The Dream Is Over, Jujitsu & Skimboard Injuries, and NYC vs Ozarks vs Miami
Like, find me on x.com. That just sounds dirty too.
Speaker 2:Throw you the yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 3:You can find my profile on x.com.
Speaker 1:What's fun is when the predominant thing, the thing that's taking all of your emotional and physical energy in your life, when you can't talk about it, that's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:That's tons of fun.
Speaker 1:I love getting on a podcast and talking about other things that I haven't been thinking about. That's fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You just gotta pretend. You're gonna act like a fake person. And you imagine there's people that do this professionally, right? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Who does this professionally? Like podcast professionals? Not just that. Just people that are like entertainers on TV. Like, late night talk show hosts, like, that are just on every single
Speaker 1:They go through stuff. Occasionally, they're going through a difficult situation and then they just they have to act like everything's fine. Everything's I guess the cat's out of the
Speaker 2:bag now.
Speaker 1:Oh, man.
Speaker 2:This is a you're just teasing everyone. Everyone loves to hear juicy stuff,
Speaker 1:so Sorry. No. I'll just go ahead and divert away because I really can't talk about it and that's the thing that sucks. But I do wanna say, I just saw on Twitter, I mean, x, that l k 99, the dream is dead. And that's some bad news.
Speaker 2:I saw that post this morning too. I was actually just going through the comments right before this. I don't know. I don't know what to like I said in the last podcast, I don't know what to make of any of it. So I'm like, is it dead?
Speaker 2:Is this person trustworthy? Like, does what they're saying make sense? Yeah. They made it sound
Speaker 1:so official. They said, this is as as official as it'll get, they said. I don't know what Who's that
Speaker 2:they though?
Speaker 1:Whoever that person was that tweeted it. I
Speaker 2:tweet anything on it, I'm just gonna add on there. This is official it's gonna get.
Speaker 1:Yeah. This is official as it's gonna get. SST is the best.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There you go. See how that works. Yeah. That's, I mean, we'll yeah, I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2:I mean, I did see that prediction markets are still at 25%. So, it's gonna
Speaker 1:take Oh, really? So the markets weren't swayed by that one post on xit.
Speaker 2:Takes time to build up. Like, you know, you hear news, you're kinda in denial, then you think about it, then you're like, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think the claim in the tweet was that it is levitate it does have a levitating effect, but it's not superconductive It's the climate.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I guess it's just from normal die magnet or whatever.
Speaker 1:There's fun stuff we can do with levitation. Right? I mean I mean, it's
Speaker 2:just a magnet at the end of the day. It's not superconductive. Bummer.
Speaker 1:It's really hard to make magnet.
Speaker 2:It might be a yeah. Really hard to make a I mean, might be other special properties of it because it's not a typical magnet. So I don't know.
Speaker 1:I the the silver lining to me is that it does seem like the whole world was woke up to the fact that, like, we still don't know anything. There's still so many combinations of materials and things that people could like, there's a lot of progress to be made even if this wasn't it. I feel like you just don't even think about, like, a new material could surface that changes the world. Not an area I was thinking about. It's like I think about the Internet.
Speaker 1:I think about what else do I think about? I don't know. Physics discoveries? I don't know. But I don't think about material science, and now I do.
Speaker 1:Now I'm thinking about those people in the lab meshing different things together and figuring stuff out. I don't know. It's interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think, it's funny because I read two comments this morning that were polar opposites. One was just some salty cynical person being like, this is why the media shouldn't hype up this stuff. Now public trust in science has been eroded. And I was like, what the hell is this guy talking about?
Speaker 2:I think I had the opposite reaction. Then I saw another comment that wasn't replying to this person, was coming as a completely separate comment that was like, oh, well, know, even if it doesn't work out, this is awesome because like the whole world got to like get into this and it's it was inspiring to see and I think it was like very positive even even
Speaker 1:if it Yeah.
Speaker 2:Doesn't end up being a thing like, I can't see as anything besides inspiring that, like, there's moments like this Mhmm. Of of, like, something this impactful that can happen. So I saw it as entirely positive. But, yeah Same. People, I think, will just see it through whatever lens they wanna see.
Speaker 1:I have an all new respect for, like, chemists and people who know this stuff. It's like I'm sure people feel this way when they hear people talk about technology, like Internet technology and web stuff. But it just kinda blows your mind to watch these people talk on Twitter. Like Mhmm. The things they understand that are so foreign and just seem like this whole other language.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I've been very impressed with that whole field and I didn't even know it existed, honestly. I I thought we invented all the materials a long time ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's funny because you imagine I guess for me, I imagine like, okay, production of materials, that's like some big industrial optimized process that happens in these like crazy factories. But of course, there's like a non scaled version of making anything. So So it was funny to see people make this stuff at home using just like their hands Yeah. And like some basic not literally at home, like in a lab obviously.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's just interesting for me to see that, yeah, no matter what the industrial process is for anything, there is like a more, like amateur version of it that they would have discovered first before scaling it up. So it was cool to that side of it where, yeah, you can literally make any material. Obviously, they're making like crazy small amounts. Yeah. It's actually funny how small the amount is given.
Speaker 1:Wonder what goes into Look this flake. It's
Speaker 2:moving. Exactly. But it is cool to see that technically you can build all that home. Like it would it would be like for us if someone and I've seen this people do this where people build a CPU at home.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Have you seen the thing with the toaster? No. There was this guy, I'll I'll look it up and I'll find it later. He his goal was to build a toaster with zero literally from scratch.
Speaker 2:That have means is he you seen this?
Speaker 1:I think you told me about it.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. He literally like mines the ore and like Like
Speaker 1:it doesn't turn out great he actually did it, like it worked?
Speaker 2:It looks like a piece of shit. It looks it looks so much worse than you could even imagine. But I think he did do it. It's it's incredible how hard it is. It really makes you appreciate the harmony that the world works
Speaker 1:The collective humanity efforts. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard that that's like what we're good at. That humans separated from other species by being good at working together.
Speaker 1:Is that am I summarizing that okay?
