Home Assistant, Bad Knees, Sous Vide, and LLMs
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Speaker 2:on Twitter. Oh my god. What the hell?
Speaker 1:Oh, it's funny.
Speaker 2:Okay. I fixed it. There we go.
Speaker 1:Way to go, Dax.
Speaker 2:Why do
Speaker 1:you have so many buttons and knobs in your system? Why is it so like, you have to you have to open the floodgate for my volume to come through. I don't understand.
Speaker 2:It's because whenever I record with I was recording with someone, it's not worth explaining. We have zero viewers.
Speaker 1:Hey, I wanna be the first viewer. Can you send me the link? Or did you tweet the link?
Speaker 2:I I sent it to you here.
Speaker 1:This is a riveting start to a podcast, really. I hope this is all in it.
Speaker 2:Does anyone use this? I've like never I don't think I've ever seen this.
Speaker 1:I think I did it the first time I streamed. Like before I streamed to Twitch, I tried streaming to Twitter and everyone was like, no audio. I was like, awesome. If you can't hear me, this is probably pretty dumb. Okay.
Speaker 1:I see us. I see your faces on Twitter.
Speaker 2:Okay. So now
Speaker 1:And that's a tweet?
Speaker 2:I don't think it got posted. So I've used because I used because we used to use StreamYard and it would stream to Twitter, but it would like make a post. So I'm gonna try making a post.
Speaker 1:Make a post. Let's try making Trying a
Speaker 2:this Twitter live thing.
Speaker 1:By the way, you're good at Twitter. You're really good at Twitter, Dax. And I just noticed you have 15,000 followers. And I'm so glad I got into 20 before you beat me to 20 because you're gonna beat me to every other milestone.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I've had a lot of growth this year. I feel like something clicked for me in January.
Speaker 1:Just found the right blend of grandma challenges and being a jerk. Oh,
Speaker 2:okay. It works. I tweeted. I tweeted and it's embedded in my tweet which is great.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's just there. Our faces are right there on your timeline. Look at us.
Speaker 2:Look at us. Look at us. Hey. Look at us.
Speaker 1:Look at us.
Speaker 2:Who would
Speaker 1:have thought? Not me. I'm a viewer. We have one viewer. It's me.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I guess this will be good. It's good actually for the podcast because we don't really wanna interact when we're recording the podcast. It's weird to, like, talk to Twitch chat, and we probably won't be able to interact this way. Like, I don't think we're gonna be seeing people tweet and I don't know. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think this makes sense. And, like our audience is bigger on Twitter so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll see how this works.
Speaker 1:We'll see if we get above one viewer. That'd be great. It's still
Speaker 2:just one viewer.
Speaker 1:What the hell is this? It's fine. It's fine. I'll retweet it. How about that?
Speaker 1:Someone corrected me. It's x live, not Twitter live. Oh, x live.
Speaker 2:We're at eight eight viewers now.
Speaker 1:Look at that. Oh. There are people listening to us record. I mean, normally, there would be people listening on Twitch but we'll take Twitter.
Speaker 2:It feels different than Twitch somehow. I feel like more nervous because I've never done this before.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It does because it's a different group. Like, Twitch is just it's all the degenerates. It's like just a bunch of doofuses that we know. Twitter, it's like, I don't know who those 20,000 people that follow me are.
Speaker 1:I have no idea who those people are.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:I know, like, 10 of them.
Speaker 2:All the people that followed you because they like your house.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Basically. There's still a person that wants me to send the the layout, the blueprint for my house. I don't know if they're planning on building the exact house. Like, they just wanna build my house wherever they live.
Speaker 2:I just had a funny thought that they're
Speaker 1:gonna rob you. Like, they're like, planning a heist. Heist. They're playing out like a little treasure map. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. We actually enable our alarm now. Just putting that out there into the world. We have an alarm and it's actively monitoring.
Speaker 2:Enable it now.
Speaker 1:Well, I've had it for, I don't know, six months and we didn't turn it on. Do you have you ever done that? Have ever bought an alarm system and then like just you don't want to arm it because you hate false alarms? We hate false alarms so bad.
Speaker 2:Well, so I set up, like a homemade alarm system through Home Assistant.
Speaker 1:Sounds sounds sketch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. But it's but it's it's, it's I think it's both effective and comedic and I'll explain why. I think I talked about this before, I don't know. But, so Home Assistant literally lets me connect any device, Any device to it so that it can be controlled by literally a toaster. My car, I connected my car and it like knows like everything about my car, the door's open.
Speaker 2:Because some it's open source so people build plugins for everything. Someone reverse engineered the app for my car What? And then bridged it to this thing. And so Home Assistant
Speaker 1:Wait. Your car has an app?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think I need like wait. You have a Tesla, don't you? I'm sure Tesla's have apps.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Mean, it has an app, but I expect that. But what's your car? What is what what do you drive?
Speaker 2:My car was the number one rated car in 02/2022, Adam.
Speaker 1:Did you
Speaker 2:hunt this out? Ioniq five.
Speaker 1:Is that why you bought it?
Speaker 2:Why is that ridiculous? It's it's literally It's ridiculous. It's just It's a purchase.
Speaker 1:No. I just feel like I learned something about you that like I don't know how I didn't know this about you that you look up the best thing and then you you get the best thing.
Speaker 2:Always. Always. I always look up well, my purchase decision with my car was actually pretty simple. We know we needed, like a sedan wasn't big enough for us. We wanted a crossover.
Speaker 2:Crossover. Yeah. Crossover. Like everyone else in the world, everyone just has a crossover. Now it's like the default car.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And we wanted to go electric. I didn't like the Model Y, and there were like two other options and then the one of the options, the Hyundai Ioniq five happened to be like crazy crazy well rated, like people were everyone was super obsessed
Speaker 1:with it. So it was just an obvious choice.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But yes, it has an app and Home Assistant has like this nice abstraction where there's like things that are sensors and there's things that are that can like be controlled, like you take actions on them. And it exposes all that stuff. Like this this guy's plug in exposes all that stuff in there. So I there's like a sensor for each one of my doors so I can like detect if one door is left open or Yeah.
