threaded. Like, you're the things that end up being slow on your computer, like Building your front end with Vite or, your your language server for TypeScript, the stuff that kinda gets slow and annoying. Those are all single threaded. So The the server CPU that I get will have a ton of cores, but it just won't be fast enough.

Dax:

And I'm trying to figure out, like, how do I get Okay. So instead of doing that, like, should I just get a high end desktop CPU and, like, put it in a Yeah. Sensor configuration? But there's a thing I was telling you this morning where I'm, like, I like the idea of building computers, and I've always done that because they're upgradable. But in practice, I, like, rarely ever get to do this because Yeah.

Dax:

My current CPU is an AMD 39100 x, which came out, I don't know, I think, like, 2017 or something. It's been a while and it's due for an upgrade, but the socket is, like, totally different now. So if I'm doing an upgrade, I have to replace Pretty much everything. The motherboard and everything. Yeah.

Dax:

So it's not really an upgrade. And I actually don't it's not for me,

Adam:

it's not really a good

Dax:

cost thing. Like, I derive so much value from this stuff that I don't mind spending on it. It's just I don't immediately know what to do with the old stuff. Yeah. And it just about waste

Adam:

on this. I

Dax:

know somebody could use it, and it feels really wasteful and bad. And I just like I'm just very lost about all this stuff.

Adam:

Yeah. Yeah. You should just buy Macs.

Dax:

But even then,

Adam:

like, what do you do with your old Mac? They're so great. Oh, that's a great question. So I when I went from my Mac mini

Dax:

Mhmm.

Adam:

To my Mac

Dax:

studio Studio. Yeah. I left my

Adam:

Mac mini attached under my desk, and it's just sitting there doing nothing.

Dax:

Exactly. I

Adam:

just I just remembered that. Exactly. It's still just still there. It's just there.

Dax:

And then let's say you upgrade because now now there's, like, the m 3 or whatever. Yeah. Let's say you wanna go for that. What are you gonna do with your studio now?

Adam:

I don't know. Maybe I'll send it to to someone who needs it. Maybe I'll do a giveaway. Yeah. That's generally what I do.

Adam:

And

Dax:

I gave away so I used to have, I used to have this funny thing where when I used to travel between Miami and New York, I had half a PC that I would keep in, Miami, which was, like, all the parts except for the graphics card and the RAM because they were expensive and easy to travel with. So I was just Did

Adam:

Did you just carry them with it?

Dax:

Yeah. I was carrying them back and forth and plug it in and it

Adam:

will get to go.

Dax:

But now that I live here full time, I'm like, I have a computer left. So I found someone to give that away to. Yeah. In Miami. But it's just like I tend to look into this more because I just have a ton of electronics that I know that Someone who knows what they're doing can, like, extract the value out of it and, like, put them in the right place.

Dax:

And I have seen some recycling companies here. I just haven't haven't talked to them yet. But I have so much stuff, and it just feels bad when it piles up.

Adam:

It does feel bad. No. I I feel you. Why why do you, so I'm just thinking about the server thing, like, upset getting a PC but running it as a server. Why not just having a desktop PC like you do, and doing, like, network thing.

Adam:

Yeah. I use Tailscale.

Dax:

Yeah. I use Tailscale too. Yeah. Okay.

Adam:

Yeah. So can you just, like, SSH into your like, when you're traveling from your laptop. Yeah. Does that just work?

Dax:

That actually is what I do right now.

Adam:

Okay.

Dax:

But, yeah, for me, it's more around this. Like, I wanna Like, my CPU right now is too slow for the work that I do. I can I need to upgrade it? So I'm trying to figure out I'm more trying to figure out the

Adam:

upgrade thing. It's hard.

Dax:

I know.

Adam:

It's really it's upset. Thick. It's heavy.

Dax:

I see. It's just crazy how much Hard work.

Adam:

Power it takes. Running JavaScript.

Dax:

It's just the TypeScript language server at the end of the day. It's it's really just that. And if anyone in the world is willing to take on that task of Fixing it.

Adam:

I mean, Donnie, he is. Right? He's just maybe he burned out. But he was.

Dax:

I feel like that I feel like it, like, ruined his life.

Adam:

It killed his soul. Yeah.

Dax:

He just drained him up. At all anymore.

Adam:

What about j, js doc or whatever it's called?

Dax:

So that's that's just using the TypeScript They're underneath everything. Yeah.

Adam:

What's the thing that the Svelte code base did?

Dax:

Yeah. That's that's using so it Yeah.

Adam:

Still uses TypeScript.

Dax:

People call it JSDoc, but it's actually TS doc. Because a lot of the syntax it uses, like, is just TypeScript syntax. So you need the it's all built up on top of that gigantic TypeScript file.

Adam:

I thought this was, like, to get away from the big TypeScript compiler thing.

Dax:

Well, it gets you away from having a build step.

Adam:

Okay.

Dax:

And I'm not I'm I'm not like complaining about building my JavaScript. I don't do that that often, but it's more the language server.

Adam:

Yeah. Just the editor experience.

Dax:

Yeah. And this isn't my fault because I go Really overboard with types and stuff. I just put myself into good situations.

Adam:

I'm not even good at TypeScript. You don't just yeah. You don't do what I do, which is just Use whatever other people make.

Dax:

Yeah. Well, if if you're, like, building a library, you just have to. And it's just yeah. But it's just fast on the m threes. Just fasten the M Pro.

Adam:

Oh, m 3? Yeah. I I just saw that that oh, I you got you've said something about Apple, and I end up opening the Apple with the store. Because I wanna know if the Vision Pro is available yet. It's not.

Adam:

But then I saw the m 3 and the MacBook Pros, and I was like, do I have an m 3? I just got my MacBook Pro. I don't even know. And that's not like me. But before I say don't say anything else.

Adam:

I'm gonna forget. Don't let me get off this podcast episode without asking for a laundry list of things I need from you, because I have that list, and I'm gonna do it publicly just to put more pressure on. Okay. We can keep going.

Dax:

I'll let it

Adam:

work out.

Dax:

Homelands. I have no idea What you mean by that? But I'm looking forward to figuring

Adam:

out what happened. I have things I need from you. And I just thought I would ask for them here in this format. It's better than sending VMs. Nice.

Adam:

I I'm gonna probably already ask for them on DMs.

Dax:

But Back to the home lab. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm trying to figure this out, and I yeah. It's just it's just I don't maybe what I want is impossible. So for a while, I was trying to, like, rent servers that were in Miami, so, like, very low latency. Oh.

Dax:

That way someone else deals with upgrades. Right? Like, they figure out Yeah. This is old. I'm sure they find a way to, like, reuse it another way.

Dax:

And I can just upgrade the newest one. But, like, I don't know. It just it just ended up sticking.

Adam:

So you actually rent, like, a specific sort like, you could go visit it if you wanted to.

Dax:

Yeah. Well, it's, I found this one hosting company where you just, like, pick how many cores you want and, like, they, They do pay per core?

Adam:

Mhmm. And I

Dax:

don't need like I said, I don't need a lot of cores. I just need a few really fast ones. So I had, like, a 6 core thing, and that was, like, reasonably priced. Of course, it'd be cheaper if I bought it and, like, hosted it myself. Like, after a year and a half, you break even or something.

