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This time, we have nothing to talk about. We are literally recording a podcast about nothing.
Speaker 2:I feel the fear creeping in in my stomach.
Speaker 1:It really is kinda scary.
Speaker 2:What's going on with you?
Speaker 1:I tell you, I'm going we're going to Florida in a couple weeks. I don't think I told you this.
Speaker 2:Oh, really? Where are you? We're going Saint That's
Speaker 1:where Casey just went for that volleyball thing.
Speaker 2:That's on the West Side Of Florida?
Speaker 1:It's Tampa. Yeah. It's like combined with Tampa. It's like a suburb of Tampa? I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's just like Saint Pete and Tampa all in one spot.
Speaker 2:How long are you going for?
Speaker 1:I feel like six days in a couple weeks. I think we're leaving on the nineteenth.
Speaker 2:You like, what are your plans?
Speaker 1:Like this podcast, we don't have any. We have no plans. Just just gonna be on the beach.
Speaker 2:Maybe maybe me and Lizz will stop by for a day or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, that'd be amazing. Could you guys really? I don't know how far of a drive it is but
Speaker 2:I mean, we don't mind long drives. We gone because we used to do the New York to Florida drives. So we've gotten, like, our good habits for long drives and we kinda look forward to it now. I don't know how far that it can't be too far. Let me let me look it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I like long drives alone. Like, drove when we moved back from Naples, back to the Ozarks, I drove they flew and I drove all their stuff. And I love, like, just listening to it's like a reason to listen to, like, twenty hours of audiobooks. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But to be honest, like with people, not so not so big a fan. It's I don't know.
Speaker 2:By people, do you mean children?
Speaker 1:Literally any other human beings in the car. Anybody. I don't enjoy long drives.
Speaker 2:So me and Liz also do the same thing where we listen to audiobooks and we got really into listening to, like like, the best sci fi short stories. Because the short story will be like two to three hours. Not short story,
Speaker 1:like, you
Speaker 2:know, the the novella or whatever, like the other forms. It'll be like two to three hours. So it's perfect. So two to three hours, you can focus on one thing.
Speaker 1:And you'll just, like, sit beside each other listening you're each listening to the same book or different books?
Speaker 2:No. The same book. It's like going to Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:That makes far more sense. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. Why would you assume we're listening to different books?
Speaker 1:Like, you're sitting next to each other with your own AirPods in listening to different books. I don't know. It just I I had all kinds of questions if that was the case but
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. We're listening to the same book and a lot of these sci fi short stories are like really thrilling and engaging. Like, they're short, so they resolve so it's not like this
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Twenty hour thing but, yeah, something like really suspenseful and we get just really drawn into it and we'll just sit and listen and won't say anything for like two hours. And then we'll be like, woah, that was crazy.
Speaker 1:Is it like an audio Black Mirror kind of thing? Like that type of short stories?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And there's like there's like so George R. R.
Speaker 2:Martin who, who would do all the Game of Thrones stuff, he's got, I think, two really good novellas or novel I forgot what they're called.
Speaker 1:I've literally never heard that word by the way. I'm just Ozark in
Speaker 2:a way over here when
Speaker 1:you say it. I'm like, I bet that's an actual word.
Speaker 2:Well, the way we go about this is we go to the Hugo Awards, which are like, you know, I think I think it's sci fi and fantasy awards and then they have different categories and they have like novel,
Speaker 1:short story,
Speaker 2:novella, novelette. I don't know what they mean but, you know, different lengths I think. Yeah. So he's got one called Sand Kings and it's like this horror slash sci fi thing and it's like a really slow build up, and it's excellent. And that was the first one I listened to and then since then, we've just been really into doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Don't know about horror, but you you you had me up to that point. I think we could do like It's not it's not like
Speaker 2:horror horror. It's just like it's like a light horror. It's like suspenseful, you know, it's like building up to Okay.
Speaker 1:Something. Softcore horror.
Speaker 2:Yeah. If you will. You can't listen to it with your kids in the car, for sure.
Speaker 1:Okay. Well, yeah, we will always have our kids in the car. That's the thing about kids. They always come with you everywhere you go.
Speaker 2:And this is why you were talking about having AirPods and then ignoring the other person.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. It's like having a good time in the front seat by myself.
Speaker 2:You guys are flying, I'm assuming. Right?
Speaker 1:Sorry. We're flying. Yeah. Yeah. It's our first time flying with our three year old.
Speaker 1:So Asa, our eight year old, we flew all over the place. It was when we started Statenius. So we were like, he's been to, like, eight states. Like, before he was two, he had flown, like, a dozen times, and Archer has never been in a plane. So kinda terrified, like, that he's just gonna freak out as we're taking off.