Speaker 2:Yeah, think so. I mean, talked about it before where our ancestors were individually smarter from what we can tell, like brain size and just more individually impressive people. But their capabilities are like like a fragment of what even the least capable person can do now.
Speaker 1:So Yeah. Yeah. That book I don't know. I feel like I've probably
Speaker 2:already said this on
Speaker 1:the podcast. I don't care. The Rational Optimist starts off and kind of talks about like he's sitting at his desk, like, all the things that were made from all the countries around the world. Like, I'm drinking coffee from Colombia, and I'm the coffee cup was whatever, you know, made in Taiwan.
Speaker 2:And Mhmm.
Speaker 1:The desk is you know, you got the silicon manufacturing and mining and all the millions of people involved in just this like simple setup at his desk where he's reading a book. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. My favorite part about this always makes fun of me for this because I bring it up way too much. My favorite part about that whole system is it just relied on people being selfish. It didn't rely on like people like loving each other and like being friends and working in harmony. Everyone just operated in their own self interest and somehow like it comes together in a overall positive way.
Speaker 1:Is that capitalism? Is that basically what capitalism is or am I missing?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Think I think it's a good system in that you can redirect people's natural incentives towards something that is so productive for everyone. Obviously, there's like holes and gaps in this but generally speaking, like that does happen and all. Like, I go to work and I help a bunch of people build stuff just because I'm selfish. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's not really it's nice for me to help other people but like, let's be honest with that I mean,
Speaker 1:that's not hard to believe though. Yeah. You're kind of a jerk. Like everyone just they understand that. But think of like really kind people.
Speaker 1:They do it for themselves too.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Am I a jerk? Am I as honest, Adam?
Speaker 1:You're not a jerk.
Speaker 2:You're just
Speaker 1:you're honest. You're so honest, and you're so it's actually real kindness is that you're honest with people. Like, that's the East Coast thing. Right?
Speaker 2:I like this. I like this.
Speaker 1:Seen you in forever. And we don't really talk now outside of the podcast. Like, we're we're not like DMing every day like we used to. Did we used to? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel
Speaker 1:like the podcast is like enough of a we stay in touch twice a week, you know?
Speaker 2:And it's like a it's like a big social part of my week where we do this twice a week. So it was kind of weird this last week.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So so we just we I I took like one day off or we took a day off. And I think I said on like the last podcast we recorded like, I guess someday we will take, like, a week off. And I don't know why I didn't realize I was gonna be gone the next week. For some reason, that didn't occur to me.
Speaker 1:We went to, like, Lake Tahoe last week for, like, a company off-site. Lake Tahoe is amazing. Have you ever been to Lake Tahoe?
Speaker 2:No. I haven't. But I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1:It's beautiful. It's like everywhere you are in Lake Tahoe is beautiful. It's like you hike up the mountain, views of the lake. You're on the lake, views of the mountains. It's just like mountains and lake everywhere.
Speaker 1:It's really nice. They have beaches. There's sand.
Speaker 2:Oh, really? Is it is it a huge lake where, like, it looks like an ocean?
Speaker 1:Yeah. But you can see all the way around it. Like, you can see the whole perimeter. It's not like a great lake where you don't there's like water to the horizon. The the the water there, I guess it's known for its clear water because it's all like snow melt from the mountains.
Speaker 1:In, like, the middle of it, we went out on a boat, and you can basically see the bottom anywhere in the lake. Like, it's that clear straight down. And, like, lakes in Missouri, not so much. It's you can't you can't see, like, a foot in front of you if you don't stick your arm down there because it's creepy. So it was great.
Speaker 1:A lot of swimming. A lot of we did some paddle boarding. Was it warm? Very active. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's, like, seventies.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:So down the mountain in, like, Reno, it's a 100 every day. But you go up a few thousand feet or whatever it is. And, yeah, it was beautiful. 70 degrees something. We were in the water or doing something moving.
Speaker 1:I one day, I got 24,000 steps, which is like an entire week for me. Like, I gotta get like 3,000 a day when I'm not trying.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, very active. I was beat every night. Slept really well.
Speaker 2:Well, speaking of being active, I gotta talk about what happened to me this weekend.
Speaker 1:Yes, I heard. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:As we I think I talked about on a previous episode, I'm getting into skimboarding and planning on getting into kiteboarding. I was at the I'm I was getting pretty good at it. I was finally like having fun skimboarding, I I got the hang of it. I was doing it and I went in to do another basically, you have to like run and then you drop the board and jump on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Two steps into a run, like halfway like, I was doing it for maybe like fifty minutes. I just felt like a pop in the back of my knee. And I kinda ignored it and just jumped on it anyway and then I just fell off right away and
Speaker 1:I was like Oh, That did
Speaker 2:not feel or sound good. And then I got up and I was like, damn, this hurts and then I like went over to Liz and she was recording me this whole time by the Oh,
Speaker 1:it's on video?
Speaker 2:The thing is, it doesn't look like anything because like, I didn't there's no I didn't like
Speaker 1:You're not like collapsing and screaming and grabbing your
Speaker 2:knee? No.
Speaker 1:Because that would be a hilarious video, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:And it's just like, it just popped on its own. It's not like I like fell or ran into just twist or it's just not a fun it's funny because she she actually had it on cinematic mode when I was walking up to her. So was just me, like, slowly walking up being, like, I hurt myself. I'll I'll see if I can post it later. It's So
Speaker 1:was this very epic moment of like triumph, you just did your skimboarding Yeah,
Speaker 2:I think me emerging from the ocean, holding my board looking really cool and
Speaker 1:being like, I popped my knee. It hurts.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then I got it and I was like I was like, it it didn't hurt but I walked we walked back and I came home. Then later that day like, it was messed up. Like my knee was swollen and I like could barely walk. The next day I could barely walk.
Speaker 2:And I was like, this sucks because these types of knee injuries are the type of thing that you do at once and then it just becomes a thing
Speaker 1:A recurring
Speaker 2:to be worried about. And I was like, I've I know so many people in that situation. I don't wanna be one of those people. So I was kinda bummed. Yesterday, I woke up and I went from like not being able to walk at all to like feeling almost a 100% fine.