Dax:

But again, it's the upgrades that

Adam:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dax:

That kill me. And I'm like, what is the future of all this? Don't know.

Adam:

The cloud. Right? I don't know.

Dax:

I maybe. I want it to be, but it just it just is not sticking.

Adam:

Yeah. Have you ever used any of the, like, Cloud IDEs. It just feels so sacrilegious to me to not configure my own, like, machine to run my own tools. Just like open up a browser window and be like, there it is. Yeah.

Adam:

I can do that. I can't either.

Dax:

It's just slow. Like, at the end of the day, it's just slow. I

Adam:

Is it slow? I haven't even tried.

Dax:

Yeah. So I think when I was figuring out the server set up, the the one I'm renting currently, I was trying out all different options. I even tried, like, Amazon's workspaces thing.

Adam:

Oh, yeah.

Dax:

That is so slow. Mhmm. So so so so slow. Then that's just a good that's a good flow. Like slow

Adam:

to boot into a workspace? Is that what the problem?

Dax:

Just clicking and the latency Oh, everything is so slow. I gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I've also ruined my own life because I spent so much time, like, 1 inch from my Screen, like, clicking around linear and, like, observing all the interactions and how long they take.

Dax:

And now I can just perceive, like, The smallest delay. You're so

Adam:

much more sensitive to it. Yeah.

Dax:

I just can't enjoy anything. I I can enjoy, like, 2 apps, And everything else feels slow. That's why I'm always complaining to everyone on Twitter all the time because I want your apps to be faster. Because I use your apps, And I hate them because I can see all these little all these little delays and stuff.

Adam:

So local first. Bad for your health. Yeah.

Dax:

It's not a

Adam:

good idea.

Dax:

For your health. Don't don't don't study it As hard as I did. It's funny. Yeah. But you're happy with your setup then?

Adam:

I'm I'm happy with it. Yeah. I'm running a ton of stuff. But I'm just Starting to think, like, we would not have any overlap with what we use our home lab for. Like, you just wanna do software dev on

Dax:

your own. No. No. But I have I have media stuff too.

Adam:

You oh, you do the media stuff Yeah. Right.

Dax:

So right now, because right now, that's remote hosted, and I want it want it local. Just vague media stuff is as specific as we're gonna get. Well, I've also been filming a lot more stuff in my iPhone with the with the ProRes and the

Adam:

Oh, yeah?

Dax:

Yeah. So I wanna, like, use it as a media site.

Adam:

Does it take up a lot of space?

Dax:

I've heard

Adam:

about this.

Dax:

Yeah. It's pretty big. I feel like it's not Yeah. Necessary, though. They have, like, a few options.

Dax:

They have ProRes and, like, HEVC. HEVC is like so much smaller. And I cannot tell the difference. Like, it looks so good, both of them.

Adam:

Well, isn't the advantage like ProRes When you're editing with certain tools, it's just a lot faster from, like, an editor standpoint. I think so. That was the draw that I remember my videographer roommate from college Told me, like, if you shoot everything in ProRes, then when you put it in the I don't remember which tool. I think Premiere. But I wanna I guess The Apple what what's the Apple?

Adam:

Yeah. Final Cut. Yeah. It's just a lot faster to edit

Dax:

progress files versus, like,

Adam:

compressed stuff.

Dax:

I don't know. I

Adam:

didn't know that.

Dax:

Yeah. Well, so that's what I'm saying. I wanna so I bought, I went super deep into, like, using your iPhone as, Like, what's the craziest setup you can get with an iPhone 15 camera? Yeah. Because it it is quite crazy.

Dax:

And we we all saw that, Apple event where they filmed the whole thing on iPhone. Yeah. Really impressive. Crazy. Obviously, they had, like, the best lighting people in the world work on it.

Dax:

But

Adam:

Right.

Dax:

Even so, Pretty impressive. And yeah, there's a whole world. Like, they sell these, like, they're called they're called cages. Like, you can put your It's like

Adam:

a case,

Dax:

basically. But, like, you can

Adam:

On your iPhone.

Dax:

All this stuff. And it has, like, these two handles to, like, hold it steady and stuff. So I bought a 1 terabyte SSD so I can just record a ton to it. They even have, like, these nice shotgun mics that you can attach to it that look really good.

Adam:

From your iPhone? How do you Is it plugged in to oh, USB c?

Dax:

Well, you get you you also get, so the setup it's it's so crazy, like, the the setups that people have because they attach so many There's 3s to it and just becomes, like, super high end setup. They get they get, like, a USB c hub, and they plug in a mic to it. They plug in

Adam:

Oh, wow.

Dax:

The hard drive to it. They even yeah. It's, pretty crazy what people do.

Adam:

I've gone too I've gone too deep, like you with the local first. I've gone too deep into camera stuff.

Dax:

Right.

Adam:

It just seems like it could never be as good.

Dax:

Probably not.

Adam:

Like and, like, when you say a mic in USB c, I'm like, how could it not know? If It's not XLR. Get out.

Dax:

But, like, what do I

Adam:

know about that?

Dax:

Okay. Also, for the mic, I have I'm using the Tenicle. So that's completely separate. The one that the one that you recommended to me.

Adam:

Yeah. This one right here.

Dax:

That was

Adam:

probably a bad recommendation. But yeah. Really? No. It's good for It's not good for streaming as we discussed.

Dax:

This isn't meant for streaming. It's meant

Adam:

for Yeah. Just for yeah. Just for reporting.

Dax:

Yeah. But here's here's actually why I like this setup. So one, I feel like with my research, you can't beat this setup unless you go for, like, a 3,000 plus dollar camera. I think that's, like, when you start to really be able to tell. Yeah.

Dax:

But this is so versatile. Like, I don't like, I don't feel like it's like so easy for me to carry around. It's like can shift to a bunch of situations.

Adam:

While you're recording, you could get Phone call from your mom. That's awesome. What could go wrong?

Dax:

My mom doesn't call me.

Adam:

Versatile. Oh, well, I'm sorry.

Dax:

Different problem.

Adam:

I don't know.

Dax:

I just like it. I like the portability. I like that I already have this phone. And, I'm like because, because, you know, phones are so expensive and I wanna feel like I'm, like, getting the value out of it. So doing this helps me feel that way.

Dax:

But, yeah, so that's another reason why I wanted the home lab so I can store I can dump stuff there Yeah. And I get it, on my computer.

Adam:

Yeah. I'm running I just pulled up like my all the containers that are running my home app so I could remember what I'm doing with it. Because I couldn't remember anything outside the media. But, like, the Home Assistant stuff and HomeBridge.

Dax:

Oh, I have Home Assistant too. Yeah.

Adam:

Do you use Homebridge?

Dax:

No. That's for the Apple. That's for the Apple Kids stuff. Okay. Here's what I love about the Home Assistant.

Dax:

I don't have to worry about any of that stuff because oh, wait. You don't have the you didn't buy the actual home assistant device, did you?

Adam:

Oh, no. No. I'm just running it on my my NAS.