Speaker 2:If the trunk is open or, there's like also a gauge for like, you know, how much mileage, like all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So Can you control it? Can you like flashlights or honk the horn? I can turn
Speaker 2:on the air conditioning.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I can I can, like, tell like, before I'm about to leave my house, I can say, hey, go
Speaker 1:to Yeah? The
Speaker 2:then, like, two minutes later
Speaker 1:That Miami heat, you gotta get it cooled down.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's great. It's a great feature. But because you can set up all kinds of workflows and automations, you can effectively build alarm situations. So I can do stuff like if my car door is opened after midnight, turn on all the lights in my house and like blast music on all my speakers.
Speaker 2:Oh, jeez. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I've seen I've seen people do this kind of thing where like, it's not a normal alarm that goes off. It's like, you're going to die and like the lights turn red
Speaker 2:and Yeah, exactly. It's actually extremely easy. I haven't done it. I haven't done I do wanna do that because it's hilarious. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's and it's very easy. It's like extremely easy to set up.
Speaker 1:Well, you have to have all the do you have like color changing bulbs and everything? Did did you go that far? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pretty much all my lights are either smart switches or they're color changing bulbs.
Speaker 1:And do you use Hue?
Speaker 2:No. I don't use Hue.
Speaker 1:Because Hue bulbs are like five times more expensive than anything else. I don't know how they've gotten away with it. Have you have you looked at the prices?
Speaker 2:So I have I have one Hue device. So behind my TV, there is a strip of LEDs that I stuck behind there. And so when I watch movies, there's like
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:It changes the edges, like whatever clogs at the edges of TV, like, that LED also goes off. So you get this like crazy nice immersive experience. That one is a Hue, but Hue sucks now because they all need the additional hub.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I hate the hub thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So now there's common protocols for everything, like Matter and Thread. So pretty much any device you buy as long as Matter or Thread certified, it'll just work when Those you bring it are much
Speaker 1:better brand names than the previous Zigbee? Zigbee. Well, it's built
Speaker 2:on top oh, it's built on top of Zigbee. Yeah. So I like went through it and I I saw that, okay, finally we've converged on some standardization after like fifteen years of this stuff. Yeah. And yeah, so now like everything like just works.
Speaker 2:I have my Home Assistant box, my one box I need. Any device I buy, like it has a way
Speaker 1:to just To connect to the home assistant.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not worried about like, is this compatible with this and is that compatible with this other thing? Like, all those different combinations. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So
Speaker 1:When you buy stuff, like, when you research, do you end up like in the forums? Like, that's where the real hardcore knowledge is. You end up like
Speaker 2:I usually end up I start on Reddit. Like, I'll
Speaker 1:Reddit search yeah. Reddit's its own brand of but like, there's like the weird dedicated 1995 forums for like everything. They're super old. I love those. I guess Reddit has replaced a lot
Speaker 2:of that. I'll start on Red to just get like the sense of the option. So I did this when I was looking for a grill and I ended up with the Kamado Joe. Highly recommend.
Speaker 1:Buying things is fun.
Speaker 2:So I went on Reddit to then to just be like, okay, best grills Reddit, that's what I searched and I found a few threads and I'll get like a list of like five to 10 options. Then I'll go down their YouTube rabbit hole to find like the one weird guy that just obsessed Yeah. With this thing and has like a detailed review on each one. And at that point and then sometimes I end up on on some of those weird forums as well. Like I there was some like meat forum that I ended up on Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which is really funny.
Speaker 1:I I visit that one all the time. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're I forgot. I forgot. This is like a alien topic for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There's a when we were buying a mattress, we ended up on there's a site I still remember, Sleep Like The Dead. Have you ever been to Sleep Like The Dead?
Speaker 2:I have heard of this. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now that I wish every category of product had a site that good because it's like it's so neutral. It's like refreshing. You just when you spend time reading, like, the blog posts that TopRanked SEO stuff, like, it's just all garbage and it's all affiliate links. But you find a site like that and it's like, you know you can trust every word they wrote because they're just so unbiased and they're so at the the root of it. Like, they're trying to cut to the the truth.
Speaker 1:Love it. I wish every I'm always looking for that type of site. It's hard to find.
Speaker 2:There's always just like one weird person or a group of weird people that have just like are obsessive about this one thing and won't do that. Uh-huh. I'm looking for a new mouse right now and Theo linked me to this guy that's like just obsessed with mice. And he has his website and it's he has like a huge list of every single one and he has like a standard way if he has evaluating every single one. Every single mouse has a video and then submit a ranking.
Speaker 2:I saw that and I was like, great. I'm just gonna pick I'm just gonna look at the top three and just pick one of those and Yeah. I'm good to go.
Speaker 1:Dale's good with products. He knows he knows products. He he finds good ones.
Speaker 2:And if he doesn't, he knows that weird guy always. Like, I never heard of this mouse guy. Like, everyone needs a mouse and I haven't come across this.
Speaker 1:There's a guy. There's always a guy or a girl for every every topic.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Why do we like buying things so much? Why is it what there's something fun about shopping, about buying things.
Speaker 2:I love feeling like I got the best thing. Yeah. Love No, same. Doing my research. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And for me, the buying process and the research process is like so enjoyable. I know some people hate it and they just want to make a decision. I don't like agonize over the decision, I like like that process
Speaker 1:Oh, same.
Speaker 2:Of discovering the best thing. Yeah. It's very fun.
Speaker 1:No, it's it's most of the fun of it. I like, I love just kind of like discovering a new subculture because like you said, there's there's people that are obsessed with this thing that you just thought was like a thing you need to buy, but there's like a whole community around it. I love that. I do. I love getting up to speed and and trying to sift through all the noise.
Speaker 2:I also like, and I don't I think we all shop a lot more online and we usually have like a specific thing we wanna buy and we'll do research for it. But there's a there's a Home Depot walking distance of me and sometimes I just go there because I like walks go that way and I'll walk through the Home Depot. I just like going through there because there's all this stuff I didn't know exists existed and just like going through the eyes
Speaker 1:and like, woah, that's a thing
Speaker 2:or woah, that's a thing.
Speaker 1:I get kind of overwhelmed in places like that. Lois, Home Depot. I just I'm so disconnected from that world.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh. I mean, if you have no purpose of being there, you're just kinda I'm just like perusing. So Yeah. It's it's fun. I'm like, woah, can attach this thing to my hose?
Speaker 2:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:I like oh, so okay. The same experience I have with kitchen stores. I like to go in kitchen stores Mhmm. Because there's always a new gadget that they've come up with, like a new way to peel a very specific thing with, like, a device made just for that thing. And it's always it's amazing.