Speaker 1:Are you serious? That's the end of the story?
Speaker 2:It's still no, it's still like off. There's something off about it. Like I'm so careful moving on it. I'm I think if I like try to move normally like, I might aggravate it again but Yeah. It definitely went from me feeling like I definitely need to go to the doctor and this might need something to now me being like, okay, maybe it was just a strain.
Speaker 2:I hope it's just like a minor tear or like just a strain, but we'll see.
Speaker 1:Does it feel like there's more slack or anything? Like, I tore my posterior cruciate playing basketball in high school. And I remember going to the bench, and it was the weirdest feeling in the world that, like it felt like my leg in my shoe was like, my foot was doing things in my shoe that I just didn't make sense. Yeah. Have you had any of that kind of sensation?
Speaker 2:Well, the the second day when it was really bad, I like I couldn't tell what was happening because I feel like they forget how to walk because, like, everything just feels like wobbly as hell. So that's what I thought it might be serious. But I think it was from the swelling. And the swelling like messed up the muscles because today now I feel pretty normal. And the thing is, there's so many little I keep trying to look up what could have like which thing I could have messed up.
Speaker 2:There's so many things in your knee. It's like the most complicated thing possible.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of stuff going on. It really is. Yeah. And I'm
Speaker 2:like, I know exactly what makes it hurt but can I like figure out what it is? But like even then, it's it's I I can feel exactly where it hurts. I know exactly the motion that makes it hurt. Yeah. But there's like a million things.
Speaker 2:Like is it the meniscus or the ACL? It's like one of the things that you meant. There's like all these weirdly
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Named things in there.
Speaker 1:It's a complicated joint. Like, the PCL goes through the bone. Like, it goes in through the middle of the joint and then around. It's it's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's but I'm one of those people that has, like, I will my knee will swell for the rest of my life. Like, unless I'm completely sedentary. If I just go for walks every day, like, I've got swelling. And I think it's to, like, stabilize it. It's because my I don't really have a a PCL on my left knee.
Speaker 1:So I think by swelling, it keeps it a little more stable because that that's mainly a stabilization ligament. Like, it's just keeping it stable. So I think it's for good reason that it gets swollen, but it hurts. I mean, the more swollen it gets, the more pressure and the more, like, bending it hurts.
Speaker 2:Did you did you hurt it? How old
Speaker 1:were you? I mean, it would have been like 16, 17. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I hate injuries like this because they're so, like, invisible. I am fine breaking a bone. I break a bone. They said it It heals. It heals.
Speaker 2:Okay. Like, there might be some issues but it's just very straightforward. But these like weird ligament tear things, it's just like Yeah. You never know what's actually going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And when it's a lower leg thing, you end up favoring a lot. Like, even after Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're biased.
Speaker 1:I mean, like, immediately after doing the physical therapy, I had surgery. Everything was better for a while, but then eventually, like, in older age and adulthood, I started playing basketball again. It's like, I'm favoring it so bad that then you get all out of Kelter and it just messes with everything. It sucks. Stupid knees.
Speaker 1:So we're just getting old.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And the dumb thing is I'm like, okay, I'm gonna pick water sports. They're not they're like low impact. But then I guess technically it's like running on the sand is actually one of the like, it's actually very hard on your body.
Speaker 1:Oh, Just because like
Speaker 2:you're you're like constantly hitting at the ground at different angles and your knee is like compensating for balance.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's not a not a nice level terrain there on the beach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. So I'm realizing, okay, that's it maybe isn't actually like a low injury risk.
Speaker 1:And then people forget to fill in their holes.
Speaker 2:Like, we dig a lot of holes on the beach.
Speaker 1:We fill them in. But like, don't I know, did we do a good job?
Speaker 2:I don't think I mean, I I'm not out there dodging holes for sure. Okay. I don't think that's It's not your issue. I'm hopeful that kiteboarding as even though it is like a more intense thing, that one I do think is like pretty low. Like you can like injure yourself if you get like like sucked over land and like you fall from the sky.
Speaker 2:But that's again a little bit more straightforward than like this invisible thing happening into you. And because that that you're just like on the water and you're being pulled along. It's not it's not like anything that crazy. Yeah. But, yeah, just injury sucks that they set you back.
Speaker 2:I think the other thing that might have caused this is the past month I've been going to the gym like really hard. Like I've been going and deadlifting a lot. Yeah. I'm wondering if I like kind of overdid it somehow. But this also sucks because now like I kind of lose that progress because I can't go back.
Speaker 1:That's that's the big dilemma. So I'm I've told you I'm into jiu jitsu. Yeah. I'm pretty into it. But I know that big injury is gonna come.
Speaker 1:And then, like, all the the, like, getting I'm so obsessed with it. Like, I wanna just pour myself into it every day. And you can't do that once you're hurt. Like, even now, I've got little stuff just like Sunday, I went for the first time to, like, an open mat Mhmm. Which they do every Sunday, and it's just like people from other gyms show up, and it's just rolling.
Speaker 1:There's no, like, holding back. You know? It's it's like a live roll.
Speaker 2:Street rolls.
Speaker 1:Like a street roll. Yeah. So I got arm barred. For anybody who listens to this and does jujitsu, I'm dumb, and I'm brand new. And I got, like, people mounted on me constantly.
Speaker 1:I was in everyone's guard constantly. And then a lot of the submissions were arm bars. I did get choked once, but my left elbow, I definitely hyperextended. Somebody went a little hard. They were going for the gold medal, I think.
Speaker 1:And it it still hurts. And now every time I've trained since, just the blood flow and, like, getting into it again, it's like afterward when the adrenaline comes off, it's just achy. Like, real achy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Everyone that does BJJ says, you will eventually get injured.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And it's rib stuff. It's knees. It's it's stuff that's gonna suck. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I can't I can't turn away. I'm too into it. Oh, my finger, it doesn't hurt to type, but, like, my pinky finger my left pinky finger is so fat.
Speaker 2:Did you jam it?