Dax:

Okay. So the the physical hardware, It's not very expensive, and it's great because it has every possible radio that you need. Like, the z wave,

Adam:

the z wave Oh, it actually has All of it. So you

Dax:

don't Don't worry about the crazy mess that is, like, the IoT space. You just add any device, and it just works.

Adam:

Interesting. Okay.

Dax:

Because they'll use the right Protocol for whatever.

Adam:

My the reason I went in the home, home bridge route is that I wanted to set up some shortcuts on iOS, And that requires it working with HomeKit. Yeah. And home turns out nothing works with HomeKit. So you need HomeBridge, which is like the home assistant equivalent for Apple, I think.

Dax:

Right.

Adam:

It's like an open source.

Dax:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Adam:

It's such a mess, though.

Dax:

I know.

Adam:

Like, Trying to get I've spent so many hours now trying to get a few things that we can't get our shades. Like, I just I wanna just have an easy life where when I take my phone off the charger morning. Things happen. And it turns out that's it can't happen. Not in 2024.

Dax:

Really? Because because home kit or or sorry. Home assistant's automation stuff is very good. I feel like I can control anything.

Adam:

Home assistant? Well, if I could trigger a home assistant thing from, upset. Like, actions related to my phone, like my location. Oh, I can?

Dax:

Yeah. Because your your phone shows up as a device in home assistant, and your phone has Quote unquote sensors. So, like, there's like a bullion sensor for whether it's charging or not. So you can set up an automation that's like

Adam:

Are you kidding me? If it

Dax:

goes from Charging to not charging within these hours, like, trigger these things. So that's why Home Assistant's So I've been trying

Adam:

to do all this with the shortcuts thing and iOS, just assuming they had some advantage. They could do stuff in there. But no.

Dax:

This is exactly why I moved also because the, the Google Home equivalent. Like, they have these, like, automations things, and it's just so, like it just can't do anything complicated. It's, like, way too basic. Yeah. So I entirely ejected out of that.

Dax:

And what's great about Home Assistant is, you can still, like so you, like, add all your devices to Home Assistant. Home says it knows about every single time. Literally, my car is in there. Like, it knows, like

Adam:

Wow.

Dax:

The state of my car. It

Adam:

has status

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

Stuff from your car?

Dax:

And then you can Expose those to all these, like, Apple, iOS, Google Home ecosystems Where, like, they see they think they're directly connected to these devices, but they're not. Because Home Assistant is the one that's it's like a proxy.

Adam:

Okay. I need to get better at this. Yeah. Better at Home Assistant.

Dax:

And, and then you just have all your automations in in home assistant. And yeah. We have, like, we have a couple of funny ones. I have one that That alerts us if we leave the house and both of our bedroom and Liz's office doors are closed. The reason we need this alert is, if we leave them closed, we We probably accidentally trapped one of the cats in there.

Adam:

Oh, the cats. And if

Dax:

we that happens long enough, we're gonna come back to a poop in our bed. So Oh, no. Critical critical automation there.

Adam:

It's funny. I do I I guess I do have some setup. Like, when I but I'm not using Home Assistant. I gotta do the Home Assistant thing. But when I, like, put my phone down on my charger at night and I'm at home, it does, like, the 4 things I always have to do every night.

Adam:

It's, like, turn on the alarm. Mhmm.

Dax:

Because we

Adam:

used to have the alarm, like, at a certain time, but then it's like Our bed chain our schedule changes, and it's like so I just have it. It turns on the alarm, it turns on the sound machine, it puts in sleep mode, all that kind of stuff. It's really nice to not have that mental overhead of, like, checklist things I gotta go through.

Dax:

Yeah. Yeah. So I definitely recommend buying the homocyst in yellow Hardware. Just like I'm a homelessness. It finally gets you out of this mess of like, is this compatible with this?

Dax:

And is that compatible with that?

Adam:

Would it work from like a basement corner of the house? Would it connect to stuff?

Dax:

Well, because it's it's all it's all mesh. Right? So as long as you can reach one device, you can reach all of them.

Adam:

Okay.

Dax:

Yeah. And you can put it anywhere. It doesn't have to be near all your other stuff because it's not like high bandwidth or anything. It doesn't have to be hardwired in. Yeah.

Dax:

You can go WiFi. Yeah.

Adam:

It It can be all WiFi.

Dax:

Yeah. Okay. It's like plugging in your office somewhere, it'll probably be fine. Alright.

Adam:

I can't wait to get rid of HomeBridge forever because it's awful. So bad.

Dax:

This stuff is complicated.

Adam:

Okay. I have things I need from you. I'm just gonna I'm gonna lay them all out here. One, when when is the data stuff gonna get good? AWS released the the data data what's it called?

Adam:

Data API? For serverless v2.

Dax:

Or serverless v2. They deprecated Aurora serverless v 1. Are they, like, force upgrading everyone in a year or something? Or a couple months? I forgot what it was.

Adam:

When can I expect this to make it into the SST construct? Right? Or will it be a new construct?

Dax:

It's gonna be a new construct. So we're I was trying to figure out how to name this stuff moving forward. I think we're gonna have, like, an ssd dot my sequel And std dot postgres is separating them out. So I think there's enough differences between the 2 that it makes sense. And we realized, like, going with, like, recognizable names It's much better than doing dot r d s.

Dax:

Yeah. Like, what is an r d s?

Adam:

Yeah. So we

Dax:

are yeah. We are looking into that. It only supports Postgres right now, I think the data API v 2

Adam:

They said they were gonna fast fall with MySQL.

Dax:

Yeah. And then you guys are using Postgres. Correct? Yes. Yeah.

Dax:

Cool.

Adam:

And we're using serverless v too. So we could start using we could swap out our RDS proxy with, the data is.

Dax:

Yeah. It's nice that the RDS proxy is no longer a thing. Or has to be a thing. That is great. I'm excited for the setup.

Dax:

I need we need to figure out though what we recommend for like dev environments and stuff because Oh. The features and scale to 0.

Adam:

Yeah. Right.

Dax:

And I think the minimum ends up being like $60.

Adam:

So just local?

Dax:

Well, there's like PR, ER environments and stuff. Like, a lot of people use that workflow. Mixed

Adam:

enough, like, PR environments. Yeah.

Dax:

Dozens of feature branch stuff. Yeah. I I don't really care about scale to 0 Anywhere except for that use case. Like this. For that.

Adam:

Yeah. It does matter. Yeah.

Dax:

So we might like we should have a good set up where maybe you can just have one, And you can, like, create a database per feature branch or something.

Adam:

Okay. So no time commitment. You're just gonna you're gonna vaguely wait for your time.

Dax:

No time commitment.

Adam:

This is This is probably, like, competing with Ion, isn't it? Like, you got Ion

Dax:

It's gonna be in Ion. I don't think it's gonna be in SST. It's not gonna be in.

Adam:

So I'll be on Ion when I get to take advantage of all this.

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

I guess I could, like, probably hack my way around and start using it.

Dax:

Yeah. You can put yeah. You can use it directly. Because we don't to be honest, we don't do much on top.

Adam:

Yeah. That con that construct by pretty light.