Speaker 1:But every year, they keep coming out with new stuff. Those people, we should put them in charge of more things. Put them in the material sciences or something. They're good at discovering. They've come up with more ways to cut things.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Those those, like, single purpose kitchen items. It's funny because when you because because I lived in New York for so long, those are like the culture around the like people hate those things because nobody has space in their kitchen. It's like a single purpose there's a phrase like a single use kitchen, whatever appliance, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah. People hate them
Speaker 2:because they're like, this is so dumb. Like, why would you buy a thing just for this one purpose? But, my my friend's parents who live in Arizona, they had this huge amazing kitchen. They literally have every single one of those things and it is awesome. Like, I remember one time he was telling me that he was, visiting his parents and they were gonna make burgers and they were like, oh my god, we can't make them.
Speaker 2:We have to go to the store first. And he's like, why? He's like, but we don't have those like little rings that you like put in
Speaker 1:the pan
Speaker 2:so you put the meat in to ship
Speaker 1:That's the meat like the level they're at. We've got
Speaker 2:the Yeah. His dad has this thing where, I mean, I have this too now but, so a sous vide, which I think we have we talked about sous vide before? Do you have a sous vide?
Speaker 1:I don't know what that is. Is that is that a thing that attaches to the toilet and shoots water instead of paper? Is that a bidet? No. A bidet.
Speaker 1:It is related to water though.
Speaker 2:It is related to water. So you're close. Basically, it's a way of precisely cooking food and it's good for vegetables and meat. So you guys might be interested in this. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Basically, it's like a cylindrical thing. It clips into like a container of water. So it might be like a big just like a rectangle bucket of water. Yeah. Or you put it in there.
Speaker 2:A A pot or Is that
Speaker 1:stored you're
Speaker 2:looking at? Okay. No. But I mean, people usually use it with like these these like rectangle containers.
Speaker 1:Okay. So cylinder down in the water.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Then you take your food which, you know, we usually make steaks. You put them in a bag, you kind of press the air out and then you drop the bag in the in the water. The Okay. The device, the sous vide device will bring the water to a very specific temperature.
Speaker 2:It's crazy accurate. It's like off by like point five degrees Mhmm. And it'll hold there and your food basically gets brought to a exact precise temperature with no effort from you. So like gets cooked to the exact temperature you want.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And for a steak, you take it out, then you like sear it on both sides on the pan, which takes like another two minutes and you have literally a perfect steak every single time.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And it works for all kinds of all kinds of foods like different meats, different vegetables, things like that.
Speaker 1:Like, grill bros, like, people who are really into their grilling.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Do they
Speaker 1:do they like turn their nose up at this stuff? Is this like nerd way of cooking?
Speaker 2:Sort of. But it's one of those things that everyone just loves. I feel like it's just like a beloved thing because you can sous vide a steak and then toss it on the grill for the finals here. To kind of get Yeah. A mix of both.
Speaker 2:Because when you you have to like put in a lot of effort to cook a steak correctly because you might overcook it, but you still want the sear. So this is an amazing device. But my friend's dad, he takes to a next level where he he has like a vacuum sealer as well and he'll buy like just like a ton, like a 100 steaks and vacuum seal them all and put them in the freezer. And whenever he wants a perfect steak, he just pulls it out, drops it in the sous vide,
Speaker 1:and an hour later, he has a perfect
Speaker 2:perfect steak.
Speaker 1:Because they'll they'll just they're already wrapped up. You don't have to put them in the bag. You just drop it in there. Interesting. Kind of almost making me wanna eat steak.
Speaker 1:Just wanna try this.
Speaker 2:The more I talk about this. Ruin your what is it? How long have you been vegan?
Speaker 1:It's ten years now. I have ten years in February.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow. One day.
Speaker 1:Long I feel like it's paying off. It my I'm I just turned 37. Just had a birthday. I don't feel 37. I feel like I'm I'm not like Brian Johnson, like, reversing my aging.
Speaker 1:I'm not 18 again. But I do feel like eating the way I eat and some of the other things I'm doing, I do I feel like I'm staving off what would be a very painful 37 with all the jujitsu. I'm training so much, man. I'm I'm obsessed. I'm completely obsessed.
Speaker 1:Like, in a way that I haven't been obsessed with something in a while. It's bad.
Speaker 2:How many hours do you do a day?
Speaker 1:It's like two hours every morning.
Speaker 2:Like, on your on your highest days? Okay.
Speaker 1:Two hours. It's like two hours every morning, then Sunday, two hours in the afternoon of of just open mat, like, just rolling.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So
Speaker 1:I don't roll that much every day. Like, I'm only rolling, like, fifteen, thirty minutes at the end of class. But we go in early before class. I'm taking private lessons from this brown belt who is amazing. He's like a college wrestler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man. I'm obsessed. I'm competing next month. I'm doing my first tournament.
Speaker 2:Oh, nice. I'll be,
Speaker 1:like, two months into my journey, and I'm gonna just throw myself under the fire. It's like a Kansas City, IBJJF tournament.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're going to Kansas City. I'm going
Speaker 1:to Kansas City. To the big city. I'm gonna drive up from the Ozarks. White belt and toe.
Speaker 2:White belt. My friend who's ever into into jiu jitsu in New York told me to tell you to go. If you're ever in New York, you should go roll with him at his, at the gym he goes to because it's like
Speaker 1:That sounds awful.
Speaker 2:Why is that awful?
Speaker 1:How long has this person been into it? And they they roll in New York where there's actually good people.
Speaker 2:Well, so that I mean, that's why because he was like, so his gym has some, like, people that compete at, like, an international level Yeah. Like some of the coaches. I mean, would probably be fun for you just to like stop in there once.
Speaker 1:Oh, it'd be awesome to see like a a big gym where yeah. It's not Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not in
Speaker 1:Kansas anymore. Invite you if you ever Okay. Happen to be there.
Speaker 2:Don't know if you If I happen to be
Speaker 1:in New York and I happen to have my ghee, I will stop by.
Speaker 2:Well, bring your gi if you go to New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I thought about taking it when I went on that last trip. I I don't know. It just feels weird to to pack a gi. It just feels like I've gone full nerd.
