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Dax:Face cheeks. Thank you for the clarification.
Adam:Yeah. Audio only format. You know?
Dax:Look at that Reinvent hoodie. Yeah. Is it chilly?
Adam:Gotta get a touch up. It is chilly here. Oh, yeah, you're in Miami. It's never cold there,
Dax:Yeah. It's like my first year going through the whole seasonal cycle and, like, not being in sync with the rest of the country, I guess.
Adam:It's been really chilly. It's been nice. We've had, like, 38 degrees in the morning Fahrenheit for our international listeners. I don't know what that is in Celsius. Zero, maybe?
Adam:I don't know. It's been really chilly. It's like fall is here and it's official and I'm very excited.
Dax:Do you know how I, like, noticed it? There were some video going around of, like, just some it looked like it was New York, someone was getting into a fight and I was like, oh, they're all wearing like a sweater and Just like whatever viral video is going around, like, that's the only way I can really keep track of seasons by what people are wearing.
Adam:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Dax:This this is cold now.
Adam:Miami, like, it's only the very tip of Florida. Like, the very South tip of Florida that is, like, the very tropical weather. Like, if you go up to Orlando even, does it start getting cooler? Guess, I don't know if you go to Orlando ever.
Dax:I have no idea. I know very little about Florida. I don't know if I'm ever gonna know much more.
Adam:Just no interest. Yeah. You like Miami, you're not really into Florida. No. I just remember when we moved down there, it was like the only that south tip of Florida that you can actually grow like tropical things.
Adam:Like you can't
Dax:Oh, I'm saying.
Adam:Just like all of Florida is not like that. It's it's a very narrow little strip at the bottom.
Dax:The the farming stuff is interesting to me though because when we were in New York, we did, so we had two great options in New York. So, for half the year, mostly in the spring, summer, and beginning of the fall, we signed up for a you basically partner with a farm and the farm gives you like every two weeks or like every week Farm share. Big box of Yeah. Farm share, exactly.
Adam:Yeah, we do this.
Dax:And it was great because you would, like there there'd be seasons and there'd be certain crops that were in season and you would get them. And Liz had this amazing cookbook that, was all about cooking seasonally. You just work through the cookbook and you line up with the stuff that was in season for that part of the world. Yeah. Then also we had like great farmers markets that were in, kind of the middle of the city, pretty close to us.
Dax:And we recently found out the reason that those farmers markets even existed. Initially, were like, okay, there's a lot people in New York, that's why the farmers markets are there. But it was actually more that there's a lot of restaurants
Adam:in New York
Dax:and those farmers markets were there primarily to like do business with restaurants. Not necessarily like buying stuff on the spot, more like them coming and sampling and and doing all that. So us as normal people got to benefit from that. But here in Miami, we've gone to a few farmers markets and it really hasn't been very good. To be honest, in a bunch of them, we were very convinced they just were just reselling grocery store stuff.
Adam:Like, you know, how
Dax:like all the berries come in, like, the company called Driscoll, like Yeah. Strawberries, raspberry. They that's what they had there, like the labels. And I was like, why would this be a farmer's market? So so we don't have that but we did find a farm to do a thing with but and we haven't started yet, like it's gonna start like maybe in a month or so.
Dax:But like, this concept of seasons and eating seasonally is probably very different here and Liz thinks that there probably isn't an equivalent book so she wants to figure it out and make it. Yeah. But yeah, we have no idea what like eating seasonally here even means. Like, is it is it just South Of Flor South Florida or like, do we also get stuff from like Northern And And Central Florida?
Adam:Yeah. Do people come down to Miami and sell their other things? Yeah. I guess, like, Miami, you can grow other stuff. It's just you have access to growing more things.
Adam:Right? Like, you can still grow normal crops.
Dax:That's what I was that's what I'm not sure of.
Adam:Or maybe the soil is so different. I don't know.
Dax:Yeah. Maybe it's too hot. I don't know. But I mean, I love tropical fruits. Like, I love tropical fruit and it's awesome to have that be local.
Dax:Like, your local fruit is tropical fruit. But like, that doesn't make
Adam:up Yeah. Your
Dax:You need more than that. Those are just like bonuses.
Adam:I love the farm show thing. It it makes you like eat a bunch of different vegetables you wouldn't normally pick at the grocery store. It's just kind of like, what are we getting this week? Yeah. That's a fun time.
Dax:Yeah. Having that like constraint also just simplifies stuff because you just you don't have make any decisions. You just get a bunch of stuff and you gotta
Adam:Yep.
Dax:Find a way to cook it. Yeah. That book is called Six Seasons for anyone listening.
Adam:But there's only four seasons.
Dax:No, but there's actually six. Why? If you look at if you look at it by food. Oh. Joshua McFadden, I think is the author.
Dax:Interesting. Super super popular book, and everything in there is is so good. Yes, some of it so much so much of it is like, I think a lot of people hear, like you being vegan or like people being vegetarian and they just picture people eating boiled broccoli or
Adam:something.
Dax:But the stuff in this book is insane. It's not like a vegetarian book, there's like meat and everything but
Adam:Yeah.
Dax:A lot of it is around cooking the vegetables that are in season and it's like such crazy stuff. Like it'll be like, here's a way to cook radishes and you just would not believe how good they taste. Like they taste so so good and all it is is like just a vegetable in a few steps and it's like
Adam:Yeah.
Dax:One of the most delicious things you've ever eaten.
Adam:Radishes, We eat a lot of beets around here. Not a lot of radishes. Love beets. Pickled beets. One of my favorites.
Dax:I think I'm saying radishes, I'm not imagining well, imagining is not a radish. It's a small thing that looks like a radish, but it's really small. It's like this big.
Adam:Okay. Is that a radish? I don't know. I think radishes might be small. Radishes look like a small beet to me, I think.
Adam:Oh, I don't like turnips. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Adam:I don't like turnips. I can tell you that. I don't like the taste of them. I think radishes are just little beets.
Dax:Yeah. Okay. I got it right there. Don't come at me like horticulture experts.
Adam:I'm sure that's not true.
Dax:Horticulture? Is that what this is?
Adam:Is it? Horticulture? Agriculture? What what is horticulture? Did I make that word out?
Dax:I don't know what no. It is a word. I don't know what it means. I it to me, in my head, it's like a more specific narrow form of agriculture.
Adam:Garden cultivation and management. It's the ardor part of this. Got it. Got it.
Dax:So yeah. Do you guys grow anything at home?
Adam:We do. We grew this year so we always grow, like, the normal stuff, tomatoes, zucchini, which they go nuts. This year, we grew some melons and they took over. We have watermelon and cantaloupe that were just everywhere. Like, the leaf part was everywhere.
Adam:We didn't get a lot of good watermelon out of it. Like, I don't know what was wrong with them. Some of them were big. They just weren't that tasty. I don't know what the trick is.
Adam:I know how to pick out a tasty one at the store. I don't know
Dax:how to grow a tasty one. Do you get the pre sliced one like Ryan Florence?
Adam:No. Pre sliced what? They what?
Dax:Wait, did you miss this?
Adam:I missed it.
Dax:Okay. Is this gonna be funny for you then?
Adam:Pretend I'm not on Twitter. You not
Dax:see so Ryan Florence, like, the remix creator
Adam:I know Ryan.
