Vacation, Addiction, and The Jetsons
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Speaker 2:Can Can we talk about how I'm so polite and you're such a jerk online and somehow it works together? Am I a jerk online too? Wait. Are we both jerks?
Speaker 1:I am not a jerk online.
Speaker 2:Okay. Sure, Dex.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. You know what? Let's get into this.
Speaker 2:Let's get into it.
Speaker 1:This past week, how many people were upset with me? Oh. None. How many people were upset with you? More than zero.
Speaker 2:Okay. Okay. Okay. So you win this week. You're the you're the nice guy this week.
Speaker 2:Good call. I definitely
Speaker 1:I'm not a jerk but maybe I'm toxic. Is that a
Speaker 2:better That's way to phrase worse. Good call.
Speaker 1:Because I'm mean to people and that just makes them want to make me like them more.
Speaker 2:Wait, what?
Speaker 1:Like, I feel like like I make fun of people but then they're just like, oh, okay. But like, you know, next time we're say something nice, you know? Like, I may I may people crave the nice comment I dole out one every 10 memes.
Speaker 2:You're the Simon Cowell. It's the Simon Cowell thing. Right?
Speaker 1:Like Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm talking about? What was the show? Who who wants to be a no?
Speaker 1:American Idol. American Idol. American Idol. Yeah. Who wants to be an American Idol?
Speaker 2:Whatever. He would do, like, terrible, terrible feedback. Like, everybody, like, you're just awful. You're so bad at singing. And then when he's nice
Speaker 1:It's a huge deal.
Speaker 2:It's like this tear jerking moment. Yeah. It's a big deal.
Speaker 1:That you see, I I definitely resonate with that because I feel like that is more genuine and more honest.
Speaker 2:I guess. I I just made a video about it, actually. I can't disagree with you. I really wanna disagree with you, but I just talked about how being honest paid off for me once, the one time I was honest. No.
Speaker 2:I mean, like, being, like, super direct and, like Yeah. Totally transparent. Sometimes it's really refreshing. It can be nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You should go back to that instead of meeting people on Twitter and not unfollowing them. What?
Speaker 2:I unfollowed somebody?
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. That's a problem. You never unfollow anyone. You just mute them.
Speaker 2:Oh, muting people. I thought I said meeting people on Twitter. No. No. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Muting yeah. No. I just mute people. Never mind. Your brain never goes somewhere and then you're like, stop thinking about this immediately.
Speaker 2:Stop. It's gonna come out of your mouth. Just stop.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about how you're gonna end the week with a nice little vacation.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. Going on vacation. We're going to Florida and you live in Florida. So we're gonna see each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like the first day we're there, I think.
Speaker 1:I think so. We we haven't really booked
Speaker 2:We get there Friday.
Speaker 1:No. No. We haven't booked anything yet. So we might do Saturday. We might fly out Saturday morning.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And then, like, early morning, and then we might just go back Saturday evening.
Speaker 2:So this is a terrible time to have this conversation, Dax. But actually, talk to Casey, and we'd prefer you don't come. I hope that's okay. Why can't I keep a straight face?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I couldn't either.
Speaker 2:Thought that'd be fun if I could
Speaker 1:really convince you. No one
Speaker 2:said I'll never sneak up on you or something like that. You'll just always see through me.
Speaker 1:I had no response. I mean, I honestly had no response. I was like, what do I even say
Speaker 2:to that? Did you think I was serious?
Speaker 1:No. No. I didn't think you were serious, but I was There's no way
Speaker 2:to play off the bit. I gotcha. I wasn't trying to make it a bit. I was trying to make it really awkward and hopefully sell you, but you didn't believe me.
Speaker 1:So there you was actually kind of relieved. I didn't wanna go.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:There we go. That's that's the
Speaker 2:right way to respond. You would find a way to turn that around and do an insult on me.
Speaker 1:You guys are gonna be at that resort. I'm not gonna say what resort. Yeah, please don't. Who knows? People might show up.
Speaker 2:You just never know. You never know.
Speaker 1:Our our wild rabbit fans might show up. So we I don't know if we can can we, like, visit you there? Like, how does that work?
Speaker 2:Just like, you wanna come hang out on the beach? We can go get lunch.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There's, a day pass thing we can get, that would be perfect.