Dax:

We actually no. We used to have to hang on. What do we do? So I think that the setup we do is we make Your data API is turned on. We create its own VPC because most people don't have a VPC at all outside of this.

Dax:

But that's not the case for you. You already have one. So We already have one. I don't know if we would be doing much for you there.

Adam:

Yeah. I might just do it manually or something. Yeah. We'll see. Okay.

Adam:

Other thing I need Is the secret prefetcher. When is that? When is that come?

Dax:

Yeah. I know. Frank told me, tell Adam he'll have it before 2024. And

Adam:

Look at that service.

Dax:

And it's 2024.

Adam:

It's 2024. I don't have it. But I

Dax:

know. Maybe he did put

Adam:

it in a release, and I just haven't updated.

Dax:

It's been, like, basically done forever. So I don't know why it hasn't come out. But yeah. I know that, like, saves you guys a ton of money. So it is a priority.

Adam:

Yeah. I realized I could have done this after the podcast. But, I miss you too, Bertrand. I don't even care if this is the podcast and I'm talking to people on stream. Don't stream anymore, so I have to do this.

Adam:

I mean, I might stream. I'm not saying I'm never You

Dax:

know, I did dream yesterday. We were recording our podcast, but it was 4 of us? Ken Wheeler was one of them. I don't remember who the 4 people were. I remember we were, like, laughing a lot, and it seemed really good.

Dax:

And I was sad

Adam:

Four people sounds chaotic.

Dax:

Yeah. But somehow, it was like fine.

Adam:

It was it worked? Yeah. I don't

Dax:

think it would work in real life. But in my dream, it worked.

Adam:

You know, I've had this that that just brings up Some insecurities of mine that I have to just get out in the open. I've had this feeling, like, the 2 I've been to, like, 2 tech conferences now.

Dax:

Mhmm.

Adam:

2? 3? Did I go to 3? I don't know. 2 or 3.

Dax:

You've been to ReInvent?

Adam:

Oh, I went to TwitchCon. Yeah.

Dax:

You've been to ReInvent, TwitchCon and TwitchCon.

Adam:

And render. Yeah. So I've been to some real life events, and I've gotten to hang out with some friends. And I just don't feel like I have a personality. Like, I literally don't feel like I when in person.

Adam:

I already felt like that online. Like, I don't know. I I can't talk about it anymore because I'm just insecure about it. I can't talk about things I'm insecure

Dax:

about. What do you mean you don't have personality?

Adam:

You

Dax:

have a very distinct personality.

Adam:

I don't have a

Dax:

I really don't. No. Really?

Adam:

I just don't. Maybe it's only in very small settings. I have a personality 1 on 1, And that's it. But as

Dax:

soon as it's a group, you're just like Yeah.

Adam:

Because you're pretty much like

Dax:

2 or

Adam:

3 people. I'm just like, okay. You guys are interesting. I'm just gonna be here

Dax:

hanging out.

Adam:

Upset. It

Dax:

just sounds like you're an introvert.

Adam:

Is that what it is? Okay. I would love to just be able to say it's because I'm an introvert. That That sounds way better.

Dax:

Your personality. Like, this this this cycle reaction to me saying that, that's definitely your personality is. You're like, wait. There's a label that fully Explains everything? Like, yes, please.

Dax:

That that's your personality.

Adam:

Okay. Coming out right there. Well, that I guess that doesn't come up in the group settings. Yeah. Yeah.

Adam:

I don't know. I feel pretty uncomfortable. Like, I like being around people. I just like people. I feel like I I generally like people, And I have people close to me in my life that generally don't like people.

Adam:

Like, given the choice between liking a person and not liking the person, they're probably not gonna like the person by default. I feel like by default, I just like people, even the people that other people don't like. So it's not that. It's not that I don't wanna be around people. I love it.

Adam:

But there's just something about being in a group setting. I just feel uncomfortable.

Dax:

You know what it is? I think it's actually very simple. It's something you need to practice. And if you're not practiced out because I feel the exact same way. I've gone through periods in my life where I've been, like, not in group settings for a while, and I'll go into one and they'll just I feel like I can't get, like, a word in.

Dax:

Or like my brain is just kind of blank.

Adam:

Yeah. Blank.

Dax:

So I think it's really just Just that. And there's been times where I've, like, been doing it more, and I've become very comfortable. And then I stop, and then I I lose practice. So I think if I think some people naturally are, like, Very good at that stuff. But I'm also technically an introvert.

Dax:

So I kinda lose practice, and I I kinda relate to that.

Adam:

I feel like Re re:Invent wasn't as bad because you were there, and it was like there I didn't feel a pressure to, like like, we could just talk and hang out, and then other people people would come around, and we'd be around other people. And it was just easy. Are we wearing the same color shirt?

Dax:

I'm wearing a sweater. Look at this. I'm in Miami. I'm wearing a sweater.

Adam:

Is that like a maroon? In Miami. Is that maroon?

Dax:

Yeah. It is maroon.

Adam:

So am I. Wow. Look at that. Can you tell?

Dax:

Yeah. No. I noticed right away.

Adam:

We've been talking for 43 minutes, and I just realized, we've got the same shirt on.

Dax:

Look at that. You're you're great at conversation.

Adam:

I'm so good at this. Don't be a part of yourself. Okay. Well, I don't feel any better than I did when I first brought up my insecurities. But, I'm gonna take your word for it.

Adam:

I can practice.

Dax:

Hey, you

Adam:

just not practiced.

Dax:

Why why would you be good at that? Yeah.

Adam:

Why would I be good at that? If you don't practice. I practice a lot of jujitsu. I'm not good at it either. Maybe I'm not good at at practicing.

Adam:

I don't know. I can't wait for React Miami. Like, all the things I just set aside, The part where I hate being around groups of people, and I feel very uncomfortable, and I feel like I don't have a personality, and I'd question everything. Aside from all of that, I'm so excited. I feel like everyone's going.

Dax:

I gotta figure out the dates and everything. I think there may I I I wanted to Throw like a little event, like before it starts. Oh. Like maybe in my house.

Adam:

Free. Like party.

Dax:

They're just picturing I was like vision in my head where like All of the weirdos from Twitter are just like, staying around my front yard. And it's like so funny to me that I, like, wanna make it happen.

Adam:

I love it. Please make it happen.

Dax:

Because I think the way it works is, I think everyone's gonna arrive on the 1st day, there's nothing. There's technically, like the Their conference like React Miami is embedded into a bigger conference called Emerge Americas. Mhmm. And I think the first day that Everyone's gonna arrive. There's not any, like, pure react Miami stuff

Adam:

going on.

Dax:

I think Guillermo is giving a talk at the Emerge one. Mhmm. Don't care about that. So, so I'm like, oh, if if people arrive early enough the first day, I can do, like, like, a mid afternoon outdoor thing upset. Yes.

Dax:

At my house. And just invite, like, everyone that we know. That'd be pretty fun.

Adam:

That would be so fun. Miami in bro. Right? It's in April.

Dax:

That'll be great. That'll be great weather. Yeah.

Adam:

So it won't be disgusting. Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

It's not till, like, May, June. Right? I think it's so gross.

Dax:

Yeah. It'll be perfect.