Dax:He posted he posted a picture of like, his he like wants to grow his store and he put it all on his kitchen counter and he posted a picture being
Adam:Yeah. Like a 100
Dax:Yeah. It went like stupid viral and like people were roasting him. I mean, stupid people were trying to roast him. I couldn't believe how Viola went because literally Liz's friends were sending her that tweet or like pictures. Like, Oh, gets like wow.
Dax:Screenshot it and put on Instagram and then copied to Reddit.
Adam:That is nuts.
Dax:Yeah. So that may The be the most
Adam:tech circle made it out of the tech circle.
Dax:That might be the most viral thing I've ever seen from someone that I like directly know.
Adam:Yeah. It was everywhere. But what was the deal with the watermelon? He got
Dax:sliced He sliced watermelon and everyone was like, everyone hates pre sliced fruit because it's like, it's such a luxury. But Ryan had a really funny explanation. He was like because he just broke his collarbone. He was like, yeah, I picked up the watermelon and like my collarbone hurt so I grabbed the sliced one. That's awesome.
Adam:I, I love cut fruit. I we don't I don't think we get a lot of well, I guess so we do get, like, chunked watermelon, I guess. That's precut watermelon. We see that at the store, but I don't ever see, like the internet now. Whole slices of it.
Adam:Don't don't
Dax:let it go. Chunked? Oh, just like they're they're cubes. I think that's what it was. That's what it
Adam:Oh, that's what it was. Oh. Okay. I was just picturing, like, slices of watermelon in a package. I don't know.
Adam:It just sounded different to me for some reason.
Dax:Well, people would hate you if they found out that's what you were getting.
Adam:Interesting. Cut through to the luxury, There's probably a lot of stuff in my life I don't realize are luxury that are a luxury.
Dax:Yeah. I think it's because it's like doubly expensive and it probably is like twice as expensive,
Adam:Okay. I would Another very like Yeah.
Dax:Is it
Adam:luxury thing. I don't actually know what food costs. Yeah. It's I know it's expensive. I do know it's gotten more expensive because I remember one day we were at Mama Jeans and it rung up like $650 or something.
Adam:I can't ever remember spending more than like $400 at the grocery store. That was it was like we go to the grocery store, it's like $400. It was like $6.50. So that's that was something. Inflation or something.
Dax:Yeah. We noticed it too. Like me and Liz are consistently coming close to $200 for the week. That's just the edge for two people. Yeah.
Dax:That's why we're getting that much crazy stuff either. Yeah. But It's
Adam:getting out of hand. Yeah. What are gonna do
Dax:about It is one it is one area that I'm like very okay spending money.
Adam:Yeah, no same. Is kind of the thing we spend most of our money on actually.
Dax:Yeah. I I was thinking about this other day like how stuff just costs such like a wide range of money but then if you think about it in terms of joy that it brings you, sometimes some luxury goods are actually super affordable. And the reason I was thinking about this was so my soap that I use in the shower. Yeah. It is that fancy I'm blanking the brand now.
Dax:What's that fancy soap brand that has all like the fancy stores? What are you blanking on it?
Adam:Oh, wait. So we get a fancy soap called oh, no. I don't know if they have stores. I can't remember the name. I'm sorry.
Adam:I think it starts with an s.
Dax:Okay.
Adam:Not gonna help you. It's I think it's local. Never mind.
Dax:Their stores are really cool and all they sell are like Just like this one, like, one kind of soap. I mean, have like, like, eight different flavors or whatever.
Adam:Flavors.
Dax:If if you look at it, I'll keep eating it. Guess. Well, you're probably right. It's all like it's all like, food related flavors. Like, it's always like citrus or like coriander and all these things that you use Popcorn.
Dax:Yeah, gotcha. Popcorn. Oh, I got a bunch of stuff about popcorn too after this. Oh, okay.
Adam:That was random. I love it.
Dax:So if you look at it, if someone saw me getting soap from there, they would be like, oh, that's like the most excessive luxurious thing because Yeah. One bottle of soap is expensive, it's like 50 or $60. Yeah. But you can look at it another way where it's like, well, in a year I need two of those, so it's a $100 And it makes every single day of my life Yes. Like meaningfully better.
Dax:Like, anytime I go take a shower, it is like so much better. And there's so many things in life you would just drop a $100 on that are way less impactful. So that's like the epitome of a luxury good but I don't see it as a luxury good because it just so like the ratio and how much
Adam:it impacts. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel about my sauna and my cold plunge every day of my life. They're worth the investment.
Adam:Can I say something without all the financial nerds coming at me? I like buying new stuff. I it brings me joy to buy something that's new, and I feel bad when it's been used. I don't know. Maybe that's terrible.
Adam:I'm destroying the planet or something. I'm sorry. But there you go. I'm gonna buy
Dax:new stuff. Someone's gotta buy new stuff so other people can buy old stuff.
Adam:Exactly. I sell a lot of stuff used to other people who don't mind buying new stuff.
Dax:So I've gone the other way where for some reason my whole life, my I just would just I was just like unaware that you could buy things secondhand. And I think it was it's like a weird cultural thing like, for me, for my mom, like the idea of having something secondhand is like really weird to her. Not because she's like super rich or anything like
Adam:Just because it wasn't an option.
Dax:Yeah. It just like, I don't know. No, but no, not not even that. Like, if we talk about it to her, it's like some core thing in her where it feels weird. But I don't I don't really understand where it comes from because I'm sure like when she grew up in India, like stuff was secondhand all the time.
Dax:Yeah. But for her, she has like a weird thing. Growing up, I never just it just didn't register me that was an option. So now, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, I can buy things secondhand and it feels like I'm twice as rich as I was before. Because now all this stuff that I wouldn't consider buying, it's like an option now or like it's like a crazy discount.
Adam:So I'm realizing It's
Dax:like half. I'm realizing that whole yeah. I'm like realizing that that's an option like
Adam:Yeah. It's a psychological thing for me. That must have your mom's issue. Like for me, there's something about someone had it and did stuff with it before me. I just I can't do it.
Adam:It's not like I like the new car smell. It's not like that. It's just like, I wanna know that it came from the people who made it, and it is in my hands. That's probably terrible financially, environmentally, whatever. It brings me joy.
Adam:Okay? So every single thing I buy brings me joy. Get off me. Zach says his soap. I have all of the things I purchase.
Dax:Yes. I have my 100 soap, and you have all these other things. So then speaking of things to buy, so my friend just got really into popcorn recently. Okay. And he he showed me Weird this flex,
Adam:but okay.
Dax:It's not a flex, it's just I know, it's just It's so
Adam:just a fact.
Dax:He got into this thing called the Whirly Pop and this is, again, going back to ratio of like cost impact. It's a $30 thing. It's it's like a pot that you put on your, Yeah. It has like a hand crank that like spins everything inside of it.
Adam:Okay. To pop your popcorn more evenly?
Dax:So, yeah. Basically, you put the corn kernels in there and you spin it and that makes it something about that makes it so it pops as fast as like microwave popcorn. So it's like done within
Adam:Okay.
Dax:A couple minutes. So it's Mhmm. Almost as convenient and there's no kernels left over and it tastes No burning literally at all. Yeah. So I got one last week and I tried it and all we Or did add
Adam:was that a new kernel?