Speaker 2:That's where you're gonna stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean, like, maybe the gym will have geese. I could just wear one of their geese but like to show up in a I don't know. It just feels weird visiting.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, going back to the thing you were saying, you you've it's good that you feel like you are cheating your age, which I think is the goal.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The fur I mean, the first few weeks, it was very I mean, like any new physical activity, very painful, very sore all the time. But now, I feel like and that thing you sent me, the knee thing
Speaker 2:Yeah. How
Speaker 1:about that? That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I wanna talk about that too.
Speaker 1:There's like all these experts that are like I've seen this guy on TikTok that Casey's shown me. He he's at the end of I don't remember his name. But at the end of everything, he's like all into flexibility and he does this crazy stuff, like the way he rolls around those ankles and stuff. But he always says stay flexy at the end. I feel like there's these crazy experts that are emerging with this new age of of media that just it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1:Like, you didn't have access to this kind of information twenty years ago. It's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was talking about about this with Liz and she was I think she was talking to a physical therapist or something. And, yeah, we're talking about how usually if you go to a doctor for some of these problems, so I used to have like bad shoulder issues and now I have this like new thing. You go to the doctor and they're always just like, oh, you have to like not use it. You have to Yeah.
Speaker 2:Lay off it or like you're kind of done using that thing.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:It's very common to hear that. But then like, you just it just gets weaker and deteriorates even more because you're not using Yep. And there's all these people that have a completely different take and I and I love this because, I 've mentioned this before, I've actually I had shoulder issues like two years, all kinds of doctors I went to, nobody could help me. And I found like that one one person that was just obsessed with the shoulder Yeah. Completely fixed my issues and I haven't had issues in like five or six years now.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, the guy the guy sent you for the for the knee thing and they just are like obsessed with this one thing and we'll figure out a way for you to train it and you can stay active for a very long time. The guy I follow for most of my diet and my workout stuff, he just turned 70. He actually lives here in Miami and he's been active like forever just doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1:Is that the slow rep guy?
Speaker 2:No, no, that guy I don't know where that guy I think that lives in Texas. Oh, okay. That's McGuff. This is Mark Sisson.
Speaker 1:Mark Sisson.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm sure you might have even come across this stuff like, do you know Primal Kitchen? Like the
Speaker 1:Oh, I've seen that.
Speaker 2:Brand? Yeah. Yeah. He that company and he sold it a couple years ago. But he used to be an ultra marathoner and his whole He has a very interesting journey where he would do those like crazy, crazy long distance runs like like the inhumane Like 100 miles?
Speaker 1:I've heard that's a thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And he talks about how, when he was doing that, he was doing all kinds of stuff that let him achieve those things, right? Like beating a shit ton of glucose, like drinking, like inhaling those pack those like crazy glucose packets while on runs, wearing certain shoes that let him run super long and he talks about how all these things like nearly killed him because like he was doing these things that were your body your body can technically do if you push it with all this technology that we have but it really shouldn't. So even though he was achieving these superhuman feats, he was never like in worse health and he he like learned to retire from that and now he's found like all this stuff that and his goal is always, he loves doing certain things, like he loves playing ultimate, he loves like biking, he loves doing all these things and he works out so that he can do those things not Yeah. Just to like do the workout.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I really like
Speaker 2:his perspective and he's like been able to be very very active to a very very late age.
Speaker 1:So so running not the best is what you're saying? Like pushing yourself with long distance?
Speaker 2:Running is fine. It's just like the level that he was doing it at, the ultra marathon, you just forget that we have so much technology assisting us now that we're capable of doing things, not we as in the general population, like the people at the high end of the spectrum. Yeah. They're doing things that technically are bad for them even though it's like in the category of exercise.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So jujitsu, I don't feel like it's the best long term activity. Like, do feel like
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like a serious injury is inevitable and then and then what? And then do you recover to get back into it to just like, I'm not gonna be able to do this when I'm 65. Like, I just don't think Right. It's the thing that and that sucks. But at least for now, I'm trying to regain my prime and feel like I've still got some youth left in me and enjoy it while I can, I guess?
Speaker 1:It does totally change. Like, having a a purpose, like a sport changes everything about my nutrition, my fitness. Like, I'm I'm focused on when I strength train now, it's like I'm specifically doing stuff that's good for jiu jitsu because I wanna be stronger getting out of guard or whatever. Like, I'm doing Turkish get ups and all this stupid stuff that I never would have done. I'm pushing myself harder just to get better at this sport.
Speaker 1:It I love having something like that, like a focused I just when I go into the gym with no aim, like, before I discover jujitsu, it's just like I'm not gonna push myself that hard. I'm not gonna do stuff I don't wanna do. I'm just gonna kinda do the normal bench and squat and deadlift. Call it a day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's a it just fixes all sorts of things in your life too. Like, I I I'm having the same experience. I'm like, wanna be in better shape as I start to kite surf because I don't wanna drown, which is a pretty good motivator.
Speaker 1:That's a good motivator. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it it also makes it so, like, I sleep on time because I wanna make sure I wake up on time
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I can work out
Speaker 2:in the morning. So it just kind of clicks everything in life into place.
Speaker 1:It does. It it just puts a lot of good habits. Yeah. Yeah. Enforces a lot of that.
Speaker 1:Love it. Yeah. Did you want did you did you wanna talk specifically about this knee thing? Did you wanna go into that guy? Or what were you gonna say about the knee thing?
Speaker 1:You just sent me the link. You didn't say anything. You just
Speaker 2:I was like, what should I say? I was like, whatever. Adam will figure it out.
Speaker 1:I watched the video. Mean, I watched the whole thing. The end got a little like emotional. I don't know. He was I know.
Speaker 2:It was weird, right?
Speaker 1:It's Thanksgiving and
Speaker 2:Basically, there's this, person on Twitter, his YouTube is, knees over toes guy. He can dump his
Speaker 1:Like something serious.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Just saying. And his whole thing is just a lot of people have knee problems and I stopped being active because of that and he just has a few basic things you do every day or whenever, that can kind of extend extend that. So if you're someone with that issue, go go check that out. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just started doing it the last two days. I I don't think I'm someone with knee problems. I think that one thing was just a freak thing but this is always gonna give me the confidence to to not worry about it. I had heard the
Speaker 1:walking backward thing. Casey had always
Speaker 2:told me
Speaker 1:like it's good for for a lot of joints.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna be walking around my neighborhood now with my ruck on backward. I wasn't weird enough looking with my backpack. I'm gonna be backward all the way up the hill, everything. I bet it'd be really good for you, actually.