Adam:

Ugh. Let's make it happen. I'd fly in a day early if it needs to be a day early. I'm sure a lot of people would.

Dax:

Yeah. Yeah. If I can, like, get it together ahead of time. Here's my only issue. My only issue is I only have one bathroom.

Dax:

And we've never had like a large thing at our house because I don't know if it can handle the throughput.

Adam:

Yeah. No. Let's just rent some porta potties.

Dax:

Well, that's the thing. Like, should I rent a porta potty? Is that is that weird?

Adam:

Are there, like, upper class ones? Sorry. That sounded awful.

Dax:

There are.

Adam:

There are like I figured there had to be.

Dax:

There are like fancier ones, which are basically just I think they show up in like a

Adam:

A trailer?

Dax:

A trailer. And it's just a bathroom.

Adam:

Yes. That's

Dax:

just like on

Adam:

the back

Dax:

of a trailer.

Adam:

It's just a bathroom on wheels. Yeah. I've been in 1. Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah. The other thing is here's another option, and we can make it really big because right across the street from me, there is an empty lot. The reason it's empty is the person who purchased it many years ago, knocked down the house and was planning on building 2, like, duplexes on Twitter to sell. But this person ended up being indicted for running up, like, a $100,000,000 real estate fraud. They got, like a crazy place.

Dax:

Like, just massive massive massive massive. So this empty lot has just been sitting there with the court owns it. And my landlord has a key to the gate, and he opens it every once in a while for if you're having a party, people can park there. But I'm like, you can just also have the party right there.

Adam:

Just have it there.

Dax:

So that's another option as well.

Adam:

Just a big empty lot? What would we what would you put on it?

Dax:

Just like just like, like party

Adam:

Like lawn chairs?

Dax:

Yeah. Party stuff. Just at the bar and yeah. I mean, it depends on what

Adam:

I go

Dax:

to a lot of parties. I think I I

Adam:

have no further questions. I can imagine exactly what it will be like.

Dax:

A bouncy castle. Like, I don't know what what are you Okay.

Adam:

Now we're done. Those are the kind of parties I've been to. Like, kids parties.

Dax:

Yeah. And it's it's funny. That lot is actually my landlord who's in his who's 60 now, grew up on the house that was on that lot. Like, he's been moving in the area 6. And, he's he's been on the same street since then.

Dax:

He's seen all the change

Adam:

that was That's crazy.

Dax:

Just like Of the street in the neighborhood. It's it's really insane.

Adam:

I'm so curious how he has a key.

Dax:

I don't know. He's just one of those guys that just has has Like, he's been around forever. He Don't ask questions. Yeah.

Adam:

It's like our media server. Don't ask questions. It's vague. It has a key. It's fine.

Dax:

Yeah. So I'm very excited. And Prime was also saying he wanted to do like a stream with do you remember do you remember when he talked to a bunch of people? And then

Adam:

Oh, I do remember. Yeah. When you guys are

Dax:

all gonna do your thing.

Adam:

You're a little strange.

Dax:

And then you go, hey, it's fine.

Adam:

The peace I was proud to be on

Dax:

that list. I was literally the last one that he tagged. And I was like, what the hell? Why Laxon?

Adam:

That's awesome.

Dax:

I think he wanted I was like, oh, if we're all gonna be around for

Adam:

Oh, React Miami.

Dax:

Be together in person at React Miami, we can do a nice My stream, also a really good location to do that. And if we end up doing it, if it's like just like the 10 people.

Adam:

I'm so glad Prime goes to all these front end things. Like

Dax:

Why is he going to fly?

Adam:

Otherwise we'd never see him.

Dax:

I don't know. Why is he going? That's funny. Yeah. Well, I don't do

Adam:

a react thing.

Dax:

Yeah. So me, Prime, Theo and one other person are gonna be streaming the whole 1st day, and only Theo does react.

Adam:

That's awesome. Are you wearing your solid shirt? Okay. That

Dax:

no. Okay. Here's the thing.

Adam:

I

Dax:

do wanna wear I have I have an original Solid JS sweater.

Adam:

Oh.

Dax:

And it's I say original because I think they don't make them anymore. They're limited edition. Sorry. Tell anyone they didn't grab it. And I love it.

Dax:

I think it looks great. I think the font is great. And the logo is great. But I don't want to wear a sweatshirt In April in Miami.

Adam:

Yeah. There's not a lot of times in Miami you can wear a sweatshirt. I mean, you're wearing one right now, but, like

Dax:

It's cold. Is it? Because

Adam:

because it was we I just saw we had, like, the warmest December. It was like the 5th warmest December ever where I live.

Dax:

Yeah. Well, it it got down to 60 degrees here. Oh, my word. Stop it.

Adam:

You've done this before.

Dax:

I literally got sick. I'm literally sick right now because

Adam:

Oh, yeah. You're sick. Yeah.

Dax:

I feel

Adam:

very sorry. I feel very sorry. I should have been nicer to you on this whole call. You took Advil, Yeah.

Dax:

It was cold. And I got sick. Sixty degrees is what it takes now. I'm getting sick.

Adam:

I'm sorry. You got a cold and 60 degree weather in Miami. You poor thing. I've never taken Advil in my life. I just realized, like, I'm an Ibuprofen man, I guess.

Dax:

Advil is Ibuprofen, isn't it?

Adam:

Oh, is it?

Dax:

I'm pretty sure Advil is Ibuprofen. It's it's brand name.

Adam:

Well, then what's Ibuprofen?

Dax:

You don't get the brand name stuff. Oh, I

Adam:

can't afford your fancy Advil.

Dax:

Advil is just Ibuprofen.

Adam:

Oh, how

Dax:

about that? What do you take? Is it generic?

Adam:

I used to take just Ibuprofen. I don't know. It's called Ibuprofen. It's like on the bottle, it says I have a problem. But, like,

Dax:

was there like a logo that comes in?

Adam:

No. I don't take it anymore because I think it messes up

Dax:

my Stomach?

Adam:

Yes. Yeah. Is that a thing? Yeah.

Dax:

That's a thing.

Adam:

For YouTube? Yeah. Not for you.

Dax:

But it It is a

Adam:

good thing. Yeah.

Dax:

For other people. Yeah.

Adam:

For weaker people? I actually think it's what caused, my 1st ER visit. Yeah. Because I was taking a lot of Ibuprofen.

Dax:

Yes.

Adam:

And I think I do not handle it well.

Dax:

Yeah. That's a biggie.

Adam:

Yeah. It was, like, beginning of my jujitsu stuff, so I was very sore all the time. So I was popping Advil or sorry, Ibuprofen.

Dax:

That stuff is a miracle. It works really well. Like, can you imagine I was talking to Elizabeth about this other day that, what did people do before They were just in pain all the time?

Adam:

All the time, I guess.

Dax:

Yeah. Insane.

Adam:

I mean, they also died really early. Right? People just died of stuff. Like, you got the flu, and you just died.

Dax:

Well, if you're in pain all the time, it's kinda a relief to die.

Adam:

That's true. Also kinda permanent. What do you think about all the people? I feel like it's more Like, public than ever, all of the, like, anti aging, never gonna die stuff. People people are on this.