Speaker 2:Oh, like a day pass to you don't need a pass. The what? It's a hotel. You just, come hang out with us.
Speaker 1:But, like, resorts are weird, you know? Aren't they like
Speaker 2:Are they?
Speaker 1:You don't have a wristband. We're gonna kick you out.
Speaker 2:Don't think so. I mean, it's a public beach, isn't it? I don't know. Is it? We're not saying somewhere like fancy fancy.
Speaker 2:It's just a hotel on the beach.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. We'll we'll we'll do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm sure we can figure it out. Like, there's not gonna be any, like, I don't know, hall passes needed or whatever. We'll just we'll hang out. I mean, that's the the whole day will just be like for like, what we would have done if you're not there is just, like, beach, go out to eat a few times, and beach.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, would love to do all that with you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm excited. Liz keeps telling me that the beaches there are beautiful. Have you been there before?
Speaker 2:No. Casey just went for, like, a volleyball thing, but I've never been. I mean, I've been to Tampa. I've just never gone to the beaches in Saint Pete.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's gonna be really convenient for us. The flight is like an hour, so it's almost like like a train ride this week.
Speaker 2:It's like the LA to San Francisco thing. It's just like a three hour drive, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah. But like for a single day doing
Speaker 2:Yeah. To drive there Yeah. And That's what we do when we do the Kansas City thing. But you spend more time driving than you do at the place, which is no fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We would have stayed for longer, but, like, we didn't have someone we didn't have someone to watch Zuko. By the way, it's Zuko's birthday today. It's his one year old birthday.
Speaker 2:One year old Yeah. Zuko. Zuko's cool.
Speaker 1:Is that
Speaker 2:a real picture of Zuko that you dressed up in all that, like, military car
Speaker 1:Carbag gear? No. Found it the dog. Okay. It's a picture of a Doberman holding, an assault rifle wearing bulletproof Yeah.
Speaker 1:Vest. Liz showed it to her grandma, her grandma was like, oh, Zuko's so cute. And I just had no reaction besides that.
Speaker 2:Nothing didn't say a thing. No. Oh, it's awesome. When you get to that age, you just you're just kinda floating. You don't care.
Speaker 2:Just floating through life. But Casey's grandma has coffee with Baileys in it every morning, and I just love that. Wow. She's like 95, and it's like, sure. Why not?
Speaker 2:You wake up and just get toasted every morning.
Speaker 1:Do you guys drink at home?
Speaker 2:Like, alcohol? Yeah. So Casey's never really drank much alcohol. She's like, just health reasons, she just doesn't really I mean, she had, like, a college phase where she got really into it. But in adulthood, she doesn't really care for it.
Speaker 2:I like a glass of red wine, although I haven't done it a lot lately. It's probably been, like it's been six months to a year since I was like, I think I'll have a glass of wine. But, yeah, I mean, we drink it at home. If we do drink it, we don't go out, so we definitely don't go out and drink. I guess with the tech conference, that was, the last time I drank would be with other adults, not with my kids.
Speaker 1:I'm kinda the same. I I I don't really drink that often at all. But a few times a year, I will. We me and Liz have a funny relationship because she is like a lot more masculine. She has a lot of these, like, typically masculine habits.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's like way more likely that she's gonna be sitting in like a leather chair smoking a cigar like drinking like, glass of something. Amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it. I've always thought it'd be cool to be one of those people that has, like, the little round ice balls and, like, the little short glass and you drink whatever it is they put in it, bourbon or scotch or whatever, and just, like, sit in some fancy room and drink that kind of stuff. It just seems so cool. But I also thought it'd be cool to be like the dad who gets up and, like, sits at the table and eats breakfast with the newspaper. I genuinely have always wanted to do that.
Speaker 1:I don't
Speaker 2:it's so it's super dumb. But I've just wanted to, like, be that stereotype so bad.
Speaker 1:I can't see you doing the the drinking one at least. That doesn't seem like you.
Speaker 2:No. Yeah. Sorry. I don't I'm not, like, fancy enough or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I do like I like some drinks. There are some cocktails and things that I like. I do not like just drinking straight alcohol. Like, that just sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Liz makes a lot of cocktails and she's trying to, like, cut back on the actual alcohol part. So now she's been making them without alcohol, which means I can have them and they are like super They're delicious.