Speaker 1:I think I burst a blood I think I burst a blood vessel. I jammed my middle finger and it's swollen for that reason. But this one, I think, is a blood vessel and it's it's tight.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Those arm bars scare me. Whenever I see that, I'm just like, I can just see Yeah. It go wrong so easily.
Speaker 1:My fear is that, like, as a dumb white belt, I won't even know it's coming and, somebody will injure me before I even have a chance to react. Like, I'm too slow and I'll just be like, this is fine and then I'm I'm dead. Somebody passed out the other day. Like
Speaker 2:From a choke?
Speaker 1:Somebody got a choke on them and they passed out. They didn't tap and they passed out. So that's
Speaker 2:Wow. That was like my story when I didn't know how to tap out. I didn't know
Speaker 1:what to tap Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I never passed out though. I came close. I definitely saw like the edges of my vision starting to to black out.
Speaker 1:It's it is like a thing that I told myself, like, I don't know anything. So if I feel any pain, I'm just gonna tap. Yeah. But then once you get in the heat of the moment, you're like, I can get out of this. I got this.
Speaker 1:Like, somebody had me in a a choke with like, guillotine, I think they call it, and they, like, fall back. And and I resisted so hard that now I'm just like, all those muscles in my neck are sore. Oh, I never use them. Like, I'll just hold my head up. You know?
Speaker 1:So sleeping's hard. We're just getting old. It's okay. It's okay. It's fine.
Speaker 1:It's just everything hurts all the time.
Speaker 2:I had so much I wanted to do.
Speaker 1:In life? I turned 37 this month. Did you know this?
Speaker 2:You turned or you
Speaker 1:My birthday is I turn in like twelve days.
Speaker 2:When's your birthday?
Speaker 1:Should I tell
Speaker 2:you? Oh, I don't know. You can tell me in private if you can't say it in public.
Speaker 1:Well, I I used to have no. Okay. It's August 20. I don't care. I used to have it on my Twitter profile and I was told it's kind of a security thing that you don't put your birthday out there.
Speaker 1:Right? People can like steal your identity easier or something.
Speaker 2:At yeah. At this point, I feel like identity theft is so easy to pull off where if you're targeted, like there's no stopping it. Like it's just so easy to look up anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And this is what I hate about cause in America, when you need to prove your identity to someone, they ask you what's your social security number? Yeah. Then you give them your social security number which is both your username and your password. So when you give it to them, now you have to rely on them never ever losing it ever.
Speaker 1:And it's every person you've ever given it to. Yeah. You think of all the people along the chain that pass that information along. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Out there. It's just a dumb system and it's like literally what, like, the public private key pair concept was built. Like, you have something that is secret to you, you can sign something and give it to someone else, they can prove that it's you but they don't ever get your secret thing. Yeah. Like, we need to switch to that at some point because social security because it's just getting ridiculous because now now everyone knows that Social Security number on its own is not enough.
Speaker 2:So they ask for like three other things on top of it and then ask me four other things and five other things and just it just gets to a place where
Speaker 1:It's just an arms race.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's very annoying. I hate it.
Speaker 1:It is very annoying. I don't please don't steal my identity. Now I'm just fearful that one of our listeners is like, oh, it would be easy
Speaker 2:to steal Adam's identity. Please don't do that.
Speaker 1:That would be very mean.
Speaker 2:But then you'd have to be Adam. And do you really want that?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Do you really want my identity? Exactly. Come on down. Man, I really do we've said we've talked about this too much, but I really do wish I could be anonymous.
Speaker 1:Is it too late to go anonymous? You're literally recording a podcast.
Speaker 2:Can't be anonymous.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But like but our name doesn't have to be on it. I mean, our name is not tomorrow. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I feel like it's too late, but I
Speaker 1:don't know. It's too late.
Speaker 2:You should try I mean, you can start over. You can like be like, guys, I'm retiring and then you come back as someone else and nobody knows it's you. I've thought about
Speaker 1:I've basically already retired. I mean, I haven't streamed or done anything public aside from this in a while. I could just disappear. Yeah. But then people would know what I look like.
Speaker 1:Okay. I grow my hair out. I wear glasses all the time. I talk about totally different stuff, not tech. I'd have to come back in some other field.
Speaker 2:But you don't live in The Ozarks? Because the phrase that one here's the problem. The moment anyone from The Ozarks signs up and shows up on tech Twitter, it's you. Like Yeah. It's over.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Nobody else.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I just I gotta go into a new thing. I'll just be I'll get into cooking or something.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Are we still calling it Twitter? Are we calling it x? I haven't even thought about this.
Speaker 1:I was trying earlier to be all proper and be like x.com and posting and it's hard though. I'm gonna say Twitter forever.
Speaker 2:I can see myself switching to word posting. Something about saying a single letter
Speaker 1:feels weird. Like find me on x.com. That just sounds dirty too.
Speaker 2:Like throwing the yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 3:You can find my profile on x.com.
Speaker 1:Well, it's not even like it redirects to Twitter still. Right? Like it's not even the the one thing that's remained is URL is still twitter.com, I
Speaker 2:think. Yeah. I feel like they should've done what if they really wanted to do this, just do what Facebook does where they're like, Instagram, a Facebook company or WhatsApp, a Facebook company. Twitter, an x
Speaker 1:Like they could still have the x company as this umbrella for Twitter but still call the product Twitter. It is weird to me. It's weird to change the name from Twitter after sixteen, seventeen years, whatever it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like but I what do I know? You know? I I wanna challenge it but it's like, I don't know. I don't have billions of dollars. I'm not smart.
Speaker 2:There's a few examples of I can't remember any off the top of my head right now but I was looking into this. There's a few examples of some giant companies that have went through a name change and then reverted it back a few years later because it just caused like an irreparable
Speaker 1:Could that happen?
Speaker 2:I don't know if it'll happen. Literally, my lesson with Twitter is it is literally unkillable. Like, you can do whatever you want with it. Yeah. I I do wonder like what you would have to do to meaningfully drop usage because I feel like Yeah.