Dax:

Yeah. Well, many people Me and Liz were talking about this too because, the whole Brian Johnson thing. Here I don't know why people get so upset at him because He's basically running an experiment that's gonna be very useful for the world. He's spending $2,000,000 a year

Adam:

Uh-huh.

Dax:

Running his experiment. Okay. It's it's selfish to wanna live forever. But let's be real, we all want to.

Adam:

Yeah. Sure.

Dax:

And he's just really funny. I find him hilarious. So I

Adam:

do too. I actually do. I know a lot of people don't like him. And I get, like, The things that they poke at, but, like, I I just think he's quirky, and it's it's funny

Dax:

to me.

Adam:

The the whole, $2,000,000 a year thing, it's like, I feel like the the stuff they're gonna uncover over the next 5 years, like, we all, for pennies, can get 80% of the benefit. You know? Like, we don't have to We don't have to measure ourselves and do all these things once they uncover whatever they uncover about aging and health. So I think it's really awesome.

Dax:

Yeah. Me too. It's like and he's living such a Crazy extreme life to, like, do this? Yeah. It's it's good for the world.

Dax:

Oh, yeah.

Adam:

Can you imagine? Yeah. Like, just the way Everything that goes in your body, like, all the food you eat being so calculated, that's not easy. Like, it's not an easy existence. So, yeah.

Adam:

Hats off to Brian Johnson.

Dax:

Yeah. I don't hate him like everyone else. But, I also don't think I know people poke at him, but I feel like his responses are so good. I feel like you She can't make fun of him because you'll just his response is just make fun of himself even better than you just did. So Yeah.

Dax:

Yeah. Yeah. I saw one the other day where they were like, they were making fun of him for something. And they were like, oh, imagine being 40 and caring about this stuff. And then he responds going, what do you mean?

Dax:

I'm 20. I'm barely legal.

Adam:

Just biological age.

Dax:

What are you

Adam:

doing? Did he, like,

Dax:

take blood from his son? Is that like

Adam:

in There's something about that. Yeah. And I I don't know the details. I think it's like his response was that it's a common treatment for something, and I can't remember what it was. But the fact that it was the sun and people, like, think he looks like a vampire, they just blew it up.

Dax:

Well, the thing, I I'm more curious about the logistics. Like, okay, If you live near each other, how often do you need to donate? How often do you need to do whatever? If your son decides to move away, Is that, like, now impacting your health? Because they can't can't give you You

Adam:

don't have your family's use anymore? I don't know. Yeah. I don't plan to go to those extremes, like swapping people's blood in with mine or whatever.

Dax:

I'm down to do that. I have no problem

Adam:

with that.

Dax:

Why not?

Adam:

Okay. Well, it It just sounds one

Dax:

of my best.

Adam:

I just don't like needles. I really don't enjoy the poking. Yeah. It sucks.

Dax:

What in exchange for eternal youth?

Adam:

Is it eternal youth? Like, do we do we really think I I have this thought, and it's really morbid and it's terrible. But Like, what if he gets hit, like, in a car accident and gets killed?

Dax:

Liz does the exact same thing. She's like, you're so worried that he's gonna die in some ironic way.

Adam:

You know? Like, all that effort. Yeah. Yeah. Some, like, dumb, stupid accident.

Adam:

But it's just, like, we need more we need redundancy. We need more people doing these experiments, with antiaging stuff because

Dax:

So you wanna clone him is what you're saying?

Adam:

Maybe. Or just like I know there's other studies. Other people are going to less drastic obsessed extremes. Just not all our eggs in one Brian Johnson basket, you know? Like

Dax:

It's only someone

Adam:

because he's gonna die of

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

We've made

Dax:

people nervous that.

Adam:

I mean

Dax:

go through that type of lifestyle.

Adam:

I mean, have you eaten superveggie? It's not delicious.

Dax:

Busy?

Adam:

It's just like his main now it's like his breakfast.

Dax:

What does it exactly mean?

Adam:

Oh, it's just what he named The meal he eats, that's like it's the lentil the black lentil based meal.

Dax:

And that's it? It's it's just lentils?

Adam:

No. No. No. It's like a bunch of different veggies and stuff. And sometimes he blends it into, like, a hummus.

Adam:

It's like his every breakfast, I think. So then he has nutty pudding for, like, his second meal. He has 3 meals a day. Mhmm. This is always changing, dude.

Adam:

That's the thing about Brian Johnson. If you follow this stuff, it's like, Every month, it's a different take on because they're learning stuff. I mean, they're measuring all those things. Right? So now that Super Veggies is the first meal, and then he has the nutty pudding, which is delicious.

Adam:

It's like macadamia nuts. It's just like tons of nuts and cocoa and It's like a pudding. It's like a chia pudding. It's delicious. And then the 3rd meal, he has some actual variance.

Adam:

Like, it's not the same meal every day. So So, yes, I'm like sweet potato meals and other stuff. Anyway, super veggie is not great. I mean, it's a lot of nutrition, Just not

Dax:

a super tasty, like, can't wait

Adam:

to wake up and eat my super veggie.

Dax:

But like, how how much does it differ from your diet? Like, what are you eating that he's not?

Adam:

What am I eating that he's not? So I'm, I'm we vary our meals more, so we don't stick to, like we're not like, he talks about every, Every calorie has to fight for its right to be in each of his meals. We're not that, like, judicious. Is that the word? Is that a word?

Dax:

Dude, dishes is the opposite. Is that

Adam:

a word?

Dax:

Dig dishes means, like, you're fair or, like, reasonable.

Adam:

Oh, no. He we're not that legalistic. I don't know what's

Dax:

the word.

Adam:

Strict? Strict? I don't know. Strictly simple words.

Dax:

Okay. Here's my thing. I think we all knew all the words we needed to by the time we were, like, 15 years old, and we don't need to add more words. Yeah. And then

Adam:

we just keep trying to, yeah, get smarter and yeah. Did you see that author on Twitter though that took down, Somebody that went communist. What was it? Did you see this?

Dax:

What?

Adam:

Former former sorry. That's a very weird sentence. Former Twitch CEO, what's his name?

Dax:

Yes. I did see some of this.

Adam:

Or former interim CEO. That guy.

Dax:

The OpenAI.

Adam:

Oh, OpenAI. With this. Yeah. Whatever his name is. I can't think of his name.

Adam:

Edward? Emmett? No. Emmett something? Emmett Sheer?

Adam:

Thank you. Emmett Sheer Basically, tweet it. You you didn't see any of this?

Dax:

I kind of saw it.

Adam:

Oh, I I'm so glad I get to catch you up.

Dax:

Yes.

Adam:

But you kinda saw it. We'll see. Maybe no maybe somebody listening didn't see any of it because they're not a de degenerate on Twitter. Emmett Shear tweets, You know, inheritance is, like, dumb, and we should just split it up between everybody. And like Wait.

Dax:

Was this Nikkita

Adam:

that started this? Oh, I don't know.

Dax:

Because Nikita Bier posted something like that. We're, like, a 100% tax on death. And everyone went nuts.