Dax:No, got it new. It's about $30. Sorry. It's also not like the most well built thing, so I don't know if it's gonna last to make it secondhand. But, yeah, and then they like, give you all this like fancy okay, I don't know what, much of a difference, like, the corn makes.
Dax:Like, how good can you make But the it did taste very, very good. And all we did was add salt. Like, we didn't even add butter, and it was very good. So this upgraded my popcorn experience by, like, double, I would say. Wow.
Dax:So now whenever we're
Adam:watching An order of magnitude.
Dax:Yeah.
Adam:Is that an order of magnitude?
Dax:I never know what that that phrase I I always okay. In my head, I use it the time. But in my head, it's like for me, it means like, oh, it's not like a 5% gain. It's like a multiple gain. Then whenever that, I say order of magnitude.
Adam:Yeah. I think it's like if you That's not how it works. I think it's like if you go from 10,000 to a 100,000,
Dax:it's like the next zero. Yeah. Yeah. Like zero. Okay.
Adam:So two times would not be an order of magnitude. My my my mistake.
Dax:But in my head, it is.
Adam:Okay. So then it worked
Dax:in our conversation. I don't I don't know.
Adam:So I as a person who gets into a lot of things, did not know you could get into popcorn. I'm interested, though. You've got me intrigued.
Dax:Do you guys eat popcorn? Well, you got this new movie theater.
Adam:We yeah. So we buy just like the it's a lesser evil. They make, like, a bunch of different flavors of popcorn.
Dax:It's just a bag. Is it microwave?
Adam:No. It's just a bag. I was thinking warm. I'm realizing now Wait.
Dax:You're just buying pre okay. You got a long way to go.
Adam:You're gonna really far from being into popcorn, I really gotta
Dax:set it up. Just a pre popped one. No. It's it's really I'm
Adam:gonna be on the forums, like Mr. Pop or whatever the forum is for popcorn. I'm gonna be deep in this stuff. Your $30 little whirly whatever.
Dax:Whirly whirly pop.
Adam:Just wait. Just wait. So you got
Dax:my brass okay.
Adam:Go ahead.
Dax:Well, they do sell a copper one which is like 60 That's just what
Adam:I'm taking.
Dax:Yeah. I think this is a I don't know. To me, I'm like, okay, is great. Every time I watch a movie, I'm just gonna have a routine of making a popcorn. Yeah.
Dax:And you can I do love how And like, you can put real butter on it, whatever you want? Mhmm.
Adam:Yeah. You can use grass fed corn kernels or whatever. Grass fed.
Dax:The real
Adam:elite stuff. Force feeding the corn grass.
Dax:What is mind blowing to me is how little corn makes so much popcorn. Like Oh, really? Whatever you're imagining, it's like five times less than you're imagining. Like, a bowl of
Adam:Oh, like the number of little
Dax:kernels. Kernels.
Adam:I bet you like how much per cob. Okay. I see.
Dax:Enough popcorn to like really fill you up is like less than one cob of corn.
Adam:Oh, interesting. Yeah. Because I guess there's a lot of little kernels on a cob. Wow.
Dax:But it makes no sense because I can eat a cob of corn with like no worries.
Adam:Yeah. And you can just eat popcorn for a long time. Like a big Yeah. Bowl of Popcorn's one of those snacks you can just like I I like something I can eat a lot of volume of and it's not a lot of like density.
Dax:Yeah. I But think when you add the salt and the butter, it starts to feel
Adam:Well, sure. Yeah.
Dax:Feel like more? Because I get pretty full eating popcorn, to be honest.
Adam:Do you ever eat the honeycomb cereal growing up or still?
Dax:I've had it before. It is very good. All that stuff is just candy, though.
Adam:It is. Yeah. But it it comes in like a box, like, three times bigger than any other cereal box because you can literally just eat the entire box and not notice. Like, there's no whatever substance to it. It's like, in a lot of cereals are that way, but honeycomb takes the the prize for I could eat the most honeycomb without ever feeling full.
Adam:Like bowl upon bowl upon bowl.
Dax:Do you guy do you guys do breakfast? Like, what do you have a breakfast routine?
Adam:We don't really do the same things. So I generally so lately, I've done this, like, smoothie I make that's just got everything in it. But then, like, this morning, it's just too cold. It got cold and a cold smoothie just did not do it for me. Like, I'm in pants and a hoodie.
Adam:So I made a little oatmeal with cherries in it. And then I take a half a block of tofu and I crumble it up in a bowl and I season it with turmeric. Is it turmeric or turmeric?
Dax:I've always heard turmeric and Okay. It is the spice of my people so you should
Adam:It's how it's spelled. But we've always said turmeric and then I'm like, oh, we're from Missouri so we probably just screwed up. We live in the Ozarks. So turmeric and black pepper and that's a little salsa and avocado on it. It's delicious.
Adam:It's a little tofu scramble. So that's what I did this morning.
Dax:So the reason I'm asking is because, I love Miami but I think that we don't have good breakfast. We have great other stuff like everything else but, growing up in the Northeast, so in the town that I'm from, randomly there's like an extremely famous bagel place there. Like, it's been on TV shows and stuff and a treat would be going there and getting a jalapeno bagel pork roll with cheese. This is like the most delicious thing in the world. The bagel itself is so good.
Dax:Pork roll, classic New Jersey thing, the cheese amazing. Then in New York, obviously bagel, like great bagels are just everywhere. Like Yeah. A really good breakfast under $10 but still like fantastic. You just go grab a really good bagel.
Dax:Yeah. There's not a single good bagel in Miami. I've tried a bunch.
Adam:Interesting.
Dax:There's one that people say is like good and I'm like, okay, it is like decent compared to the other stuff but we just struggle. Like there's no good bagel option. So that means that if we wanna like do some kind of breakfast on Saturday where we're not making it, there's just not an option. I'm like, I don't
Adam:know
Dax:how to resolve this.
Adam:I mean, I guess we make all of our breakfast. We don't really have breakfast option where we can go somewhere. But
Dax:if you wanted to get a bagel, like do you guys eat bagels?
Adam:They eat bagels almost every morning. We just we get them at the store and we put well, they're just like grocery store bagels that we put in the the toaster.
Dax:Toaster.
Adam:They're okay. Don't know. But we've gone through a lot of different ones to find the ones they like at the grocery store. But they put like peanut butter and jelly on them, so I don't know. The bagel doesn't really shine.
Dax:Oh, I see. It's not like a bagel you'd
Adam:get at a place, I'm sure.
Dax:I mean, maybe I've just been spoiled by growing up where I grew up because
Adam:Isn't like New York, like, the bagel place? Like, that's where you get the bagels?
Dax:Yeah. And it it just it just confusing to me when something is that popular, it's not like more replicated. And everyone has like their weird explanation of it. There's like, the water is different and that makes the bagels come out bad or like the air is different. Is there any kind of like baked type of thing?
Dax:Well, air being different is New York. Gonna affect Known for
Adam:its excellent water and air quality That's
Dax:what I hear. Maybe maybe the point is not to be excellent. Oh, poor quality.
Adam:Yeah. Okay.
Dax:Just whatever whatever is going on there produces New York and New Jersey's fantastic bagels across the board. Interesting. Know the pizza, like pizza's also like not well replicated across the country and that's also kind of confusing.