Speaker 2:Literally nothing. There's nothing you can do. Heard it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've not been using it as much, but that's not related to the the rebrand. Like, that's not slowed me down at all, I guess. Like, it's weird to see it on my home screen, the black and white and the the x. It's a little weird, but it's fine. I'm not gonna stop using it because of it.
Speaker 2:Did you see the payouts that people have been getting?
Speaker 1:Yeah. The company that I work for is a rather large Twitter account that gets a rather large number of impressions every month.
Speaker 2:Oh, you guys
Speaker 1:And is very interested. Yeah. So we'll see. And we get like a 150,000,000 a month.
Speaker 2:It's funny because I never thought about company accounts because obviously there's some giant company accounts that are like that is very interesting. Yeah. So people people have been posting how much they're making. It's obviously like really tiny numbers. Bigger than you expect for just posting on Twitter but
Speaker 1:They're bigger than you expect but aren't those aren't those payouts that I read they're from like February or something? It's like a back thing. It's not like per month. It's not
Speaker 2:gonna be like a monthly thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Because it wouldn't have made sense to me. Some of the numbers I saw, like, if people were getting paid that a month, there's no way Twitter's making enough to cover some of those things. So it makes sense if it was several months.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I tried to do some calculations. It seems like it's a 2¢ CPM.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's helpful. Wait. M stands for
Speaker 2:Million.
Speaker 1:Milli which thousand.
Speaker 2:1,000.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Which makes no sense to me. I guess I'm not into the metric thing. I wish I was.
Speaker 2:I was when I worked in AdTech, I always found it so confusing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So 2¢ every thousand impressions? Yeah. Because but the thing
Speaker 2:is it's not it's like so much of an estimate. I'm just like guessing based off of the things people posted plus it's not literal they're not literally paying you for every tweet impression, they pay you for ad impressions. So theoretically, tweet impression correlates ad impressions but like, I don't know. So you might post something that where people read a lot of the comments a lot more than something else.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I see.
Speaker 2:And the comments would have more ads. So yeah, it's it's still an approximation but that's not terrible. Like, I think so I think I I didn't qualify for it. I I think the qualification is you need 15,000,000 impressions over three months. I had 13,000,000, so I was close.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow. So you're gonna be rolling in Twitter cash soon. I mean, x cash. That sounds real dirty.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I could make, like, $40 a month based off of my last three months.
Speaker 1:That's Pay for your Twitter blue or your XBlue or whatever.
Speaker 2:Exactly. So if you take out that, then I'm making, like, $30 a month, which
Speaker 1:covers Oh, profit. Know. Pure profit.
Speaker 2:What do I what do I have that cost $30 a
Speaker 1:even a pizza. Man, stuff is expensive now. I actually notice prices when I travel and, like, stuff I I got Uber Eats one night. No joke. I got Uber Eats.
Speaker 1:It was a a single entree. Okay? And okay. Maybe a side. An entree and a side.
Speaker 1:It was like $72.
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:I went back and I looked, and then they didn't even send me the side.
Speaker 2:They just sent me the entree,
Speaker 1:which I got it refunded. But I I went through the ticket and like, because I was sitting there with friends, and it was like, how is one meal $72? And I went through it, and it was like the subtotal. Like, the actual food was like $38.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And it was
Speaker 1:just literally like as much money in the four different random fees. That was wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I know. I just booked a I just booked a flight because I'm visiting my parents and granted we booked it really late, which is really stupid. And every time we do this, we're like, next time we'll book it early and then we don't. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like we're going from Miami to New Jersey and it's it was like over a thousand dollars round trip. Oh, ready for a rant. Okay. Something has happened to flight tickets and I hate it. So do you guys remember at some point these quote unquote budget airlines started popping up like Spirit, Frontier?
Speaker 2:I don't know if they have them. Allegiant. Allegiant. Okay.
Speaker 1:So ours is Allegiant. Yeah. You said do you guys remember? Who who else are you talking to here? You talking to me?
Speaker 2:Just me? Just people in our audience.
Speaker 1:Oh, just people that listen. Okay. Okay. Sorry. We
Speaker 2:we have a Twitch chat, whatever. That's true. Yeah. Okay. So they popped up and their whole thing was, when you would search for flights, their prices would be so much lower than everyone else's because every single part of the flight was an add on.
Speaker 2:Literally picking your seat cost money.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You literally have to
Speaker 2:buy your seat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1:you wanna carry a personal item on? That'll be $15. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. I I I was like, okay, fine.
Speaker 2:It's good to have that option because theoretically, like when I came when I came to visit you guys in where did we go?
Speaker 1:Saint Pete.
Speaker 2:Saint Pete's. Yeah. So that was nice because it was it was like we're flying in the morning, coming back in the evening, we were carrying
Speaker 1:that You don't need
Speaker 2:So we don't pay for all the extra stuff. So I like like the option. But of course, it's like this game theory scenario where now all the other airlines are like, wait, what the hell? Like they're always showing it was the cheapest option. So now all the airlines are doing this.
Speaker 2:So now when I'm trying to book this flight, none of the prices were real. Every single airline, I tried every single airline, they have just a crazy amount of fees tacked on and it was probably almost twice as expensive when you go
Speaker 1:to actually
Speaker 2:check out. So I was just like, the world is worse now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. How yeah. How do you is that something that can be combated? Like, can there be legislation that's like, final price of anything. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 1:Plane tickets, Uber Eats, can't be more than 75% of the thing or something. Can we can we put some limits here?
Speaker 2:This is like a big part of having our system work. Like, need to be able to discover prices, discover accurate prices easily. That's like a key thing you need to have, like, a capitalist system work. So this is like completely eroding that. So yeah, I think this is one of the areas I'm like pretty like not into regulation generally but this is a place where I'm just like, you need you can't just have people making up prices that have no correlation to what people actually pay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There's gotta be some penalty for that, I would think.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So yeah. So booking plane tickets is just garbage now. So, yeah, we ended up paying so much for this this trip.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean, I'm used to having to pay a lot for flights because from Springfield, we connect anywhere we go, which means I don't know. It's not double, but it's like I think my flights are generally more expensive. I can remember being on the West Coast for a while when we were fundraising, and it's like, oh, flights are so cheap. I can fly somewhere for a $150, that's a thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, York to Miami, I've gone for a $150 before.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah. Not in the Ozarks.