Speaker 2:Wait, you can't wait, you can't consume alcohol?
Speaker 1:Wait, what? No, I can. I just don't for me, I'm not gonna bother drinking unless I'm gonna get super drunk. That's like my Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just like it's like the social element of like, it's gonna be a good time. You're gonna make Yeah.
Speaker 1:Memories. So I'm not gonna have just, like, one drink because it's not worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like, why poison your body for no reason? Yeah. That the younger generation knows this. Right?
Speaker 2:They figured out, like, coffee and alcohol not great to just consume every day, and, like, our generations are dumb. We did that.
Speaker 1:Did they eject out of coffee? I feel like everyone drinks coffee.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think that's a thing, isn't it? The Zoomers, they don't they don't think that caffeine and coffee are necessary to function.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, who doesn't drink coffee?
Speaker 2:You don't drink coffee.
Speaker 1:I don't drink coffee. Know who
Speaker 2:else doesn't drink coffee? I don't drink we're pretty annoying. We are this is a pair of pretty annoying people. I don't drink coffee.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2:You know this about me?
Speaker 1:There was just a okay. There there are couple days where you just got caffeinated and went crazy. I do remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. No. I definitely have caffeine on occasion. And I used to be really into the just black coffee every morning.
Speaker 2:I did the whole thing. I'm like a reformed recovering coffee drinker. But, yeah, I just when you drink it every day, you just have to have it
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:To, like, be normal. And when you don't drink it every day, you realize you can just be normal without it. And then when you have it, rarely, once every couple weeks or something, it's like superpowers. I feel like I can run laps. I have, like, 15 new business ideas.
Speaker 2:Just like everything is just on track. You feel in such a good mood. Everything's just great. But you gotta do it rarely.
Speaker 1:For me, I just never got into the taste of it and I'm just like, I can't do it. I don't like the way it tastes.
Speaker 2:Well, because it's it's objectively disgusting. I mean, there's nothing about coffee that is actually attractive. It smells bad. I mean, it's okay. It smells good.
Speaker 2:Smells good.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Think it smells good.
Speaker 2:It doesn't smell good on people. Like coffee breath that stains your teeth. It all the things we just said about caffeine. It's just bitter. It's like ground up beans.
Speaker 2:It's yeah. It's not good tasting, but you do develop this, like, affection for it where you really enjoy the taste because you've been brainwashed by the caffeine.
Speaker 1:See, I say this all the time. I was like, oh, I'm just pretending I like coffee. And I won't get so pissed when I say it, which is why I say it. And I keep saying
Speaker 2:it more and more. I mean, it's you start out pretending to like it, and then eventually, actually I get the argument that you do really enjoy it. And my wife is like, why can't just get a tease and it's just different?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think it's never gonna be as good as I enjoyed coffee, but it's all just the caffeine addiction. Right? It's just we're just little mice addicted to our drugs. That's a whole another topic. Just like the things we were are you have you ever not had something that was, like, a constant dopamine supplier?
Speaker 2:Have you ever felt like you had no addictions whatsoever? I think I just replaced them.
Speaker 1:May I I I never thought of it that way, but I guess so. I'm always do it like, I'm always, like, on, like, trying to do something which I guess is that.
Speaker 2:That's your your thing? Yeah. I mean, work has definitely been that thing for me for large stretches of my
Speaker 1:life. Yeah. Exactly. It's like work or is that not normal?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Like, does anyone that's what I my question is, like, does anyone exist where nothing has, like, that hold on them where, like, they wake up and it's the first thing they're thinking about? Like, I feel like I've always had something like that my entire life. It's just different things.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm trying to think. I honestly cannot imagine a different way of being and anytime I try to imagine a different way of being, it just feels empty or like lost. Me, I can't imagine, like, a positive version of it. I'm sure a positive version of it exists, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Like, I I always need something I'm trying to work towards.
Speaker 2:I guess I've only experienced the negative version too. Like, the only time I can think of where I didn't have that was the very wandering, like, aimless stretch. It was after I got fired at statmuse. I was just it's like I that was my identity, and I didn't have anything else. And, yeah, it was not good.