Adam:Yeah. What food does Miami have? I mean, you got mangoes. If we had mangoes growing in our backyard, that's what we'd eat for breakfast every day.
Dax:Yeah. Well, mangoes don't grow every single day.
Adam:Oh, that's true.
Dax:Okay. That's what that's what sucks about farming in general. It's like you go most of the year not having something and then for a two month span, you have way too much of it.
Adam:Yeah. You can't spread it out. Yeah. It's like grains you can put in a big silo and, like, last you all year. But tropical fruit, it's just gonna rain down one day.
Dax:No. You gotta make marmalade and that's the best you can do.
Adam:Marmalade. There you go. Yeah. Oh, some mango marmalade sounds really good right now. Sorry.
Dax:We have really good just everything else besides breakfast. Like I have a I mean, isn't you're a vegan so this doesn't work. But like we have a crazy good, like barbecue like but like not like American barbecue, more like South American barbecue, which I really, really like.
Adam:We have that in Kansas City, I hear. There's a lot of barbecue. I'm just trying to relate with you. I'm trying to connect to that. It's all my god.
Adam:I live in the Ozarks. We're close to Kansas City.
Dax:Yeah. So we like, I'm fine everywhere else. It's just the breakfast. Like last week, we we did go brunch and there was we went to a really good spot and it was really delicious. But, you know, it a chicken sandwich.
Dax:I got a chicken sandwich which
Adam:For breakfast? Oh, for brunch.
Dax:And it was really really good but, know, it's not It's not really breakfast. Food.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah. We make a lot of waffles. You Do guys ever make like pancakes or waffles at home?
Dax:No. But there is a spot we go to that does these really good banana pancakes, which I'm not even usually a fan of banana stuff. But banana these are wow, like very good.
Adam:You're not a fan of banana stuff? Oh, man. We eat so many bananas.
Dax:I like bananas themselves. Yeah. I like bananas.
Adam:Just not them in stuff like banana bread or Actually, maybe
Dax:I do like banana stuff.
Adam:You're a banana guy, turns out.
Dax:I'm never out there trying to, like, get banana stuff. But if it's around, I guess I enjoy it.
Adam:We used to buy bananas by the box. And this was before we had the boys. Like, just Casey and I. We bought a literal box of bananas every other week because we freeze them and we make banana ice cream.
Dax:Oh.
Adam:So good. Have you ever had banana ice cream? I feel like most of the world has not had banana ice cream, and you guys are missing out.
Dax:I'll try.
Adam:It's delicious. It just tastes like vanilla ice cream. Oh, okay. You you see, freeze the bananas when they're nice and ripe. Like, a perfect banana goes in the freezer, and then you just blend it up.
Adam:And it makes just the bananas blended up when they're frozen makes this, like, soft serve vanilla ice cream taste and texture.
Dax:It's that easy?
Adam:It's that easy. Well, so there's a bit of a science to, like, one, we're just constantly having to keep bananas in a cycle to where we have, like, green ones, yellow ones, and ripe ones just to keep them flowing into the freezer. But you you sort of, like, peel them and break them into thirds or fourths and put them in a bag so that they're already kinda easy to drop into the blender. You don't just put, a whole banana in there. It's really hard to peel once they're frozen.
Adam:But, yeah, it's that easy. You put them in a blender. If you've got a good blender, we've got a Vitamix that does great with it. You got ice cream in, like, one minute.
Dax:Yeah. There's a bunch of things like that where it's actually easy once you have the logistics down. Yeah. Like There's a little bit of learning. Yeah.
Dax:It's very easy to make but like you need to have certain habits around it. Interesting.
Adam:For stretches, we'd go through different kicks. Like, we'll do chocolate cherry. We'll do, like, cocoa and peanut butter in it. And you can just put whatever in it to flavor it and man, it's good. It's so good.
Adam:And it's bananas. So there's no, like, sugar dump. You don't feel like I don't know, if you eat a big bowl of ice cream.
Dax:Oh, bananas are great. Yeah. I used to and I still eat like, when I was, when I was playing a lot of sports growing up, I'd always just eat bananas in the morning. And sometimes I just click go buy a thing of bananas and eat them during warm up at the beginning because they're like, yeah, perfect. Oh, yeah.
Adam:They're great for pre workout.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're bananas are a good breakfast.
Adam:Oh, yeah. Great breakfast. Do you you eat like all the different varieties of bananas since you have access in Miami? Mysore banana, the best
Dax:banana. Wait, which one?
Adam:Mysore. Those are those Indian? I'm not sure. Tastes like a it literally tastes like a like a green apple. It's delicious.
Dax:Yeah. I I had a banana here last year and I was like, this is the most delicious thing I've ever eaten. But I didn't keep track of like where it came from. Yeah. But, yeah, it's like I think we've already talked about this, but they came off banana and all that.
Adam:We're gonna oh, we're gonna run out of stuff
Dax:to talk about eventually.
Adam:Like, we are not interesting enough people. We're gonna eventually cycle back through every single topic, aren't we?
Dax:Yeah. I guess so.
Adam:Not if tech not if tech keeps on being tech and giving us new things to talk about.
Dax:Well, is there any new things in tech for this week?
Adam:I don't know. I've been really heads down for, like, what feels like a year. Is there anything new going on? What what's yeah. What tell me.
Adam:Catch me
Dax:up. No. That's There's nothing. Let me Aw. There's nothing.
Dax:There is really nothing.
Adam:Oh, I heard, Sentry's donating much of money to open source and people got mad. So it wasn't enough money. Why
Dax:are people like this? It's just like, I can't imagine a more annoying trait than the people.
Adam:Yeah. Who are these people in person? Like, have we ever run into these people in person? Just didn't notice that oh, that's those jerks.
Dax:To me, this is such an egregious thing where someone donates something and your first reaction is to, like, find some way to be upset about it. I don't care about any other personality trait you have. Yeah. That is, like, enough for me to be, like, I don't like, suck. Don't Yeah.
Dax:I I can change you entirely your entire being off of this.
Adam:Are they just bots? Maybe they're not. Maybe, like, the the bull case
Dax:for humanity The is
Adam:person that
Dax:was oh, you know, it was kinda weird. The person that was that initially, like, kicked that off was the founder of Front End Masters, I think.
Adam:Oh, really?
Dax:But not like a rando.
Adam:Kicked off the the negative attention on Sentry?
Dax:Yeah. It's funny because like, he did that thing where he was just he didn't say anything explicitly. He was like, here's how much they raised in VC. Was like 200 something million. Like, clearly, was letting he was like, there's a clear implication there.
Adam:Yeah. But didn't like say explicitly like, they suck. He just let the reader kinda come to that conclusion. Interesting.
Dax:I'm experiencing this thing where I've had a bunch of ways of doing things or opinions that were a little bit at least initially, they were like maybe counterculture or like a little bit opposite or contrarian. Yeah. So you say you take things like working remotely at some at some point that was like pretty contrarian. You take, like not going a typical VC path that was like, at some point kind of contrarian. But enough time has gone by where they're no longer contrarian.
Dax:There's like a lot of people that buy into that stuff. Yeah. But now I'm finding those people extremely annoying. Now, I don't know what to do. It's like, for a while I was very like, you know, not into the whole VC thing and now there's a lot of people that are like, like looking for alternative ways but I find them extremely annoying.