Speaker 2:We paid like 5 or 600 round trip for each of us this time which Yeah. It's painful.
Speaker 1:Wait. So you just went to New York?
Speaker 2:No. I'm going I'm going this weekend.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're going this weekend. So you bought the tickets. What are doing in New York?
Speaker 2:I'm we're actually going to Jersey. We're actually not going to New York. But my parents live in New Jersey so we're going to just visit them a weekend. They're doing like a little thing. Liz's parents are actually going to.
Speaker 1:Are you gonna stop by your your your apartment, check it out, make sure everything looks mean, someone lives Yeah. Yeah. Be like, hey, I'm just in town. Thought I'd check out the place. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Make sure everything's
Speaker 2:in your bed for a little while.
Speaker 1:Could I just put the memories? Could I just maybe I'll sleep on the couch even.
Speaker 2:Man, it was hard to leave that apartment. Like, we just had so many memories in it. So when we were leaving, it was it was hard. But then, it felt hard and then the tenant wanted it painted a different color. So she so they were like painting it as we were leaving.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't hot. It was not a good color. Like I Oh, no.
Speaker 2:I didn't like it. And that made it so much easier to leave. We're like, okay, this just isn't our apartment anymore. So it was
Speaker 1:a That lot helps. Yeah. I don't have a lot of childhood nostalgia anymore because our house burned down.
Speaker 2:Oh, really?
Speaker 1:After we after we had already left, it got struck by lightning
Speaker 2:and burned my cramps. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's kinda symbolic of, like, there goes my childhood. It's all in the past now. I can't go back and visit. Can't, like it's just like there's a new house there, and it's kinda wild.
Speaker 2:Were people living in it when it got hit
Speaker 1:by lightning? They were all fine, but but yeah. We had a neighbor get struck by lightning in this neighborhood, like, not them, their house, and it blew a huge hole in the roof. And it was, like, in the middle of a rainstorm, so obviously, that's problematic. But he owns a roofing business.
Speaker 1:So he had, like, people over pretty fast, and, like, they were patching it with stuff. They just put a tarp or whatever. But he he described it as, like, they were in the house when it happened. Like, sockets blew out of the walls, like electrical sockets shot out of the walls in their upper room where it hit the ceiling. Just some wild stuff that sounds very terrifying.
Speaker 1:Never been
Speaker 2:involved There's with the strike that a show called How To with John Wilson. It's a incredibly incredibly weird show. It's on HBO. The guy basically, he lives in New York and I think every single day of his life, he just goes out with a camera and just walks around to like every crevice and corner of New York with the camera on. So he basically captures like all this really crazy footage.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But then he'll in retrospect, in hindsight, like, create like a narrative to like teach you something about New York. It's like it's it's like exaggerating a joke but
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It'll be like, you know, trying to find a bathroom in New York where it's like and you'll have like a bunch of footage of him like trying to get to a bathroom or he'll like narrate stuff and he'll just find all these little clips that go with what he's narrating. It's incredibly incredibly well done. But he always ends up in these situations where he finds like the weirdest people and somehow he's like in their house and they're talking about all this really weird stuff. One of the one of the people I remember was there was a guy, again, I don't know if this is true. The funniest part of the show is he'll the main topic will be something else and he'll somehow come across a person that just has like the craziest story somehow under the it's like not related to the main topic.
Speaker 2:So I don't remember what the topic was but he randomly wanted to talk to a guy about something very normal and the guy was like, oh yeah, got struck by lightning twice. And he explains how he was like sitting in his bed on the phone and it like came through the wire and like blew him off this bed Yeah. Hit the ceiling. Yeah. And he talked about, like, how long it took for him to, like, go through physical therapy and recover and whatever.
Speaker 2:And then it happened to him again. And I'm just, like, what the Like, how do you perceive the universe and life after that if you're
Speaker 1:in Oh, no kidding. If you've been struck twice yeah. Yeah. I mean, the chance
Speaker 2:is true. Yeah. It's just like, even once is insane and like getting hit again.
Speaker 1:I do know someone that was struck by lightning and they it's somebody that, like, older guy, very respectable in the community, would not make it up. Like, I just am convinced he really was struck he was struck in the thigh out in the field doing something. I think he had a farm. He was fine. I mean, like, I think he had, like, a scar, and it was obviously, like, a lot of pain but didn't kill him.
Speaker 1:I just thought you start by lightning. You're you're gone. Right? But apparently not?
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's been such crazy lightning here lately and it's so like, I think I said the other day, it's been knocking stuff off of our shelves. Like, it's that loud. I'm imagining getting hit by whatever is making that noise.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Sounds like it would kill you. Right? Yeah. It's like the Voldemort thing.
Speaker 1:Just walk away like Harry Potter. No big deal. That'd be a really cool story to be like, if you could survive being struck by lightning. Just think, you get to tell that story for the rest of your life. That's fun.
Speaker 2:So I assumed you only you like can't get hit with something taller than you around. Is that like a stupid myth?
Speaker 1:I have no idea. I mean, it seems like good, like, a heuristic that you don't wanna be the tallest thing around.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Because I But how big of
Speaker 1:a radius? Like, a five foot radius? A half a mile radius? Like, are you the tallest thing in this you know what I'm saying? Like If
Speaker 2:you got hit in a field, that makes sense because maybe that is what you're
Speaker 1:the tallest thing around. But there's probably trees, you know, somewhere in Yeah. A 100 yard radius or something. We're getting really into stuff we don't know anything about.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, I was trying think to like when I was listening to this guy saying I hit it twice, I'm like, okay, can this happen to me? I'm literally never I'm literally never around like,
Speaker 1:I'm
Speaker 2:never the tallest thing around. I'm always surrounded by a bunch of trees that are like a few feet away from me or like buildings or something. When I was my apartment in New York had a really great view of the World Trade Center. And shortly after I moved in there, I was sitting at my desk, I was like looking outside at night and I see a lightning bolt hit the top of the World Trade Center, like, the thing. Woah.