Speaker 2:Let me explain to you how I'm doing it, which is hopefully I make you laugh.
Speaker 1:Do you put pants on first
Speaker 2:or are you outside your boxers? It depends. Just depends. Before looking at this backwards walking, so basically you you know, ten minutes of backwards walking every day, like helps reorient some of the stuff in your knees and your legs. Every morning for the past month, I've been doing this forever, you know, I play with Zuko in the morning to get his energy out.
Speaker 2:He's very excited in the morning. And I found something new that is very very very very good at getting his energy out and it's blowing bubbles. So every morning, I sit in my yard blowing bubbles and my neighbors walk by and see me and there is no way to make this look cool. I'm
Speaker 1:literally a grown adult blowing Yeah. Bubbles every single
Speaker 2:And I walk around while doing it so that he can, like, chase them so that it kinda puts some distance between you.
Speaker 1:So you walk around backward for ten minutes blowing bubbles?
Speaker 2:So now, yeah, this morning, I instead of walking forward, I walk backwards for ten minutes. It's perfect. He gets his exercise, I get my exercise. Beautiful.
Speaker 1:Are you do you ever feel like shame in public? Like, do you ever feel like I'm embarrassed by strangers seeing what I'm doing?
Speaker 2:Yes, I do. It's definitely diminished as I get older and will only continue to diminish. And now I see why I get why there's old people, like, completely naked in locker rooms all
Speaker 1:the time
Speaker 2:and stuff. Like, see that no longer care. Yeah. The added layer is something about being in my own property. I just, like, cannot care.
Speaker 1:I just cannot give a shit
Speaker 2:if it's my own property. Like, I get doing weird things in public places. Like, I'm embarrassed to do that, but I just don't feel it in my in my it's arbitrary, but I just don't feel it.
Speaker 1:No. I I really I have no cares about, like, public. And Casey Casey notices this and points it out that she gets embarrassed that I'm doing something. I just don't think about it. And not just on my own property.
Speaker 1:Like, I don't know. I don't like
Speaker 2:What kind of stuff are you doing that's embarrassing her?
Speaker 1:Okay. So the last thing that I was doing, there's this on the topic of, like, weird body fixes, so the knee guy, there's this thing if you get tennis elbow. So jujitsu, you get tennis elbow pretty commonly. I have them both elbows. And there's this, like, rubber this is like a stick.
Speaker 1:It's like a rubber stick about yay long. Where's the camera?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's like, I don't know, almost a foot, maybe 10 inches. And you you hold it like so and you twist it, and then you you kinda, like, torque that arm. I don't know. You you just, like it's this goofy looking Yeah. I mean, it looks like something, but I'm not gonna say what it looks like.
Speaker 1:It's just you just Hopefully not that aggressive. Yeah. You just you just sit there and do that. And I was just doing it in the car and people are driving by and it's kind of, like very clear. It's this weird motion I'm doing with this weird object.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That was the last thing where it's like I have the
Speaker 2:your car
Speaker 1:yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Was just In my car. That's my property,
Speaker 1:I guess. If I were walking around like the mall doing that, I don't know. That'd be a little weird.
Speaker 2:Man, but people there's just different degrees to this. Like I see people doing all kinds of weird stuff. I mean, when you live in a city, it's just you start to see, I mean, New York is like the epitome of this. You just get so used to people doing the weirdest stuff all around you that you just don't even it doesn't even register for you at all anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like clipping your toenails in the subway, like, just stuff like that. It's just Even I'm grossed
Speaker 1:out by that.
Speaker 2:But you just it you get to a point where you're just seeing weird stuff every single day and you kinda get it too. Like, it's a hard way to live and sometimes you end up in a situation where you mistime something and you gotta be doing something weird in public on your way to the next thing. No. It makes
Speaker 1:sense. I mean, we get that in The Ozarks too, but it's not because there's so many people. It's just because people are weird. I don't know. If you go to Walmart in The Ozarks, that's that's hell on earth.
Speaker 1:It's like the worst place in the world to go is Walmart. We're Casey and I were just talking about this the other day. We had to go to Walmart to get something. And we generally don't go places. We mostly Instacart our groceries, and we go to Mama Jeans.
Speaker 1:I talked about that. But we went to Walmart, and it's like it's where you rub shoulders with all the kind of people in the Ozarks. We don't really get a lot of exposure to it. It feels like we've got a nice little bubble. Our neighborhood's really nice, and Mama Jeans is pretty nice.
Speaker 1:Like, people who go there, it's like a little more health conscious. It's not just common folk. This is very class ist, didn't I? I'm being very
Speaker 2:I'm just letting you go.
Speaker 1:I'm letting you go. I'm sorry. I cancel me, please, before I go any further. It's just scary. I just like, honestly, it feels like this is where people get shot.
Speaker 1:This is where the mass shootings People
Speaker 2:get shot in Walmart all the time. Not mass shootings, more like just weird weird personal situations. But, yeah, it's a I mean, the way I've always thought about New
Speaker 1:York
Speaker 2:is, let's say one in a 100 people are like truly weird. You're passing a 100 people like every ten minutes in New York. Yeah. So you're just constantly seeing the weirdest people in the world all the time. And it's it's actually kind of fun.
Speaker 2:I don't know. You get you get used to
Speaker 1:it. But Miami's not that way, I guess.
Speaker 2:Well, there's definitely a lot of it's it's still that. Like, you still definitely get that. It's just not as dense as on as as many people.
Speaker 1:So That makes sense.
Speaker 2:It's different when you're in a subway crammed with, like, 50 other people in a car and, like, one of the 50 people is super weird and they're, like, three inches away from you.
Speaker 1:I just cannot imagine choosing to live in New York City. Like, choosing to ride the subway every day as part of my life. I just I don't understand it, Dax. Could you help me understand it? Like, you it was worth it to you?
Speaker 1:Something about New York was worth it?
Speaker 2:Here's the thing, you can probably relate to this. Any situation just starts to feel normal after you're in it enough, and you just tend to focus on the positives and kind of forget about the negatives. And realistically, like, I'm there's different experiences of this. I mostly work from home so I wasn't taking the subway on a daily commute. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That sucked. Even when I did go into the office, I rode my longboard and found other ways around. Like Liz biked a lot. The subway is also very radically changed. It's kind of the inverse of what you'd expect.