Adam:

Yeah. As they did in this scenario when Emmett said similar things. This author though, He wrote, like, a science fiction novel, and I gotta get his name.

Dax:

Is it Ted Chiang? Who? Ted Chiang?

Adam:

I don't know who that is. I don't think so because that's not familiar. The author's name is It's gonna be worth it. Just wait. Devin Erickson.

Adam:

We'll put that in the show notes. But what happened?

Dax:

What did he do?

Adam:

So he wrote he's he's an author. Right? So he's good with words. He knows lots of big ones and knows when to use them. And he wrote this Amazing.

Adam:

Like, I think he quote tweeted, maybe, or screenshotted Emmett's tweets, and just wrote this amazing, like, takedown of what's wrong with Emmett's line of thinking, and it dives into so many things that I care about, like, or just, like, things that Really make me feel good, like, when people poke at Silicon Valley elite people. And he just, like, goes he just tears it down. And then Emmett has replies, and then he just tears those replies down. I think tore them down. I guess someone might be, like, on the other side of the argument thinking, I don't know.

Adam:

It's just I it's hard for me to imagine, that you could argue against Devon's words because they were so well put, And there's a lot of them.

Dax:

I feel like I might end up on the other side.

Adam:

Which side? You think we should tax the inheritance?

Dax:

Okay. So my perception of the situation was Nikita Beard Tweeted, in his usual style, which is, like, very extreme and crazy because he's trying to, like

Adam:

Yeah.

Dax:

Provoke a conversation. Whole set of people take it way too literally, and they're like, a 100%. Like, that makes no sense. Like, you can't text a 100%. Just okay.

Dax:

Whatever. But the point being, like, The underlying principle is, if you are capitalist and you like capitalism, which I am. I'm, like, extremely pro capitalism. Yep. I know that about you.

Dax:

Yeah. You should be pro something like this in this direction because Inheriting a lot of wealth Mhmm. That is kinda what leads to non capitalist systems, where you have, like, wealth that gets conserved over years without ever, like, being Redistributor, like, reused in in useful

Adam:

ways. Interesting.

Dax:

And you end up with, like, a landlord type class that doesn't actually develop anything, But they can just kind of live comfortably off of wealth that was create genuinely created by someone, you know, a long time ago. Of course, 100% doesn't make sense. I don't know what percent makes sense. I don't even know if it needs to be a percent. But, like, fundamentally, this is it it's, like, not It, like, breaks capitalism when wealth can accrue.

Dax:

Capitalism requires, like, stuff being created, stuff being destroyed when it's bad, like, reallocating stuff to more efficient places. So, Yeah. They're I'm fine with someone becoming a billionaire if they are someone that, like, that created the wealth and, like, Figured out how to do that and was a good capital allocator. I can trust them with that stuff to continue to do stuff that's productive and efficient more than the average person. Their kids?

Dax:

I don't know. I don't know if I, like, feel like they're kids I can trust. Yeah. I feel like history tells us that it's it's very hard For that to, like, repeat

Adam:

Mhmm.

Dax:

Across multiple generations?

Adam:

I mean, Trump did it. He took his dad's money and and built amazing things. Right? That's true.

Dax:

He didn't make it bigger. I mean, it's technically true. Yeah. Oh, maybe. I don't know.

Dax:

Yeah.

Adam:

I was thinking of another example. Oh, Elon Musk And Trump, they they both inherited something. Right?

Dax:

And I think you have last one is not really like I think that's Didn't really inherit.

Adam:

Yeah. His dad was kind of a storyteller, I think.

Dax:

Yeah. I guess that's what it seems like. Yeah. But, yeah, like like, very few generations, like, grow it. They usually just Yeah.

Dax:

Either deplete it or, like, just keep it flat. And that's why, like, so Bill Gates does this thing with his, Is he the one behind the pledge or whatever? So the money he donates

Adam:

wasn't that Buffett?

Dax:

Oh, Buffett. Yeah. Buffett. I think Bill Gates in law with it too.

Adam:

He's big in it.

Dax:

Yeah. But They when they, when they when they die, they're gonna donate a large percent of their wealth to these these foundations. They mandate that it has to be spent within x number of

Adam:

years. Oh, interesting.

Dax:

Because the most

Adam:

That's very capitalist.

Dax:

Yeah. Because, like, realistically, you know exactly What's gonna happen, this foundation is gonna do nothing and then just, like, coast off of, like, the the gains and, like, have very little impact and do, like, You know, you can see how that that's kind of what would happen. So they want it to all be spent in 50 years to have, like, as much impact as possible. So Yeah. I I get where it's all coming from.

Dax:

I don't know if this guy that replied, if that's what he was poking at. Or

Adam:

I don't either. I'm not smart enough. But you should read it all. You should read the tweets because I thought they were very well worded. None of it matters because no one's inheriting anything when we all live forever.

Adam:

Who cares? There's no such thing as inheritance.

Dax:

That's true. That is true.

Adam:

Thanks, Brian Johnson.

Dax:

That's a problem. Thanks for solving That's a whole new problem.

Adam:

Whole new problem. Yeah.

Dax:

I would be I'm confused. So was he saying that Emmett was being communist by saying this?

Adam:

Yes. I know that much.

Dax:

Yeah. It's just funny because I think it's the opposite. I think if you are really dedicated to capitalism, you do do this thing that seems like because it's oh, we're disputing wealth. That that seems like a not capitalist thing. But actually, it's one of the most capitalist things you can

Adam:

Interesting.

Dax:

Be in favor of.

Adam:

Well, now you've got me all jumbled. Because I just take the most like, whatever the most coherent argument was that I last heard, then that'd be the most coherent argument.

Dax:

It's just the last coherent argument. Yeah.

Adam:

If it was coherent at all, then that's the thing I believe. So now, I don't know who to believe because I believe what you just said. But also, those tweets, they were so good.

Dax:

I got a lot.

Adam:

I

Dax:

mean, you're really impressed. So I mean, impression I'm really impressed.

Adam:

I like, I followed him. I might buy his book. I don't even buy his book. Book? Fiction.

Dax:

That's gonna go Straight into his kids pockets. Okay. Here's another thing. I don't know

Adam:

if this

Dax:

is how it plays out in other people's families, but I'm not inheriting anything from my parents because, like, I'm gonna be pretty old by the time like, I'm not, like, waiting on an inheritance that's gonna land I'm, like, 60 years old, you know? Like, maybe my grandkids, but, like, maybe my parents' grandkids, my kids. So it's usually going to their grandkids. And do you really Trust someone's grandkids. You know what I mean?

Adam:

I think so. I think I know what you mean.

Dax:

Yeah. Just I don't know.

Adam:

Yeah. Just read the tweets, and then come back to me and please explain to me who's right. Because I don't know anymore. And I don't wanna become something I shouldn't be. I don't know.

Adam:

I'll follow anybody. Just to make a good argument.

Dax:

I think with all these things, it's like I think the people have pointed out this problem in our system where, like, Stuff just accrues. I think that's a real problem, and we need to be aware of that. And we need to, like, deal with it. It's it's hard to, though. Like, it just feels unfair to So you can't pass stuff down to your kids, or you can't even pass down x percent to your kids.