Speaker 2:But I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. People have always told me I
Speaker 2:should be more balanced. Like, I I flex one muscle too much. So I think about these things.
Speaker 1:Maybe. But I think what I the thing I we may even talk about this before. Maybe on a different on a previous episode. But I always think about this concept of people, like, really being eager to retire when they hit retirement age and they retire and then they die shortly after. Like, they deteriorate really quickly and they die.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Mhmm. And I've seen this a lot, like, up close where in the span of five years, I'll just go from, like, a normal live person to kinda like a shell of who they were. Yeah. And I kinda think it's this, it's like the moment you stop you, you know, start to deteriorate in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1:I think about Warren Buffett and how he's like, he is so old. Oh my god, he is like so old. But he's still working and talking about stuff every single day. Like, he's gonna be doing that till like Yeah. The last thing he says is gonna be something work related before he dies probably.
Speaker 1:And he is so mentally there compared to a lot of other people like even ten years younger than him. So I feel like there's something there.
Speaker 2:So what do you say to people that I I feel like I've had these conversations, especially online, it turns into, like feel like you're missing out if you if you're just working, like, to experience other things in life? Or do you do you buy into the retirement thing? Like, is that a past generation concept of, like, working till you're 55 or 65 or whatever and then retiring? Is that just, like, a privileged thing? I don't know.
Speaker 2:All these things are in conflict in my brain. Like, should I just work on this stuff as long as I possibly can? Is is that what you're saying? Like, I'll grow old more gracefully if I do?
Speaker 1:I think yeah. I think when you don't have a purpose and your brain's not actively working on stuff, it just does deteriorate as you get older. I don't know, the people that say you're missing out, think it's just arbitrary. It's like, you're looking at the stuff I'm doing and you're personally deciding, I don't care about that and you like other stuff. That's fine but it's weird to say, oh, you're missing out.
Speaker 1:Because I can just say, you're missing out on stuff that I'm getting, you know. It's I don't know. I don't really understand that. The thing I'm more talking about is the people that are like, work sucks. There's no form of work that can't suck.
Speaker 1:So the thing you should optimize for is to like retire by the age of 40. And then it's like the the fire thing or whatever, financial independence, retire early, whatever that thing is. The whole subreddit, the whole community and culture around this. And I'm just like, okay, but like then then what? Like, did you set up a life where or you set up like a a life where once you're that age, you now have momentum to do other stuff or you're just kind of like I feel like most people don't have plans or just like, don't want to work.
Speaker 1:And hit that and it's gonna okay. Now what are you gonna do? Are you gonna spend a lot time with your family and kids and all that stuff as well? But, you know, is that it's not gonna be a 100% of your time Yep. Especially as they get older as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Are the fire people is that the Fyre Festival? Is that people who want to retire early? I honestly don't know. Doesn't make
Speaker 1:an actual question. Okay.
Speaker 2:I can't this is like
Speaker 1:so like, these two concepts cannot be more unrelated.
Speaker 2:Oh, really? Okay.
Speaker 1:The Fyre Festival was that crazy, like did you never see the documentary or, like, never looked into the
Speaker 2:I think I've heard of the documentary. Is this the one that's in the desert?
Speaker 1:No. No. No. No. No.
Speaker 1:It's Burning Man. Also fire related, I guess, the way it
Speaker 2:sounds Also fire. Wow. Yeah. That's confusing. They should really work on their names.
Speaker 1:No. And and there's Fire Island, is also a completely different concept.
Speaker 2:So I've never even heard of that one. So it must be really spicy.
Speaker 1:Fire Fire Festival was this thing, it's like super hype music festival. I forgot where, some island in The Caribbean and it was like crazy crazy hype, like so many, like, celebrities and like, it's like, it was gonna be the biggest music festival ever and it ended up being a complete disaster because the guy behind it was just like so so incompetent. Like people showed up and they were like, tents and like not even tents and there was like Styrofoam things with like one slice of bread in it for free. Was just like everything possibly went on.
Speaker 2:So FTX but with music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. That's what it's like.
Speaker 2:And there's
Speaker 1:a whole documentary on it. It's actually it's actually really hilarious. It's like the craziest, funniest stuff. Okay. So it's a one time thing.