Speaker 2:Pre COVID, they were like generally packed and they were all just like this, like routine, like it was really packed in the morning and then it kind of like when work let out. And like but like, you know, still pretty busy throughout the rest of the day. And you would think that's worse than post COVID where subway ridership, like, went down a lot. Yeah. But it was it actually made the subways really scary because before, like I said, you'd packed in the car with 50 people, one person's weird.
Speaker 2:That's okay because there's 49 other people around you that aren't weird. Now, you're in a car with two people and the other person's weird and it's just
Speaker 1:you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So Subway started to feel a little bit weird after COVID. But in general, it's just like not a big deal. I don't know. Just it was never really something that that I noticed or like even thought about that much. True.
Speaker 2:Because you just focus on all those other stuff that, you know, is is is pretty great about being there. You're just immediate walking access to like the best stuff in every category without even thinking about it.
Speaker 1:So Yeah. I guess I don't I don't know what that stuff is or if I care. Like Broadway shows or like No. No. It's just the stuff.
Speaker 2:From like I mean, my current neighborhood is like this too. Like, I'm walking distance from like some of the best restaurants I've ever been to in my whole life. We can just decide any evening just to walk ten minutes and go have like, there's this new, Amakase sushi place that opened up, which is amazing. Just go walk there, do that. Across the street, another like incredible restaurant as well.
Speaker 2:Places to hang out, kind of things to do, just
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. I guess we don't have that here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. You just get used to it. Like, just get used to being able to decide to do anything and just extremely low friction to go do that.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Yeah. We mostly don't do things. Maybe that's why I haven't noticed this. Maybe we don't do things, nothing to do.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. So you just kind of adapt to whatever the lifestyle is. Interesting. But yeah, I mean, love my time there and I still think it's the best city I've ever been to.
Speaker 1:What really gets me is when I see like people with strollers, like imagining like raising a family in the That would be so hard. Yeah. That sounds so hard.
Speaker 2:But people do it. Yeah. Even people that aren't super rich.
Speaker 1:They probably think the same about the Ozarks. Like, how could you raise your kids in a place like that?
Speaker 2:There's just certain things they have to think about that you don't and things that they don't have to think about that Yeah. That you do.
Speaker 1:Well, we we tried the Twitter thing. We tried to stream on X live mostly successfully. I mean, if you count I mean, your audio was there the whole time. Mine was there part of the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm looking at it. It's there now. It's working.
Speaker 1:Are these recorded on Twitter?
Speaker 2:I think so. I think So, like,
Speaker 1:we can come watch this after on your your profile.
Speaker 2:You be there. You be mute.
Speaker 1:I mean, we're not gonna
Speaker 2:Trash says, Adam is still alive.
Speaker 1:Am still alive. Did trash not know is still alive? I'm getting ready to see trash
Speaker 2:In Vegas.
Speaker 1:And a lot of people. Man, you would not believe this DM group has grown. I can't believe everybody's going Dex. I'm not just trying to foam
Speaker 2:on you. How big is it?
Speaker 1:It's crazy. It's like 15 people now. Let me just check.
Speaker 2:That's too many people. A
Speaker 1:lot of yeah. 16 people. It's people I didn't know were going. A lot of people. I don't want us to name names because I don't forget some people, but like everybody I know from dev streaming sans you.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it's like everybody. Okay. Teej isn't going. It's like you and Teej. That's it.
Speaker 2:Me and Teej are having their own conference.
Speaker 1:Oh, are you?
Speaker 2:We're gonna do a conference call.
Speaker 1:Are you gonna go up in Michigan? Oh, you're gonna do a remote con a virtual conference? I'm not jealous. I'm literally not jealous.
Speaker 2:Just just don't don't make me paint that picture of you sitting at the corner of a of a table for dinner at dinner again.
Speaker 1:I'll stop. I mean, that will be the case, but we won't be at dinner the whole time. Of Some the times we'll be standing awkwardly in rooms, probably.
Speaker 2:And and gambling. Gambling all your money away.
Speaker 1:I've never gambled in my life. Should I gamble? Because I've been to Nevada a few times now. Should I be gambling in the airport?
Speaker 2:You should definitely just put, yes, you should Not at the airport, but you should definitely like allocate some amount of money and and just why not? It's fun.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Do you tell me, is it like a thrill? It just feels good?
Speaker 2:Well, so when we were in Vegas during Reinvent, me and Liz took out a $100 and we went to the table, lost it instantly, like instantly vanished.
Speaker 1:Just a 100 on red. Is that how that went? Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Liz was like, that wasn't fun. And I was like, I don't think we did it right. Then we took out another $100. Okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is the problem.
Speaker 2:Where
Speaker 1:does I this put it in a slot machine
Speaker 2:and I and this time, I pulled a lever and we won like 200 something dollars.
Speaker 1:So it's Liz. She's the problem.
Speaker 2:She didn't have a lucky hand at roulette table, gotta be honest. But we won all our all our money back plus like $40, I think, something
Speaker 1:like And then you just stopped? That was enough? You were satiated? Okay. Because I'm very obsessive and my concern is I will never be satiated.
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:And I will just get addicted. And then I will be living on the streets come December.
Speaker 2:I think the things that are addicting are the things that have a slow burn, like playing blackjack with like small amounts. So you're there for like thirty minutes to an hour, like slowly losing your money. Okay. Alan did that and he made money. And then at like 2AM he like left the room and then just went to go play in the middle of the night by himself.
Speaker 2:And I was like, okay, I think I think the
Speaker 1:buddy eviction has said
Speaker 2:it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you can do it all night. You can even play blackjack all night. It's like they've dealers there. I guess, of course, they do. I hate Vegas so much.
Speaker 1:Man, I hate it.
Speaker 2:Crazy optimized. Everything you're smelling is engineered to make you wanna stay. Everything you're hearing is make like, all the music is like explicitly curated. Like every every little step of it, like, the distances things are from each other, like, everything is micro optimized because every 1% improvement they have is is significant at their scale.
Speaker 1:Wow. It is. It is crazy. That sucks. Is it did I I wonder if TwitchCon was in Vegas before Amazon bought Twitch.
Speaker 1:Wait. Was there TwitchCon before Amazon bought Twitch? Is it is it just an Amazon fixation with Las Vegas? Could we convince someone at Amazon to please pick another city? One that doesn't, I don't know, smell like my grandma's house.
Speaker 2:My biggest suspect. A smoker?