Dax:

Yeah. And that probably creates all kinds of side effects where if you, like, put in laws into place, like, They might find ways around it and create a worse situation like that. I don't know. But it is a good concept that people should be aware of.

Adam:

Do you see my eyes blazing over? This is the point where we have talking about something else because I have nothing to to add. Because you have no personality. I have no personality.

Dax:

I

Adam:

I guess we should probably get off here because it is it's over an hour now. An hour. We're out of practice. I think we used to just, like, Stop in an hour. And now I can't actually read it.

Adam:

I don't know what it says. But I know it's been over an hour.

Dax:

It's 106.

Adam:

Oh, not bad. Look at us. Getting it back. Upset. Hey, we're only like 30 episodes away from a 100.

Dax:

Every single episode, you're very excited to get to a 100. You're a lot more excited to get to a 100 than I am. It's

Adam:

I'm building up this hundred things. Number's gonna

Dax:

be successful contract, man. Like

Adam:

Oh, yeah. Right. They're all made up. Yeah. It's gonna feel like an accomplishment, though, once we've done a hundred episodes.

Adam:

You know what I'm saying? We should really just do 99 and then stop forever. Wouldn't that be funny?

Dax:

No.

Adam:

That'd be a pretty funny build up.

Dax:

We know it.

Adam:

We'll think about it.

Dax:

It'll be cool if we

Adam:

get to We're shocked that.

Dax:

10,000 episodes. How about that?

Adam:

10,000. I read

Dax:

that you can't you don't get good at podcasting till you put in 10,000 episodes worth.

Adam:

No. You didn't read that.

Dax:

It's true.

Adam:

Did you really no. Tim, that no. Podcasts don't even go that far.

Dax:

They've done the research. They've done the and the analytics.

Adam:

They're making this up.

Dax:

They crunch the numbers. They put it into You're making it up. The machine learning model. And

Adam:

10,000 episodes. So they're just saying no podcasts are good, basically. Obsessed. Why is everyone doing this? Whatever happened to, like so Serial, I listen.

Adam:

Did you listen to Serial? We talked about this. I don't

Dax:

like those. Remember? Like, I'm not a big fan of

Adam:

crime ones? Yeah. Okay. Well, I want another one.

Dax:

But people love Serial.

Adam:

I loved it. I loved all the seasons of it. Well, except for the bow whatever one. That was stupid. But I like I want something like that to listen to again.

Dax:

So you want more crime to happen so So that you can't Is it crime?

Adam:

Am I attracted to the crime? I don't think so.

Dax:

Serial is about crime stuff. Right?

Adam:

It it was a crime. Yeah. It was like a, Uh-huh. But s town, part of the same, like, production group, the people that made serial made s town. It's like season something.

Adam:

Not really a crime thing. It's just like about this guy. So I think it's just good storytellers. Someone reply to something. I don't know.

Adam:

Send us a message on Twitter or something. And give us some good podcast, like, nonfiction recommendations. I would like a good podcast series to listen to.

Dax:

I feel there's a lot of what you're looking for.

Adam:

Oh, do you know some? Just tell me.

Dax:

Well, not me. I don't really listen to podcasts. But Liz Has consumed a lot of stuff.

Adam:

Okay. Maybe Hellore's sent it to me.

Dax:

Are you listening to LORE?

Adam:

No. Never heard of it. Okay.

Dax:

You might like Like, l o r e. Yeah. I think it's like I think they do like, it's not it's non fiction. I think it's like real stuff, but stuff that is almost like Mythical or like,

Adam:

Oh, common folklore. Okay. Frightening history behind common folklore. This sounds really good.

Dax:

Yes, folklore. That that that's the word.

Adam:

I also love the font they use on the website.

Dax:

Yeah. Big plus. We listened to a few of these things when we drive when we used to drive from Miami to New York. So I've sampled a few things that She's

Adam:

I'm gonna I'm gonna Me too. I'm gonna sample this one as well. It was funny, Liz, the other night on New Year's

Dax:

That was funny. I saw it the next morning.

Adam:

Funny about it is I tweeted, and then I went to sleep. And then 5 hours later, she says, go to bed. Like, I was literally almost done sleeping at that point. She's like, go to sleep.

Dax:

And then 5 hours after that, she's like, sorry. I'm I was drunk.

Adam:

Yeah. I was drunk. But what

Dax:

was it in reply to? It was I think it was in reply to a very Adam type tweet.

Adam:

Oh, was it? I mean, when you're drunk, It was a like, it was an Adam type tweet. It was a I think it was the one I asked, if I have bruises and black eyes and Will that detract from my educational videos?

Dax:

Hey. Okay. Exactly. Perfect.

Adam:

I really need to know because I need to know if I have to take, like, a break from jujitsu to do a course.

Dax:

Okay. Everyone said, no, do it. It'll be fun, or, like, it'll be interesting.

Adam:

Some people said yes, that they would be distracted.

Dax:

I said don't. Like, I don't I don't think okay. Here's here's how I think about it. Yeah. You put in all this work Making this course.

Dax:

And you look back on it, and, like, there's, like, a flaw on your face. I know how you are. I feel like that's gonna annoy you. Right?

Adam:

Yeah. Yeah. Can you see, like, can you see my ghee burns? I've got my nose. It's, like, all bruised.

Dax:

I mean, the quality isn't great on Riverside, but I can't see anything.

Adam:

Oh, probably great. Yeah. Oh, thanks. Well, hey, this is about as bad as my face has looked in jujitsu, like, the most I've had, like, marks on my face. So if you can't really tell right now, then I might be in the clear.

Dax:

I was picturing, A scar, like a black eye.

Adam:

I've had one black eye. So that would be a possibility as well.

Dax:

But I

Adam:

don't know.

Dax:

I feel like it would just drive you crazy if you just

Adam:

Seriously, what are you saying I should do? Stop doing jujitsu or wait to record my course until my face looks better.

Dax:

I mean, I don't think your face looks weird right now. I don't know. Send me a sample. Send me, like, a HD sample, and I'll I'll give you thumbs up or thumbs up.

Adam:

Yeah. In full 4 k.

Dax:

I'll do it. Yeah. Open gate.

Adam:

Okay. We let's get off here.

Dax:

Okay.

Adam:

Thanks, Dax. I don't I don't even have to pee or anything. Just we're just going. We're just leaving.

Dax:

Did you finish your list of things you need from me?

Adam:

No, I didn't. I gave you 2. There's at least 3. The data

Dax:

API Yes. Secret prefetcher.

Adam:

Sometime in 2025, you'll with me that one. Seeker prefetcher. That one, yeah. If you can follow-up with Frank, just let me know. Or I could follow-up with Frank.

Adam:

There was a third thing, and I can't remember. I was gonna write these down. It was so important that I almost wrote all of them down. But I didn't. It's okay.

Adam:

Alright. See you, Dax.

Dax:

Alright. See you. As miss Frank. See you.

Adam:

Upset.

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Adam Elmore
Host
Adam Elmore
AWS DevTools Hero and co-founder @statmuse. Husband. Father. Brother. Sister?? Pet?!?
Dax Raad
Host
Dax Raad
building @SST_dev and @withbumi
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