Speaker 2:That's not an ongoing festival. Okay. So the fire people, they can they could reclaim that name. They could bring on or back.
Speaker 1:F I r e n. I think fire festival might have been with a y because, of course, it's gonna be with a y.
Speaker 2:That's so funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Fire retire early, Fyre Festival, both not for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Not for me. I just my wife has always asked, like, what would you do if you retired? I just can't imagine a world. But at the same time, like, AI, all this stuff, it's like, am I actually gonna be doing what I do right now for another twenty, thirty, forty years?
Speaker 1:Probably not. You weren't doing what you're doing right now two years ago.
Speaker 2:True. Such a measured take. Look at you. Just off the dome. You just had that one ready.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I don't know what I'm be doing in five years, but I know it's gonna look like work. But it's gonna be maybe completely different.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's true. And that's been constant in our careers. Hey. I got a question that's random for
Speaker 1:you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you could only be on one Internet place. Like, one social media platform, I'll say. Like, you could only hang out in YouTube comments, on Twitter, on Twitch. One place for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1:What what do you think? That's my life. Oh, I'm gonna have an annoying answer. It's gonna be Discord.
Speaker 2:Oh, good call.
Speaker 1:And I'll give you a very detailed reason why.
Speaker 2:Okay, please.
Speaker 1:So the hard for me, the hard choice between is for me, I would naturally say Twitter, like, because that's where I spend a lot of my time.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You love drama, etcetera.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, of course. And I like I've invested the most there. But if I had to pick one, I'd pick Discord because, again, just like a chat platform, good for having one to one relations with people. SST works out of there, so obviously for work.
Speaker 1:But Mhmm. This is very specific. Nikita Beer works at Discord now. And Discord also recently said, you said a thing where they were like, you know how Discord does that thing where it's like your username plus a bunch of random numbers after?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:They're going back on that and they're saying everyone needs unique usernames now.
Speaker 2:Oh, seriously?
Speaker 1:So, like, over the next couple of months, like, they're gonna roll that out so people based on the age of your account, you get an opportunity to choose your username first.
Speaker 2:Oh, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm gonna register adam dot dev.
Speaker 2:Stop it. I'll take t h t x r. Wouldn't that be funny? We hate each other's That'd be funny.
Speaker 1:So they're making that shift plus Nikita Beer works there who's like just the social media god.
Speaker 2:Yeah. He's the guy that they found it. They they acquired it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. So I I don't know. He has also tweeted saying that he's like kinda done with that but my bet here would be the reason they're doing the username thing is because they're trying to do something that's a little bit more like global versus, like, everything in Discord is scoped to servers.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I wonder if they're gonna do something like Twitter or, like, whatever the next generation of Twitter could be. Plus, like, he's just a genius so I think he would run that really well if he's involved. So if had to pick one to mix up, I like it today. I've used it for a long time.
Speaker 1:It's gotten so much better over the years. I've used it, never had a complaint with it. And I feel like I can still get 1,000 times better. There you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I do think, like, I've noticed a lot more of taking like my Twitter DMs to Discord. Like, hey, do you have Discord? This is just it's awkward to remember to check Twitter DMs. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I've noticed that.
Speaker 1:I I love the mix that there's it's like Slack where there's like, you know, workspaces and you have like your company or different projects whatever. But the DMs are global which is the issue with Slack. Like you meet someone in one Slack and you're just gonna continue to message them in that one Slack about, like, anything. So it's always been kinda weird. So DMs being global while also having that, it's like, again, like, brilliant design.
Speaker 2:But the number of servers though, what is the solve for just I know you can do, like, folders. I noticed
Speaker 1:you can drop them off. Servers. I I don't know. I just don't feel it need to be.
Speaker 2:Is do I have, like, a FOMO problem? What why am I in so many servers?
Speaker 1:Do we even look at them? I've been calling No. Never. Them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Can't believe I never thought
Speaker 1:of I just keep ones that I message often enough in because they're usually like open source ones where I like I just need troubleshooting help just like support stuff. Yeah. And that is pretty much it. And I have SST and I had just yeah. Just ones that I'm if I'm not like actively posting in there at least once a week, it's like there's no reason it needs to be there.