Speaker 2:I was like, this is insane. Like, no one's gonna believe I saw this. And it turns out it just happens like
Speaker 1:all Super common.
Speaker 2:Just every It's just a thing that is. And that's why they build those those like little those things.
Speaker 1:Those those rods, they really get used. It's not like just in case. Because I would have thought it was like a just in case thing, but it's like an active thing you could always gets hit. And it's
Speaker 2:it's really there's so many pictures of it too. I was like, this is so rare, but no, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's interesting. Like, if you're if you build the tallest building right now, the Freedom Tower, I guess, is the tall is that the tallest building in New York? Yeah. You build the tallest building, like all the other buildings, they can take their lightning rods down. It's like,
Speaker 2:I'm I'm
Speaker 1:good now. That one's getting struck. It's funny. Only the top one needs it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And don't don't don't, like, don't count on that, I guess. Just stay safe people.
Speaker 2:Don't know. Well, yeah. Mean, Empire State Building still has its it looks it looks naked when you remove it, you know. It's like it's a bit it's designed with that purpose Yeah. Mind.
Speaker 2:For sure. The thing that's funny about New York and I guess a lot of major cities is like the whole thing where you can have like a fantastic view and then someone just builds a bigger building and just Yeah. You're now looking at a wall.
Speaker 1:The side of a building. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's like such a crazy dynamic to me. There's like these air rites and like people arguing over it and
Speaker 1:Are there are there any other major buildings going up in Manhattan? Like is there any skyline altering towers that you're aware
Speaker 2:of? Yeah. There's there's there's pretty much always a few. They don't build them Okay, so lately what they've been doing is they've been building really skinny buildings that are super super tall. So like the traditional buildings you think of in New York are like, they're just massive in every direction.
Speaker 2:Girthy. Girthy, exactly. Thick thick towers. Yeah. But now they're like buying smaller plots of land and just building these things where you're just like, how is that gonna Seems unsafe.
Speaker 2:Stay
Speaker 1:Yeah. That does not seem safe.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like the world's most expensive apartment is in one of these buildings overlooking Central Park and it is just so narrow. Like every floor is a whole apartment and that's it. Oof.
Speaker 1:Don't love that trend.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And they sway. It's true. They do sway.
Speaker 1:The even the bigger like, the bigger ones like the Freedom Tower, is it swaying?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, you stand on the ground and look up and you can see them swaying. You think this is an optical illusion. And it's like, no, it's not. It's actually not an optical illusion.
Speaker 2:It's
Speaker 1:That's awful. I I don't do cities. That's why I live in the woods in the Ozarks. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This I mean, it's funny because this this show that I was just talking about, I like watching it because I'm like, oh, I can reminisce about living in New York. But he just makes it look so disgusting, like he just makes it because it's comedic and exaggerated And I'm like, did I really live there? Like, that is
Speaker 1:so I mean, it is disgusting. Just from an outside perspective, every time I go to New York, compared to any other city, it's so grimy feeling. I just feel like when I get out of the streets of New York, I've been like coated in something. I don't know if it's car exhaust, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:It's weird because my entire time living in New York, growing up in New Jersey, visiting New York, I never once felt gross. Like Really? People are always like, it's gross and it smells like garbage. I just literally don't know what they're talking about. But I know it's a me thing because when I walk around and try to notice it, I'm like, oh, shit, there's like literally trash everywhere.
Speaker 2:There's a
Speaker 1:reason smells like trash. You can see trash. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. In this summer, like, the heat and the and the trash day and, like, yeah, I can see why people say it smells like trash. But
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've ever been there in the winter. I think I've only ever been there in hot months. And it was sweltering and, like, I'm wearing a button up shirt, like a collared shirt for the it's the only time in my life because I'm in New York for some reason, and it's just disgusting. And, yeah, I just feel like there's, like, a layer of something caked on my skin that I can peel off in the hotel. It's gross.
Speaker 1:And the hotels are tiny. Like, that's that's not a normal hotel room. It's like a Sheraton or whatever, but what? It's like half of a room if that. That's paid the same price.
Speaker 1:It's super annoying.
Speaker 2:There is so I think it's hard to experience this specific thing unless you live there, but there's a single day every year and everyone knows about this. Everyone that's out there knows when I describe it, they know what they're gonna know what I'm talking about. It's in the spring. Basically, you have like the worst months of your whole life because it's freezing, dark, cold winter, everyone hates everything. Then there's this day that shows up and it's like the first nice day.
Speaker 1:And Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like literally, it feels like this is like what heaven would literally feel like. Everyone cuts out from work at 3PM, everyone is just outside, there's people on skateboards, like people are holding flowers for some reason, everyone's happy. I think there's like music playing in the background somehow. It's just like this magical day where it's like the perfect weather and it's like the first sign that, the misery of of winter is over. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that is like, New York is incredible in that zone, like, in that spring springtime when things are warming up. Yeah. But, yeah, most people I don't think it's like hard to it's like unlikely you would have traveled in that in that exact window.
Speaker 1:That little window? Yeah. We have that in the Ozarks too, by the way. We have that that first day when things it's like everything has blossomed overnight and everything is amazing. And then, like, the next week, it's 95 and a 100% humidity.
Speaker 1:Like, we get no spring or fall. They're like a week long where there's really nice weather and then it's crazy again. It's just we get the extremes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. New York spring lasts a while. Like New York spring and fall are people's favorites. I actually like the summer too just because it's like, I like don't mind the heat. But yeah, spring and fall are people's favorites and they and they do last a while.
Speaker 2:And also that the tree is changing color and
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:New York has a good amount of trees, believe it or not. So it's it does change the vibe of the whole city when when it's a fall.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like the yeah. I guess Central Park, that's a bunch of deciduous trees. They're turning colors in the fall.
Speaker 2:That's nice. I never liked the fall because I hate winter so much. And to me, fall is the first sign that winter's around the corner.
Speaker 1:Love fall so much. I think I thought, like, it was a trope to love fall, but I just I get very excited toward the end of summer because fall is probably my favorite.
Speaker 2:I I think People love fall.