Speaker 1:Yeah. No kidding. It's it's smoke and she wasn't, but that's it's like a a grandma smoker.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's bad. I hate that place.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I think it's just a certain generation. I'm assuming like all the the generation of people that are like execs at Amazon.
Speaker 1:They're into it.
Speaker 2:The Vegas conference thing was just
Speaker 1:That was a thing they grew up with. Yeah. The buffets, the gambling. Alright. Let's get off here.
Speaker 1:It's been it's been long enough to be on Twitter talking to Twitter people. I don't know. This is a different feel. The Twitch thing, I'm used to now. I'm used to talking to people on Twitch.
Speaker 1:I'm not used to these 16 people that are watching us on Twitter. It just feels weird. There's no dialogue, I mean, except for when Bertrand called me and sent me a bunch of messages. But other than that, I don't really I don't have any feedback. Just feels like we're talking to air.
Speaker 1:I guess this is what we do when we record a podcast. We don't actually have to stream it to somebody. Could just record the podcast.
Speaker 2:And I think I I wanna give this a try a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Oh, no. For sure. Yeah. It's it's nice. Mean, we're on Twitter so much, we might as well stream to it.
Speaker 1:51. Can you believe we've done this 51 times? You'd think we'd be getting better at it, but I don't know that we
Speaker 2:are. I think it just depends on where our focus is. I think both of us have been focused on.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. We're both busy right now. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:I have been, this past week, I have been finally diving deeper into all the LLM stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Just kinda getting more into the technicals. Yeah. And it's been
Speaker 1:I'm still I'm just now setting up my first smart contract, so I'm way behind you.
Speaker 2:Smart contract. What? Like I'm just
Speaker 1:kidding. Like a big like a big trend. Yeah. What are you doing with LLMs? You're just gonna be like, are you is this boomy?
Speaker 1:Are you gonna incorporate?
Speaker 2:I'm trying to under yes. Yes. But I'm also generally trying to understand it better because AWS Bedrock is coming out and we wanna figure out Oh. If ST needs to do anything around it, like what's I mean, generally, I think it's wanna understand the space and have Yeah. Just it's a great tool.
Speaker 1:I think I
Speaker 2:found in the last week, I've actually hit on something that I think is pretty interesting, at least for myself. Because most of where we have seen these LMs is generative text. So like you prompted something and it generates some an answer and people have scoped it to different things like, if they're better than their products but but effectively it's that's the UX we've seen. Yeah. But there's this whole other way of using them that I think is actually where a crazy amount of value is because I can think of like a million tasks.
Speaker 2:Well, summarizing is also generative text but Oh. There's other way of using them where it's about like extracting information from unstructured text. So if I'm going from unstructured to structured.
Speaker 1:Yeah. OCR. I think it's gonna change like use cases with OCR drastically because it's so hard to take a big blob of text from OCR and do anything with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. But then the question is like, you want it to come back in a schema that you can digest, right? So you wanna be able to define something like a JSON schema and constrict the LLM to only output stuff that's valid for that, which is not an automatically solved thing yet. People have found some pretty good approaches to doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. My friend actually ran like, I I was kind of looking through all this and he randomly released something yesterday. It's an API. There's two there's two things that API does. One is it's like a singular API that you can switch between OpenAI and like all these other different models.
Speaker 2:So you can play with them without changing your application code too much. Yep. But it also had it also implements some of these new, constriction methods. So you can specify a regex pattern and say that the response needs to correspond to his regex pattern. And he and he has some funny examples where he'll like he has a regex pattern where it's like, the first word has to be a number, second word has to be of or has to be calories of, then the third word has to can be whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah. He'll ask it for like, what's something I can eat blah blah blah and it'll say like 500 calories of this thing. Nice. So you So that's like it's like a low level tool of being able to constrain the output but I can imagine how people are gonna get really creative with this type of thing and and Yeah. Do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:Conforming to a JSON schema is also really cool. Someone wrote out a schema for what, like, ingredients look like, a recipe I've looks literally
Speaker 1:done this, Dax. I was about to tell you that I've actually played with this because we wanted to just OCR. My wife has all these cookbooks, and we like, like, five recipes from each one. And she I just wanted to be able to take photos of all of them, take the OCR from Textract, like, takes the text data, and then run it through OpenAI. It works great.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm probably doing it the dumb way. I'm just literally using OpenAI. But Yeah. You just pass it a schema and you pass it the raw data and it send hands right back to you.
Speaker 2:The issue with so OpenAI has like, if you just really talk to the prompt, you can probably get it to respond roughly correctly, like, some amount of time. You can make this even more correct by using their their, like, functions thing where you, like, give it a function and you say that the arguments that function is this JSON schema.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:That's still probabilistic though. There's still a chance that it's not gonna
Speaker 1:conform It's not gonna conform. To
Speaker 2:Yeah. But then this this new approach, basically, the approach is like, when it whenever the LM is generating a new token, you bias tokens up that are valid based off of how much what is generated so far. So you like, you negatively score tokens that don't conform to your schema. Yeah. And if you do it that way, the element is restricted to only outputting stuff that conform conforms to it.
Speaker 1:How do you do that? Like when you say bias the tokens, it's like at the training level or what what is this?
Speaker 2:OpenAI actually has a way to pass in biases for tokens.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:It's not an amazing API and they need to just integrate this at a lower level, but it technically allows you to do this. It's just like, let's just say 10 x more expensive if you need to like rerun stuff a bunch of times, like a few optimization things you
Speaker 1:need to do.
Speaker 2:But the takeaway is you can say every single time this output something, it's definitely gonna be this keyword.
Speaker 1:It's gonna
Speaker 2:be interesting. Yeah. From that place forward.
Speaker 1:Man, I've had the exact same thought that that like, the other thing I thought is summarization. I just feel like nobody's there's not a lot of, like, people using the summarization capabilities of this stuff to, like, take a lot of information and dents it down. Maybe there are people and I just haven't seen it. But the the schema thing or just like the unstructured data to structured, very much on my mind. I feel like there's tons of ways this this solves problems that are just really hard to solve
Speaker 2:without something There's like so many business processes that I've like just worked on in the past that have been like, categorize these PDFs or like, you know, pull out this stuff from it's just it's just such a common thing. So, yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity there. The recipe example I was talking about though is, so so they've they define a JSON schema of like, ingredients look like this description and like a quantity and a unit and then Yeah. Steps look like this and they have these different things and they reference these ingredients. And it basically can convert a recipe into that exact structure so then you can just render it in a
Speaker 1:But what is Is this a repo? Can you send this to me? Because it's probably better than what I've done.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'll send you some stuff. There's basically I think the there's so many approaches to this. I think I found this repo called Clownfish, I think it's called. And it Okay.