Speaker 2:No. That's such a good point. I'm gonna delete them all. Because I literally get notifications sometimes from some of these things. Like, when I try and enable Discord notifications on my phone because I wanna make sure I get something, and then I'm getting them from all these random places that I have ever visited once.
Speaker 2:Just gotta leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The server thing can get kinda messy, but I don't know. Yeah. I I I've just loved it as a platform for super long. Also, the voice the drop in voicing such a such a smart implementation instead of like doing voice calls just makes it flow away more naturally.
Speaker 1:Like Slack tried to like copy it but they decided to do their own take on it. But then their own take on it just kinda undid the magic of it. So yeah, it's just like I just trust that company.
Speaker 2:Is there like a walk sorry. I was listening. I totally was listening. But is there like a walkie talkie equivalent in 2023 where like me and you could just I could just like press a button and walkie talkie you?
Speaker 1:Yeah. There's apps that do that. Really?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And if I did it, you would hear it just, like, it would come over your phone immediately.
Speaker 1:That does sound really fun. Doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Like, something about that just sounds so fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. I I used to physically have walkie talkies with my friends.
Speaker 2:I mean, we can't get some that are Internet enabled, can we? Where I could
Speaker 1:just have a walkie talkie here and
Speaker 2:you could have one in South Florida and we could just like, beep.
Speaker 1:I mean, you're just reinventing a phone. But, yeah, there there are
Speaker 2:But it's not there's no permission needed. I can just start talking in your presence and you can't do anything about it. That's the difference with walking times.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. No. I know. I I have seen apps that that do that.
Speaker 1:Do you have do you remember like the Next step? Was it Nextel? The little chirp? Yeah.
Speaker 2:The chirp. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yep. My dad and all his friends had that and that seemed a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Oh, do you have an Apple Watch? No. Why?
Speaker 1:I just got an iPhone, like, last
Speaker 2:month. You don't have an Apple Watch yet? You've had it for a month?
Speaker 1:I have an iPhone. I don't have AirPods and I don't have an Apple Watch.
Speaker 2:You don't have AirPods? Those come with the phone now, don't they?
Speaker 1:No. Who are you the phone doesn't even come with the charger. Like,
Speaker 2:it just I no idea. Does it come with a charger?
Speaker 1:Did I tell you my experience of buying an iPhone? Okay. Let me tell you my experience. Ten years of avoiding Apple, everyone's like, oh, you gotta go to Apple, everything is a great experience. Here's here's my experience of buying an iPhone.
Speaker 1:I show up to the store, okay, One of the best retail experiences, supposedly the best An Apple ever, store. An Apple store. Okay.
Speaker 2:You know? Because you can't go to like an AT and T store probably and that would be awful but go ahead.
Speaker 1:No no no. I go to the Apple store, I go stand in front of the iPhone and I look around and everyone the staff is walking around free form, you know, because they're they gotta do everything different. Yeah. Trying to get someone's attention. Eventually, I do.
Speaker 1:They're like, oh, sorry, I can't help you. And I'm like, okay. And then they're like, you need to go to the front over there What? And put your name on a waiting list. They go to the front and I go put my name on a waiting list.
Speaker 2:To get a phone?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then I wait. I I had no questions. I really wanted to buy, pay it in cash and leave, Right? No.
Speaker 1:I needed nothing from them. Yeah. I'm okay. Plan on my way. Let's wait fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1:Finally, Apple employee comes up. She goes, hey, I'm not the person that can help you, but I'm the person that's gonna help you find the person that can help you. So then I have
Speaker 2:to explain to her what
Speaker 1:I need and she's of course asking me the script like, do you need it? I no. Just wanna buy the phone and I wanna leave. But then she then finds me someone and this person finally is helping me. Again, takes way too long.
Speaker 1:Eventually get the phone, walking out. I somehow dropped the bag with the phone in it and it falls on my toe. I'm wearing, I'm wearing sandals. It falls on my toe in this weird way where the edge of the box hits the edge of like, right where my toenail meets like the rest of my toe. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my foot just starts bleeding. Oh. Like crazy. And then I drive home with like, a kind of like a bleeding foot. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I get home and I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I have I have an iPhone now.