Speaker 1:The thing about fall, I get what you're saying. I don't like the dead of the winter. But after fall, you've got all the holidays. Like, you've got Thanksgiving and Halloween and Christmas. And, like, to me, that's a very exciting time of year, especially with kids.
Speaker 1:The fall is just like this warm up that's really nice. It's like things cooling off. We're doing stuff with pumpkins, and we're decorating with, you know, oranges and reds. It's a good time. It it gets really pretty here in the Ozarks.
Speaker 1:Like, the the color of the trees are nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, now that you're describing it, I'm like, ugh, that does sound really nice. I'm like getting all these memories. Some like,
Speaker 1:yeah, warm drinks like cider.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. But here's thing, this not gonna be a thing for me anymore. Like, I grew up the whole my whole life in the Northeast where this
Speaker 1:is Seasons. A
Speaker 2:And now, yeah, it's funny though. Liz always complains about this. She's like, the prop she's like, the Northeast has a monopoly on I don't know which is it. It's either she says that it's either fall or like on Christmas or on holidays where everyone does the Northeast version of holidays. So we'll like put up a Christmas tree up here in an environment where like, why what the hell is a Christmas tree doing here?
Speaker 2:People will like wanna wear sweaters and do like fall sweaty things but,
Speaker 1:like Yeah.
Speaker 2:What the like, that doesn't make any sense here. So she wishes that we would just, like, figure out we could still celebrate the same holidays, we'd, like, figure out, like, a more native version of it. But, yeah, the whole world just celebrates Northeast Thanksgiving and Northeast Yeah. Christmas.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't consider it Northeast when I live in The Ozarks. We get all those seasons. So I but sure.
Speaker 2:That's Yeah. That's true. We all celebrate New York's holidays.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Like like our pumpkins are they like local? Because to me, like like all those like pumpkins
Speaker 1:and squash and that's a very big piece of Northeast specific? No. We we grow all that stuff, yeah, here in The Ozarks. Yeah. There's a huge pumpkin field, like, two minutes from my house.
Speaker 2:They they already grow like, you can
Speaker 1:not you don't see pumpkins, but, the plants. Yeah. They grow so many pumpkins. And it's stupid because, like, they're selling them, but they sell, like, 10% of them and the rest of them just get tilled into the ground for next year. Like, that it's this giant field.
Speaker 1:And then, like, seriously, they will sell next to none of them. So it's kinda stupid.
Speaker 2:Wait. So I'm always confused by this. Do they literally just grow them for Halloween? Or like how much of them are they selling throughout the year?
Speaker 1:I mean, like, it's not just Halloween. I think it's like all the fall season. Like, go to pumpkin patches a
Speaker 2:lot around here.
Speaker 1:Like, that's so they like that's a pumpkin patch where you can go pick your own pumpkin. And we eat we make pies with pumpkins. Like, we do all the stuff you can do with pumpkins. Well, maybe not all the stuff. All the stuff that anyone should do with pumpkins.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm gonna stop talking. That just sounds dirty too.
Speaker 2:I like pumpkin pie so I'm I'm a fan of fan of pumpkins.
Speaker 1:Oh, pumpkin pie is so good. Yeah. It's the best.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So we do have something called I haven't been to this because I don't know what it is so I might be making this up entirely. I have heard people here in Miami talking about Pumpkin Patch and in the fall, they go to Pumpkin Patch.
Speaker 1:In Miami,
Speaker 2:But they're not saying let's go to a Pumpkin Patch or let's go to the Pumpkin Patch. They're saying we're gonna go to Pumpkin Patch.
Speaker 1:Go to Pumpkin Patch? I'm sorry. Because
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it's just a theme park that is What? Fall not really a theme park. I think it's just some kinda like fall themed
Speaker 1:Like all year round in Miami, you can go to the Pumpkin Patch Theme Park and you get a little taste of fall. That sounds nice actually.
Speaker 2:It's something like that because I'm like, there's no there's like no I don't think you can grow pumpkin in this planet. Like, don't think there's a literal pumpkin patch. I think it's just some kind of like not carnival, something just one of those like little little things.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That sounds fun.
Speaker 2:I have seen this like, is that weirdly, this was in New York. It was in it was a good display of like alternative Christmas tree concepts. And there was like one like Like palm trees? They're they're so shaped like they were so shaped like Christmas trees but they were like made out of like more tropical plants. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And some of it looked really cool and I was like, okay, this is what we should do down here. We should have these like they can still be the Christmas tree shape. I think that's Yeah. Iconic but they don't have to be made out of
Speaker 1:They don't have to be
Speaker 2:a tree we shipped in from the Northeast strapped to a truck. It's so sad and then it literally feels because like, in in the Northeast, we would go to a farm and then cut down the tree, like a tree that was growing Yeah. Cut it down. Right? I'm sure you guys have done that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But if you're in Miami, you're shipping them in from Canada or Yeah.
Speaker 2:In Miami, you go, this tent pops up at the parking lot at the Home Depot and there's all these, these trees that's like pre wrapped in like Yeah. Yeah. That tree wrap that just looked like they were just captured from the wild and like Four trees. Yeah. Just Yeah.
Speaker 2:Shipped down here and squeezed. And then you go and you you like unwrap it in your house and look it looks it looks terrible. It's like just a piece of crap. Like half the tree is missing.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the price you pay for living in a beautiful place like Miami.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We just don't get our Christmas trees. Like, we did we did the Christmas tree thing, like, two years ago when we were just here for a couple months and I was like,
Speaker 1:I don't
Speaker 2:think I wanna do this anymore. Like, it just felt wrong.
Speaker 1:It's funny. I really gotta pee.
Speaker 2:So I think we gotta end it. Alright.
Speaker 1:That was very abrupt. I'm sorry. I was really enjoying the Christmas Eve banter. If I didn't have to pee, would enjoy it so much more. Can you tell I'm squirming?
Speaker 1:You're just doing the thing.
Speaker 2:You're doing the thing. Just doing thing. We'll talk
Speaker 1:on Thursday.
Speaker 2:Cool. Alright. See you. See you.