Dax:They're like, they're on my side but they're, like, representing it in, like, this really stupid annoying way.
Adam:Yeah. You can't talk about that.
Dax:It's not like I'm gonna be I'm gonna be pro VC now because, like Yeah. I gotta, like, go against those annoying people. Yeah. Which just makes me wonder if I ever had any rationale or if I was just if I'm just one of those people that just wanna do the opposite.
Adam:You're always just contrarian. You just wanna be the opposite. You know, you really can sound pretty smart if you just take anything a lot of people are saying and say the opposite. Like Yeah. Just the contrarian thing, you can basically just sit there and think for thirty seconds.
Adam:What does everyone seem to agree on? And like, oh, actually, if you look at it from the other angle and you've said stuff about this in the past. Like, it really comes down to judgment, and there is no, like, universal truths in anything. It kinda ties into that. Right?
Dax:Yeah. I think that magic actually because I see people, like, attempt this and, like, completely miss, where they just try to, like, say the opposite and it's, like Oh, yeah. Just a dumb point. I think the key is to look at both sides and explain why both of them are wrong. Yeah.
Dax:That's the only way to really be contrarian because then you're truly on an island by yourself. You can pull that off, I think then you can sound smart.
Adam:Okay. Well, I don't wanna sound smart
Dax:because that sounds like too much work.
Adam:I can't believe I just saw my camera. You haven't said anything about my two black eyes. Did you just was gonna ask. Oh, you were gonna ask. Okay.
Adam:I couldn't tell it. Maybe it wasn't I thought maybe it wasn't showing up as much on camera, which should You be
Dax:can't see it that much. To me, it looks like two little dirt smudges.
Adam:So Okay.
Dax:I don't wanna be like your
Adam:No. Face It was swollen yesterday. They're not so swollen now. Got in a fight at a bar and no. I'm just kidding.
Adam:You do it. It was jiu jitsu. But I've done jujitsu for, like, three months. And for some reason, on back to back days, I got one cheek, like, right below my eye, and then the next day, got the other cheek. Apparently, I can't like, I came back after two weeks.
Adam:I was sick. You know? I haven't trained for a while. Came back and apparently, I'm really bad at defending my face, which I didn't know was a thing.
Dax:Did you hit in the nose?
Adam:No. Just maybe. I don't know.
Dax:I thought black eyes happen because, like, you get hit in the nose and the blood, like, leaks out.
Adam:Well, it's not really a black eye. Like, it's below my eye area. It's kind of more on my cheek.
Dax:Does it hurt?
Adam:Yeah. It did at first. It was just this one was pretty swollen. The other one's pretty small.
Dax:I'm kind of confused because you're not getting punched into the cheek.
Adam:Well, That's what I can't figure out is I don't know, like, I don't know how how it happened to my face. I think somebody was on top of me and just their ghee maybe drove into my my face a little bit. I don't know. But it never happened to me in three months of training and then back to back days, got both my face cheeks. I feel like I should say face cheeks because
Dax:Face cheeks. Thank you for the Yeah.
Adam:The audio only format, you know.
Dax:Whenever you say ghee, it's, like, funny to me because I think about, like, clarified butter, you know. Because I'm sure you guys use that also. Or no, guys. Dice down. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah.
Adam:Gee. Like, g h e e.
Dax:Yeah. That's not how you spell it.
Adam:Yeah. No. It's just g I, gee. Oh. Which is really hard when I'm, like, trying to say plural gies.
Adam:I'm like, my gies? And it's like g I s? Is that right? I don't know. Maybe?
Dax:Is gies a thing? Is that how you say it?
Adam:I don't know. I just never know how to refer to multiple gie. Maybe it's like mice. No. Mouse.
Adam:Mice. What am I thinking of? Oxen? No. What am I thinking what's the animal that's the same it's like deer.
Dax:Deer. Yeah.
Adam:There's not deers. It's just deer.
Dax:Yes.
Adam:There's a really funny like, I think it's Brian Reagan skit about this, like, trying to explain the rules of English, and it was it goes into that stuff. Like so you have, like, ox and more than one ox is oxen. So if you have a box
Dax:Oh, wait. I I did see this. I did Yeah. See
Adam:I'm doing a terrible job.
Dax:Is the one with the he has, like, he has the the clipboard? Not the clipboard. Like, it's like visual? Yeah. Yeah.
Dax:I think so. Yeah.
Adam:Like, he's writing it out, like, okay. That makes sense. So, yeah. I'm doing a terrible job of reenacting it. But
Dax:So, that did remind me for some reason, did you see that Theo is putting together a new course?
Adam:No. Wait, Theo's doing a course?
Dax:No. No. But it's not what you think. It's he call he's calling it DevRel two point o.
Adam:Oh. DevRel course. Okay. So he knows a lot about that.
Dax:Well, it's funny because, he's targeting it at companies, like he's gonna make it very very expensive. So like it's not for like the individual person, which is to me was very clear from what he posted. But then if I look at the replies, it's all like individual people being like, I can't wait to buy this. I'm like, oh. No.
Dax:No. No. He hasn't posted the price. I know the price. Trust me.
Dax:Like, the average person is not gonna buy it. It's like, it makes no sense.
Adam:Is it like the company buys it for, like, the whole company? Like, the whole company has access
Dax:to it? Think that's it's something like that's something like Yeah. It's it's meant to be that the person paying for it is a company.
Adam:Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. It's not like Gotcha. I'm an individual trying to be a DevRel person. This is a course for that. It's Trying to become a DevRel
Adam:and get hired. Yeah. No. It's like your strategy is a DevRel company or is a company who has DevRels. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. And he laid out like what he shared was a bunch of the chapter titles.
Adam:Mhmm.
Dax:And just based off of those, like, think it's all stuff
Adam:that I agree with. I think
Dax:it's all stuff that that we try to do at SST. Yeah. I think it's gonna be really interesting because I like I said, I agree with it. I think it's, you know, most I probably agree with most of it. I think it's probably the right strategy.
Dax:Yeah. To me, it's one of those things where it's actually very simple and very correct but I don't think most companies can pull it off. But this is gonna be the first time it's at least spelled out in a very clear way.
Adam:Yeah. I mean, there's been so little, like, formal anything around DevRel. Right? It just kinda like cropped up out of nowhere and everybody's just kinda winging it.
Dax:He's calling it DevRel two point o because there is like an established somewhat status quo how you do DevRel. It's just companies copying other companies and Yeah. Being like, we need to have this does this. It's not. It's not very effective and I think it's actually, I would say Harmful.
Dax:Best case is neutral. Worst case, I think it actually hurts your company.
Adam:I always go back to Stripe. Everyone loves Stripe. All developers love working with Stripe. And I've never heard of a Stripe DevRel. I'm sure they have them.
Adam:But like, they just have really good docs and really good API. And, like Yeah. Devs wanna use it because they have those things. Is it is that too simplified?
Dax:I think there's, like, a spectrum of companies. There's companies that are like Stripe where, okay, you have an API, your product is an API, so you need to make stuff that faces developers. I would say that's like on the spectrum of stuff in the DevTool world, that's like the lightest way you can Yeah. Be a DevTool. Then the other extreme is something like a gastro where it's like Yeah.
Dax:You know, a much deeper thing.
Adam:Developer experience.