Speaker 2:What a weird story, man. What a strange shopping experience. I've not done the Apple Store thing much, but that sounds that can't be the normal experience. They surely, are more prepared for a person walks in to buy iPhone. Like, that just sounds so incompetent.
Speaker 2:Apple seems competent.
Speaker 1:I mean, the thing is, like, I get the vibe they want, which is like, oh, it's like an open space where, like, everything's free flowing, which is a cool vibe. But there's a reason stores have, like, grab the thing, go to checkout. Right? There's like Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's just whenever something doesn't follow a pattern, it just turns into chaos because no one knows what to do or what to expect. But, yeah, fantastic experience. IPhone, Apple, great. Amazing. I'm so glad I'm gonna see you go get some now.
Speaker 2:So that I just order stuff. I because I don't live where there's an Apple store. I'm just used to, like, I can't go get nice things. I just have to buy them on the Internet and they come to me in a few days. They should've just done that.
Speaker 2:You your toe would think
Speaker 1:you That's what I was gonna do, but I was like,
Speaker 2:you know what?
Speaker 1:Let me get out of the house. Let me go do a thing. Let me get my thing right away. And it cost me my toe. And they had to amputate it, so now I have no toe.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Okay. You need to get an Apple Watch is where this was headed.
Speaker 1:Okay. Wait. But I can't believe can walkie talkie me on my Apple Watch.
Speaker 2:There are walkie there's a
Speaker 1:walkie talkie a walkie talkie app on the
Speaker 2:Apple Watch. It's built into the Apple Watch. So I think we could just have it native or I could, like, chirp, and you might have to accept
Speaker 1:it or something. I'm not sure. We should I should try one more to our like like we're spies or something? Talking to our wrist?
Speaker 2:Sounds kinda awesome, doesn't it? Here's a question for you. Was just thinking how that sounds so futuristic. Why this is something my wife and I talk about at a minimum once a month. Why has no one invented a shower like the Jetsons?
Speaker 2:I don't understand how all the advances in technology
Speaker 1:What is the shower like the Jetsons? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2:Do you know what the Jetsons is?
Speaker 1:I know what the Jetsons
Speaker 2:This why. Is why this is why it hasn't happened because the brightest minds in the world, like Dax, don't even know about the Jetsons anymore. The Jetsons was like the futuristic TV show for to get the cartoon.
Speaker 1:It is. Still don't remember the shower. What was a shower?
Speaker 2:It's like a car wash for people. You walk through it. Or maybe even just like you stand in it, and it just like scrubs you down. You do nothing, and then you're clean, and you get out of the shower. Blow dryer is the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Like, it should be an experience just like the car wash for people. And I don't understand how technology has advanced in these insane ways, and we haven't thought about the bathroom at all. We haven't made showers better. Yeah. Please.
Speaker 1:What's great about cars is they don't have crevices. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2:Oh, you think it couldn't wait. You just think it couldn't get you clean? You have to spread your legs maybe and your arms. He's like Vitruvian man.
Speaker 1:So it would get your extremities, but, you know
Speaker 2:Okay. Okay. Well, I don't know. Bidets. What?
Speaker 2:I feel like
Speaker 1:That's true. A bidet. You're right. A bidet
Speaker 2:It's just like a full body bidet. I need one. I'm so tired of having to actively wash my body. How have we not moved that and, like, abstracted that away from us? Is someone mowing the lawn inside your office?
Speaker 1:Or is it outside? Wait. What is that? Because I don't even have a real lawn. What is leaf blower.
Speaker 1:Must be
Speaker 2:Sorry. This is so funny. It's so loud.
Speaker 1:Well, hang on. Hang on. Okay. So do you imagine it's on a conveyor belt? Are you, like, standing still and it's, like, rotating or something?
Speaker 1:Or, like, stuff is going I'm not
Speaker 2:with either. I could imagine it'd be more logistically feasible for it to be a standstill situation. Yeah. If it's a a like a conveyor belt, you got some runway there you need,
Speaker 1:you know? I imagine that it's this is all technically feasible. It might just be that the economically the demand is just not there because
Speaker 2:Everyone would buy that shower. I don't understand.
Speaker 1:No. Clearly, only you would buy that shower. I will not buy that If
Speaker 2:you had the option between shower that showers for you or you have to shower like a caveman, you're choosing you're gonna spend less money, save money so that you can spend thirty minutes every day.