Speaker 2:It has a above all, it has like a really great read me explaining the exact approach. Yeah. And then my friend's thing is is kind of similar. And then I'll show you the open a OpenAI like JSON.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Know, that all are
Speaker 2:but it's still pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You have you looked at like the open source models at all, Llama two or any of that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm still trying to at the phase where I'm trying to understand, like, I don't even know what it means to be an open source model. Like, what exactly does that mean? Like, why is everyone hosting it? Like, what I I I don't know if an article that works together.
Speaker 1:So there's an AWS here that works at Hugging Face. And I'm I'm blanking on his name, but he writes about two articles per day on LinkedIn. It's insane. I don't know how he has time to write all this stuff.
Speaker 2:He writes OLMs.
Speaker 1:Maybe. So he's got an article on training, doing like a custom Llama two in SageMaker. So you've got a serverless inference endpoint that's all just SageMaker and you can use Llama two. I've wanted to play with that like as an alternative to OpenAI just to have a cheap a cheap way to kind of use these LLMs. And I think this they're one it's like the highest it's like 70,000,000,000 parameters or something.
Speaker 1:It's a pretty big model, Yeah. Isn't it?
Speaker 2:And then there's, all the fine tuning stuff, which is interesting too. OpenAI OpenAI has an yeah, embeddings I'm a little bit familiar with because we had to like understand what that was to add some of the AI stuff to our docs
Speaker 1:Oh, right.
Speaker 2:For SST.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Everybody did that like overnight. So cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. That but that's kind of what I feel like. I feel like the focus the stuff that has made it to me as an end user has been like kind of narrow. And now I'm seeing like, oh, I think there's all these more hidden approaches that are more hit like, just never see like, it's probably someone automating some really obscure business process that like saves them like a million dollars, like multiple million dollars a year. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And there's just so many of these that that probably exist. And I think that's that might be where a lot of the AI companies that have been founded but aren't necessarily making products for the average person. That might be what they're focused on, things That like
Speaker 1:makes sense. Love how we were done, like, because we've just been talking about stupid stuff and then we actually talked about interesting stuff. I'm glad we didn't just end it. This podcast will actually have something technical in it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Gonna mix it in. This
Speaker 2:is still a tech podcast.
Speaker 1:Is it? Is it though? The last
Speaker 2:episodes have been been like my body hurts podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think we're getting
Speaker 2:exiting that. Feel like I
Speaker 1:feel like we've You just did an interview with AJ? I mean, that's Yes. That's gonna be very technical, I would assume. A bass jumping.
Speaker 2:Actually, it was yeah. It was like, I I found it interesting because I'm like, oh, now I get to just talk about talk to people that know about something really random and learn about it. Like you talk about bass jumping stuff and aviation stuff for like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh, is he
Speaker 2:in a That was cool.
Speaker 1:Aviation? I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Well, he was saying he grew up in a place that, I forgot where he was but he grew up in a place where aviation's big and a lot of people had, like, built their own planes, like, that was a very normal thing.
Speaker 1:Built their own planes? Talks about it in this funny way where he's like, oh yeah, my friend built this thing and we were, like, 90 feet up in
Speaker 2:the air and we, like, couldn't we're,
Speaker 1:like, struggling to get out too. And I was like, I should have packed the other chute.
Speaker 2:And I'm like Oh my word. How is the
Speaker 1:normal part of your life? I've never heard of someone building their own plane. I mean, aside from the Wright Brothers, that was that was the only plane ever.
Speaker 2:The first time anyone has
Speaker 1:ever done that. Exactly. I'll stick to not base jumping and not flying in homemade planes.
Speaker 2:Well, thinks that because you are doing jiu jitsu and he was doing jiu jitsu for a while, he thinks that you might end
Speaker 1:I up might following also be into base jumping. Yeah. I didn't know he was really into jiu jitsu. It's amazing how many people are into jiu jitsu. Once you get into it, you discover it's a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Think we're gonna roll in Vegas, me and Malki at least. Maybe I'll get trashed to
Speaker 2:roll too. It's funny because when I hear roll, I immediately think doing molly because that's what people that do molly, like,
Speaker 1:Oh, do really? I don't know what
Speaker 2:molly is. When I when I heard you say we're gonna roll in Vegas, I was like, oh, wait.
Speaker 1:Wait, molly, is that a drug?
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's ecstasy.
Speaker 1:Oh, they call it rolling? Like, let's roll some ecstasy. Would you like to roll some ecstasy with me? Did
Speaker 2:I do it right? Actually, yes. Go to Vegas and say that to someone.
Speaker 1:Would you
Speaker 2:like to roll some ecstasy with Would
Speaker 1:you like to roll some ecstasy with me? Can I call
Speaker 2:it x?
Speaker 1:Would you like to roll some This
Speaker 2:makes me wanna go to Vegas and say Oh, that to
Speaker 1:I found a thread. I just gotta pull on that thread. I really wanna get you to come. There's no chance you and Liz would just fly out for it's just like two days. It's like totally different than a week at re:Invent.
Speaker 1:No chance.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Not happening.
Speaker 2:I know. But no, I need to stick to it.
Speaker 1:Okay. Fine. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright.
Speaker 1:Alright. Let's go. I gotta pee anyway.
Speaker 2:I know. I can tell you, like, shit. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Busy day.
Speaker 2:I feel like I can, like I've picked up on your
Speaker 1:The queues.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The queues. Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, man. Alright. Why do I have to pee so much? I have to pee I have to pee today two hours at jujitsu.
Speaker 1:I had pee twice.
Speaker 2:Wait. Is something wrong with you?
Speaker 1:I think Was something something wrong I might actually have a prostate problem.
Speaker 2:Twice in two hours.
Speaker 1:Twice in two hours and I have to pee again. And I've peed since I got No matter how
Speaker 2:much water you're drinking, that
Speaker 1:seems seems like a lot. No. I it's like every hour. I think I should probably get a look at it. I'll I'll a look at it.
Speaker 2:Might just do I
Speaker 1:don't know. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Okay.
Speaker 1:Speaking of, we'll see you. See you.