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. And you know, obviously there's like different strategies depending on where you land. But I found this stuff that is targeted at developers like more directly, like stuff that's very important, key parts of your framework or like your database or things like that. Yeah, I've overall found like the DevRel approach to be completely ineffective.
Dax:And on some level, I'm like a little worried because I feel like we have actually figured it out at SST and I'm like, I don't I don't want
Adam:Oh, no. And he's gonna make a course that shares your secrets? Oh, no. Yeah.
Dax:I mean, it's always stupid to think that way because ultimately what I believe is this stuff is actually very simple and I don't think even if it's spelled out for the vast majority of people in this space that it's actually gonna yeah. I I think what with this type of thing, what happens is people like ingest information and they're really excited by it and they agree with it. And they turn around and they just continue to do the same stuff but now rationalize it somehow as like, oh, this is technically I'm technically doing this but Yeah yeah yeah. They're actually not. Yeah.
Dax:I was thinking like, who's the actual target for something like this? I think any established company, I feel like it's very unlikely for them to be able to change their culture. I think a good target for it is like people founding companies now deciding like what do we wanna do about this whole part of our business. I don't think companies should have really think of it as like, we need to spin up like DevRel, like, it feels just like not the right way to think about it. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. And it gets like conflated with marketing too. I think the only part of the matter that matters, especially for early stage companies, is the marketing aspect of it. And it's weird to like externalize that into this separate role.
Adam:Mhmm. You're something of a DevRel yourself. You could have made a course. Oh, you could do your the consulting or something.
Dax:Yeah. One I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, I have developed a bunch of skills while trying to build a company. Yeah. And there's always a pathway for me to like go and sell those skills separately from trying to build a company. The underlying implication is I failed at building the company if I go to do that.
Dax:So it's a nice like fallback if I do fail. But realistically, I rather just keep trying to build another company to build another Yeah. Company till one of them succeeds. So yeah, I find this thing with my career where it to me, like I get this like clear image of me like, like sowing seeds and like growing a bigger and bigger crop. But like never actually harvesting it.
Dax:Because I know if I like wait one more year, it'll grow even bigger. If I wait another year, it'll grow even bigger. At some point, I will have to do that if, you know, the things I'm trying to do don't work out. But Yeah. The one thing I think I feel like I did right in my career is I've like deferred that like gratification.
Dax:The payout? Yeah. Yeah, much longer. And I I think the longer you wait, the bigger it is once you do decide to to harvest it.
Adam:Yeah. It's so much of life, right? Like most good things just come from delaying gratification.
Dax:Yeah. It's hard to do.
Adam:Yeah. It's really easy to slip into the, like, what's the thing that feels best right now.
Dax:Yeah. Especially when there's so many there's constantly opportunities, like, all the time to just get a good quick win. Mhmm. Yeah. And like everyone around you, you also see them taking it and you see their lives like progressing in certain ways.
Dax:So that also makes it makes it challenging. Mhmm. It's probably one of hardest things about I think one of the hardest things about starting and doing a company is that if you're someone that could make a company successful, you're very competent. And because you're very competent, there's like a million opportunities always around you Yeah. At any given time.
Dax:So it's hard to like ignore those and focus on the thing while everyone else around you is kind of taking advantage of them. Yep. That's the hardest part.
Adam:Yep. I hear you and as I'm hearing you, I'm thinking, am I actually the person you're describing?
Dax:Well, I mean, you did. You you you you I think you're just ahead of me on that, like, life cycle because you did that already with like, had those years where you, you know Maybe. Company, right?
Adam:Yeah. No, I definitely did but yeah.
Dax:Because you you went from making a good amount of money consulting to then Yeah. Not making any money for a while. Yeah. I did that. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. So that's kind of the phase I'm in right now.
Adam:Yeah. I'm always trying to figure this out. It was ever since Aaron said, I'm semi retired. I just had to bring that in here because last time we said it, he he said something on Twitter. Yeah.
Adam:Man, that had
Dax:such an impact on you. Do you not wanna be retired?
Adam:I don't maybe I I do wanna be retired. I don't wanna receive to do that. I don't wanna be retired. I really enjoy what I do. Like, I can't imagine ever stopping doing stuff with technology.
Adam:I do wish, like, just and this is a more societal thing, not like my specific case. I wish there was some way society could have been oriented in such a way that when your kids are young, you could have more time with them and, like, you're not putting off your livelihood or, like, lessening your opportunities by spending time with your young kids. Because it's like this weird, like, peak of your career, peak of your, like, family enjoyment potential all at the same time. And it's just like, what do you do with that? I'm just kinda like, you're gonna look back and you're gonna be retired when your kids are gone and be like, all those years.
Adam:I could have just been chilling with them and then working now. I'm not gonna lose my mind at 50.
Dax:Like, I'm still gonna be able to
Adam:do this stuff. I don't know.
Dax:Yeah. It's just hard though because, like, you need to build up that foundation. Yeah. And it's like any any time delayed.
Adam:Yeah. I don't see I don't see any solutions. I don't I don't know that there is. I just it sucks that that's the way things work.
Dax:Well, I have this funny thing where, because people live all kinds of lives. So my landlord, super interesting, crazy, quirky, weird dude. I saw this video, a video. So my doorbell camera, captured footage of him. Okay?
Adam:With his consent or without?
Dax:Without. I mean, it's there. It's not hidden. Like, knows it's there. But I mean, there's a reason I didn't post it publicly but I did share it with my team because so he's in his fifties.
Adam:Mhmm.
Dax:I would guess he's probably worth like, maybe close to $10,000,000 or something like that. He owns like a bunch of houses in my neighborhood and the the values in that neighborhood have gone up like crazy in the past five to ten years. He's worth a lot of money. Okay? And he randomly showed up to my house to like bleach my deck to like clean it.
Dax:Wow. And you see him like going insane with his broom, just like grunting and just like just working super hard and cleaning the crap out of this. And I'm like Yeah. This is a guy in his fifties and he's worth like a crazy amount of money and like, look how hard he's working. It was like an inspiring thing to me to see the amount of energy and vitality he has Wow.
Dax:At his age and like when he should just be relaxing. But the other interesting part is he just had a baby. He had a baby girl
Adam:she Oh, born like
Dax:a month ago and he has two other kids that are like under four years old. Or maybe that got three kids total and they're all under five.
Adam:So had kids late in life.
Dax:Yeah. And his wife's a lot younger. But he was he was talking to Liz the other day and he was like, he actually likes the way his life turned out because he's like, he does work hard but he's at a phase of his life where everything's set up and he spends a lot of time with his kids and he's got a lot of energy still, like he's like he's very very alive for his age. Yeah. So that there's a good trade off, right, like he's not gonna see he might not see his grandkids just because like
Adam:Age wise, yeah.
Dax:Yeah. Like that doesn't work out but he gets to spend a lot of really active time with his kids because like their family is like really really well set up. There's no like big thing he's gonna do in the do still in his career.
Adam:Is that season. I guess, like, that's what retirement is if if that exists for us. It's just where you're not really trying to, like, start new companies or trying to, like, bigger and bigger.
Dax:The biggest thing you will do has already kind of been done. Yeah. But yeah. So he, like, retired and then I mean, he's not really retired but, like, he's pseudo retired and then he got kids.