Speaker 1:It's not about the money. It's just like I don't I don't know. Like, I I don't mind showering. I enjoy showering. It's like I'm I'm fine touching myself and rubbing myself, like, that's okay.
Speaker 2:Okay. This is going places. Adam's so antisocial he doesn't
Speaker 1:even wanna, like, touch his own skin. Yeah. I don't I'm okay with it. It just seems like a lot of complexity, room for error, room for things to break, for something.
Speaker 2:It would literally save me, like, twenty, twenty five minutes a day. We do so many things to save off, like, five minutes. I I feel like, I don't know. There's an opportunity there. I want robots, and I want them to do everything.
Speaker 1:Wants us to, the shower?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. For sure. I thought everyone did. Apparently, we're the weird couple that doesn't like showering ourselves. Okay.
Speaker 2:I'll take that back to my wife. We'll we'll reflect on that.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think exactly what a car wash does where it has those giant, like, things that, like, go around, like I feel like it would just hurt. I don't know. It just would just not be a good experience.
Speaker 2:It has to be made for humans. You couldn't literally just, size down a
Speaker 1:car wash. Yeah. But then it had to it had to be, like, then it had to be, like, really precise, and I feel like machines aren't good at being, like,
Speaker 2:precise that way. That's a whole another conversation. Yeah. Why why why is the, like, fine motor skill such a hard thing? Feels like, I don't know, babies learn it.
Speaker 2:My three year old understands. Like, why can't machines and robots do that? I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's probably, you know, people are it's just because they don't people smart like you working on these problems. It's probably Exactly.
Speaker 2:I should work on robotics. That's what I'm
Speaker 1:gonna do. In five years, who knows? That might be what you're working on.
Speaker 2:I think we will have robots. I think in our lifetime, we're gonna have, like, walk around robots. Go ahead. You were gonna say something totally unrelated.
Speaker 1:Liz's sister is getting into making jewelry. And she's taking classes and stuff and she's telling me yesterday like, oh, I think this is like a good time to get into that stuff because since everything digital AI is gonna do, it's good to have a job like this. And then then she clarified like, yeah, I'm glad I'm I'm doing a hand job.
Speaker 2:Is she a native English speaker? Was that, like, obvious to her?
Speaker 1:Yeah. She is. It was just it was just so weird she's a true born American. But, you
Speaker 2:know Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sometimes Americans know speak good.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you say things like that and you regret them.
Speaker 1:So, yeah. We're gonna I think we all of us might need to get into hand jobs. Okay. Guys. Okay.
Speaker 1:Now you've taken it too far. You just
Speaker 2:this you just got a little too far. This podcast, I'm gonna have to put the explicit flag on our podcast hosting. Not really. So it will make a comment. Let's talk we should talk.
Speaker 2:We have a podcast. We don't talk about it much. Well, you you all know that. You're listening to it right now. But it's been growing.
Speaker 2:There's more of you that listen to it every week. Feels good. Keep doing that. Keep telling your friends about it
Speaker 1:or whatever, however that's happening. How do you think that's happening, Dax? I think we went from never mentioning it ever to then now sometimes mentioning it, and that has just caused explosive growth. Growth hacking strategy. We should write a book.
Speaker 2:If people if they don't know your thing exists, then they will never listen to it.
Speaker 1:Growth Happiness Podcast twenty twenty three. There you go. Top tips.
Speaker 2:And on that note, I think we went too long on this one. We could've cut or maybe just Chris would cut out the middle.
Speaker 1:Just the
Speaker 2:middle was probably like meh. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:We should probably get off though, so he doesn't have to make any hard choices about interesting things.
Speaker 1:Alright. Well, I'll see you.
Speaker 2:Wait. You were starting to say something.
Speaker 1:No, I wasn't.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. It doesn't look like it. Your face you just said that face, like, one more interesting okay. No.
Speaker 1:No. That's you. So you
Speaker 2:you always at the end I always do that. Throwing in
Speaker 1:the one more one
Speaker 2:more thing. Oh, by the way, here's a big thinker for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. We need say goodbye. Alright. Siri. Seriously.
Speaker 1:Bye. Okay. See you.