Adam:But he kinda got to do
Dax:what you said in reverse.
Adam:The reverse thing. Yeah. I don't know why that would be I guess, like, traditionally, a lot of, like, manual labor. It just makes sense to do that when you're younger, which is when people generally have kids. But, yeah, I guess you could have kids at an older age.
Dax:Yeah. I mean, if you're a man, I guess. Yeah.
Adam:Man. Uh-huh. Yeah. That sucks. Okay.
Dax:But, I mean, yeah. So the two things. One, he did that and two, like, it's just so weird imagining someone so rich, like, doing in such intense manual labor.
Adam:Yeah. But, yeah, just
Dax:like an impressive, interesting, weird guy.
Adam:This is in Miami or did you say it was in New York?
Dax:No. It's in Miami. This is our current landlord.
Adam:In your current? Okay. Gotcha.
Dax:Mhmm.
Adam:You still you still have the apartment up there?
Dax:Yeah, we do. We're like we're like just getting squeezed from every every angle. The maintenance fees are going up, the tax are going up, the mortgage
Adam:But you can't payments sell it. I can't remember. You can't sell it because
Dax:We're gonna put it on the market this the next summer.
Adam:Mhmm.
Dax:Because that's when our tenant leases up. We're gonna see if someone buys it. Really skeptical that someone's gonna go get a 7% mortgage to then buy this one bedroom apartment in New York for an amount that at least breaks us even on the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Dax:It's like it seems kind of unlikely. We're gonna listen and we're gonna see. But, yeah, we definitely need to get rid of that thing.
Adam:We moved to Florida and had a house in the Ozarks that we had built and we spent way too much building it. And we we didn't ever think we were gonna get what we put into it out of it, but we didn't know how much less we we would get. We took a huge, huge haircut. Is that the word? Shaving.
Adam:That sucked. And then what really sucks okay. This is just Adam's bad at finances. So we build a house. We sell it for, I don't know, 60% of what we built it for.
Dax:Wow.
Adam:And then, like, three years later when the market was crazy, the guy who bought it from us sold it for, 30% more than we put into it.
Dax:Oh my god.
Adam:That's fun.
Dax:Here's the thing. There's some people in life where they just nail timing is just a blessing for them. I've never been that person. No. Same.
Dax:Like my current landlord, exactly that. He was born in this neighborhood and he slowly acquired houses here and randomly, without anyone predicting it, it just went through the roof. Yeah. He paid so little for all the houses he owns. Yeah.
Dax:Yeah. He was blessed by timing. I've never had that once I in my
Adam:was terrible at it. And like Yeah. In that case, we built the house thinking it was our forever home. We were never gonna leave it, so we didn't care how much it costs. And, like, we're not gonna sell it.
Adam:But then, like, a few years passed, we had a kid and Casey just wanted to be somewhere warm. And it's like, okay, we're doing it. Yeah. It's just like is that impulsiveness maybe? Is that why timing's ever on my side?
Adam:I don't know. I'm I'm bad with
Dax:timing. I think that to me is maybe the opposite of impulsiveness in some ways. Like you thought you were never gonna be you thought like things would never change but then they come in as, you know, inevitably we do. That's another thing that I've gone through a few things in my life where sometimes I'll like be so into some way of living or something and I can't imagine ever not wanting that. Yeah.
Dax:And then inevitably, I, like, start to want something different Yeah. After
Adam:enough Yeah. Time goes you kinda almost forget that, like, you used to have that as part of your life Yeah. When it seemed like such a fundamental thing. Like, for me, Larabars. I used to eat, like, three Larabars a day.
Dax:Me too.
Adam:I ran a Larabart in months. I I remember I used to I used to say to myself, like, how am I not, like, 20 pounds overweight when I ate, like, three Larabars a day? And now I've lost 20 pounds and I don't eat Larabars. Like, oh, okay.
Dax:Lost 20 pounds overweight. I've grown to this funny thing where I am the heaviest I've ever been in my life, but not I don't I don't think I'm overweight. I think I'm just like, I'm going the gym more. But I'm trying to get to 1.5 x my body weight squatting. But
Adam:Oh, squatting. I just heard you say I thought you were saying you're trying to gain like, be one and a half thousands.
Dax:I was
Adam:like, that's a lot of weight gain. What what are you gonna do with all that weight? Okay. Squatting one and a half. Gotcha.
Adam:Gotcha.
Dax:Squat one. That's like my goal. Like, I think I I gotcha. Do that. I'm gonna be satisfied and try to maintain that.
Dax:But my weight just keeps going up as I get stronger. Target is target has shifted so much.
Adam:That's funny.
Dax:And I'm like, is it even possible? Like, am I just gonna keep gaining weight?
Adam:Eventually, it's gotta taper off. Right?
Dax:Yeah. Yeah. But it is funny because like, I I I hadn't weighed myself in several months and I've been noticing that I'm like hitting like new highs on all my lifts and it's like kind of been easy. And I weighed myself, I'm like, oh, I'm like, literally, my my scale keeps track of like every single data point and when you weigh yourself, it shows the next data point. It shot up by like 15 pounds because I had I had gained 15 pounds the last time I I weighed myself.
Dax:Oh, since
Adam:the last time yeah. Have you ever been so much heavier or lighter that it didn't know it was you? Like, it because we have multiple people in the household, so it's like me and Casey. And it like, after you stand out for a second, it, like, lights up like ADA. Like, that's me.
Adam:Okay. And then one time I got on there and I was I can't remember what direction, but I was so different from the last time I had weighed. It was like two years later or something.
Dax:You're the person.
Adam:I don't Yeah. It didn't know who it was. It was like question mark. It says nobody in your household.
Dax:Yeah. But I was like, okay, this is why, like, all my okay. It's been easy at the gym because I just I just gained weight. That that that's so much of it. Like, if you're just bigger, you can just lift more.
Adam:I know. It makes sense. Like Yeah. The bigger people just get that for free. How do you when you lift, like, do you do, like, programs?
Adam:Like, for squatting, you wanna get to 1.5 extra weight. What is your, like, a process?
Dax:I do something very, very simple. And I've been doing this for years and it's worked for me. I just do three sets when I'm in the gym. Mhmm. First two sets are five reps and the last set is as many as I can do.
Dax:Oh, nice. I increase by five pounds every single day
Adam:Every time.
Dax:That I go in
Adam:there Yeah.
Dax:Unless I can't hit five on the last.
Adam:Like if you can't yeah. If you're not hitting it, then you drop it down.
Dax:Yeah. And it's like an extremely slow progression.
Adam:I mean, but it's it sounds like a good approach.
Dax:Yeah. It's like very slow progression but because it's slow, like, you don't often like, the lifts actually feel pretty easy every single day I go in. Yeah. It's like little bit challenging, but not crazy hard. And somehow the next day, I can do a little bit more.
Adam:I feel like I need somebody in there in the gym with me making me do stuff. Because I remember in high school, like, football, was I able to lift crazy amounts of weight. All my lifts were just nuts. Now looking back being like, how is a 17 year old me able to just, like, run circles around adult me in terms of weightlifting? And it's like, oh, yeah.
Adam:I had, like, a strength and conditioning coach forcing me to do it all.
Dax:No. I don't think so. I think it's because you were 17. Like, I remember when I was that age, I was like, I could literally run forever. I, like, never get tired.
Dax:Just never get tired.
Adam:But, like, I I go in the gym now and I just feel very uninspired. It's like, even coming up with what I'm gonna work on that day, it's like, I know I wanna do push stuff today. Like, I'm gonna do bench, and I'm gonna do whatever. It's like I I just fall into the, I don't know, three by five or five by five or whatever, and I'm just
Dax:gonna raise the weight a little bit. That's something that's all I
Adam:do too. It just feels like I'm not, like, pushing myself the way I would push myself if someone made me do something I didn't wanna do.
Dax:Well, like, are you still increasing?
Adam:Yeah. I do plateau pretty often. I feel like I'll go good for, like, two, three weeks, and then I feel like I'm not really progressing and it's hard to do any more weight, that kind of stuff.
Dax:Yeah. Mean, you plateau, you probably have to switch it up somehow. If you're trying to grow more because I think for me, my goal is I wanna get to a certain level and I'm gonna completely switch it up and try to maintain. So I'm not like trying to get to like some crazy high weight, really.
Adam:Yeah. I'm not either. I mean, there's certain things I wish that I could do, like, that I could do when I was younger. But I'm not like I have no specific goals really. I just wanna be stronger mostly for jujitsu.
Adam:Just wanna
Dax:Yeah.
Adam:I don't know.
Dax:That makes sense. I really like, Adam Wathen's, routine but I don't wanna do that until I'm at like, I hit all like my base
Adam:So what's his routine? Cycles.
Dax:It's like, it's pretty simple. Like, he just walks with a weighted vest and he does some kind of like, circuit with like pull ups and like, just like very basic things that you don't need to go to a gym for.
Adam:Yeah, with a weighted vest.
Dax:My gym is very close, it's very convenient but would really like to just work out at home. Yeah. And all the stuff he does, could just do at home but you like need to I don't think you can like just do that. I think you need to like get to a certain level and then that's what you do for maintenance. Yeah.
Dax:But yeah, I'm like working towards being able to do that. And the the walking with the weighted vest also, I I can like walk Zuko and it like kind of kills two birds.
Adam:Yeah. I do that. I We have a ruck vest. I I do a lot of those. It's nice.
Adam:What
Dax:how much harder is it? Like, does it actually, like, meaningfully make a difference?
Adam:It depends. Like, if I do it with 30 pounds, I can walk three or four miles. And I I know early on when I was first doing it, I noticed it. Like, my heart rate was higher than if I just did a walk without it.
Dax:But
Adam:if you do, like, fifty, sixty pounds, now we're talking. Like, I do a mile and I I want it off my shoulders and I'm sweating. Like, I'm I'm feeling it.
Dax:But what does it feel like? Does it feel running or does it feel like something else?
Adam:Something else. I mean, it doesn't I hate running. I don't feel like I ever need to stop when I'm walking with a RuckBest. It's just like the pain on my shoulders, just overall the exhaustion, like, I'm ready to be done. Like, I can't go further than a mile or so with a lot of weight.
Dax:And how does it work? It comes with weights that you put in?
Adam:Yeah. So, like, we have one from GORUCK, and it just has, like, a a plate, like
Dax:Slot?
Adam:Slot, yeah, is the word, guess. And then you buy the plates different weights. I see.
Dax:Yeah. And you can you can go up to like fifty, sixty pounds.
Adam:So I think the plates crazy. I think the the heaviest plate is 30, but the one we have is like a backpack. So I put the 30 pound in the slot and then I put a 20 pound just in the backpack in the back of it. So it's not ideal in terms of the way the weight's distributed on your back, but it works. I see.
Adam:Okay. Interesting.
Dax:Yeah. I wanna get into that.
Adam:It's nice. It it just, like, makes walks more meaningful. It gives you, like, a little more bang for
Dax:your buck. Like, it's really nice walking around here, so it's it's a good option. And, yeah, I was trying to understand, like, if it actually made that much of a difference because
Adam:Yeah. If you put enough weight in there, I get to sweating. I mean, it's it's very different from a walk. And even just with the lighter weight for me, it's like you can look at the heart rate charts and it's definitely a higher heart rate than if I walked without it.
Dax:I'm gonna put it on Zuko's vest too. He's got
Adam:a little There you go.
Dax:He's got a little vest. It's actually it has, like, slots for things, so I can weigh him down too. Get him tired more time.
Adam:Yeah. It's hard to get big dogs like that
Dax:Yeah. To actually I'm not joking. It's like a thing that people do. They like Yeah.
Adam:Makes sense.
Dax:Weighted weighted walks for their dogs. Yeah.
Adam:You gotta wear them out. Big dogs like that, the young dogs especially, they got energy.
Dax:I've been doing this thing where, I tried to sprint across my front yard and like, juke him out and I go back and forth. And so it's this funny thing where like, he'll fall for any fake very easily but he can recover instantly. So it's like, it's very challenging. I gotta do like spin moves, I gotta do like a head fake and and all of that. It's fun.
Dax:I'm gonna put together a highlight video.
Adam:Oh, yes, please. Let's get that on Twitter ASAP. Maybe that'll start a trend. Everybody juking their dogs. You ever gonna stream again?
Dax:I I think about it, like, twice a week.
Adam:I was
Dax:like, woah.
Adam:Got cleaned up my office and I actually plugged in my other camera. Like, I got all ready. I I fixed my overlays. They were kinda broken.
Dax:Woah. I That's a lot of
Adam:know. I might start well, this one morning I couldn't sleep and I woke up, 02:30 and I just started doing all this. Wow. I might get back into it. We'll see.
Adam:I'm gonna do it at least once before TwitchCon, which is next week, which is Thursday.
Dax:Oh, yeah. When are you leaving?
Adam:Thursday next week.
Dax:Next week. Okay. Yes.
Adam:I gotta
Dax:I gotta like I gotta keep myself busy that week so I don't feel So you don't
Adam:watch the It's Twitter gonna be so it's everybody. I can't believe how many dev streamers. Like, it's you and it's Tiege. They're the only people that I know that are developers streaming that aren't gonna be there. It's nuts.
Dax:I wish I was doing like a surprise arrival. I'm not.
Adam:Wish you were too. I wish. Oh, I'm gonna hold on to hope that it might happen.
Dax:Oh, it's not happening. Okay. Yeah. Bites to Vegas though, shockingly cheap.
Adam:Really? I mean, Vegas is awful. It's kind of the worst.
Dax:So The MyGetMeToVegas route, I think is very popular. Oh, yeah? Flights are very cheap.
Adam:Oh, yeah. I guess more people doing it makes it cheaper. That makes sense.
Dax:Yeah. I think they might even be like subsidized somehow by the casinos or something. It's like
Adam:Oh, wow.
Dax:It's like stupid cheap. Does it make any sense?
Adam:It's not stupid cheap to fly from the Ozarks to anywhere because we have to connect.
Dax:Just stay there. Never leave.
Adam:That's basically the plan. Yeah. You're gonna move if
Dax:you live somewhere like that, you just gotta stay there. Yeah. Nobody else wants to see you around.
Adam:Stop it. Alright. I gotta pee. That's always the ending. Oh, we did it one exactly one hour.
Adam:Like one zero zero and some seconds, but who's counting? Alright. See you next.
Dax:See you.