Speaker 1:Like, no. Don't wanna do this. If he knows what we're doing, like, I can't handle thinking about what you're doing in a plane. Like, the fact that you're so high up going so fast just freaks me out if I think about it. I don't know if he'll really comprehend that that's what's happening, so I hope not.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, first time in a plane with him.
Speaker 2:So what were you saying before you said something about Casey?
Speaker 1:Oh, Casey just has this thing where you said, like, you'll go to the awards. She has this thing where she can't she doesn't like things that people like. Like, if if, like, critics, if they get good reviews any movie that gets good reviews, she just totally hates it immediately. Like, she doesn't wanna watch stuff that's critically acclaimed or listen to stuff. And for the longest time, I tried to tell her, you gotta listen to cereal.
Speaker 1:Have you ever listened to podcast cereal?
Speaker 2:I hate I hate that category of content.
Speaker 1:Oh, really? Okay. Well, there you go. Well, why do you hate it? Because I actually like it.
Speaker 1:So now I feel like we have different tastes, but I thought we had similar tastes.
Speaker 2:Wait. So cereal is that thing about it's like one of those crime podcasts.
Speaker 1:It's a crime yeah. She yeah. She's, like, really good at storytelling, though. She just like Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's very engaging. Except she did another one and then I didn't like it. The the Bo Bird song one was like, I don't know. Can't get into it. But, Cyril, I loved.
Speaker 1:Like, loved loved.
Speaker 2:Yeah. People got super into it. Everyone was talking about that. And there's been a bunch of other
Speaker 1:Are you Casey? You don't like it because people got super into it? Is that what you're telling me
Speaker 2:right now? Well, know that is my persona so I can relate to that. Oh, okay. But that's that's actually not that's actually not the reason. Actually, I have my reason for it but it's gonna sound like a moral judgment of people that like it.
Speaker 2:No, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Judge me. Judge me.
Speaker 2:It's not a judgment. It's just like there's a part of me that when certain things are real and also entertainment, there's like a part of me that can't like stop thinking about that and I kinda feel weird that I'm using Oh. This real thing that happens in entertainment. This this happens to so this clicked for me a very long time ago. There was a day when I was like looking through some some app whatever to like figure out what to watch.
Speaker 2:And I remember I was watching something really stupid and then I was like looking for my next piece of entertainment and I was like, this is back when Vice documentaries were like, you know, kind of popular. Yeah. I mean, let me watch this, this looks fun. And it was about some like terrible situation because of course all Vice documentaries are about that. And in my head, I was just kinda like, this is so weird that I was literally just watching, like, something really stupid and I'm just looking to be entertained and now I picked this other thing about these people, like, suffering on the other side of the planet.
Speaker 2:It's kinda like, I think some people have this with meat where they realize like where meat comes from like, think maybe you literally have gone through this and they just can't eat it again. Yeah. It's kind of a similar thing for me with those like crime
Speaker 1:Interesting. Kind
Speaker 2:of things. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling a little a little judged.
Speaker 2:Not too bad though.
Speaker 1:I I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 2:The other side of it is people listen to this stuff and just get so freaked out. Like, Liz is Lochaless' friends listen to this stuff and they just constantly talk about being murdered. Like I
Speaker 1:never had that feeling. I didn't feel more endangered. But I loved it. I the cereal podcast, I thought was so good. I finally got Casey to listen to it, and she loved it too.
Speaker 2:So I
Speaker 1:feel like if you just give it a chance
Speaker 2:No. I'm sure I would like it.
Speaker 1:I definitely about the category. Just the podcast cereal. I need you to listen to that specific podcast and tell me if it's good or not.
Speaker 2:It probably is because everyone loves it. Like, it's definitely good.
Speaker 1:I don't
Speaker 2:I don't automatically hate stuff everyone likes but okay. So going back to the original thing. I like the Hugo Awards because I don't think it's necessarily the typical like, oh, it's Oscar. It's like it won an Oscar type of thing. It feels more like narrow.
Speaker 2:I feel like the people that I don't even know what the process is or how they select winners. I feel like they typically pick stuff that I like. So for me, it's just like a nice place to go to being like, okay, they've already checked all the things.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You found somebody that has your taste,
Speaker 2:like Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 1:A site that just resonates. That makes sense. Yeah. Can we talk about how you and my wife are like the same person and why am I drawn to people that are
Speaker 2:me and me?
Speaker 1:Because that's all I'm thinking about right now is, like, you you guys have so many similarities, and you both also are kind of mean to me. And I feel like I invite it. Do I do I seek out punishment? What is going on?
Speaker 2:Well, list all the things that you find or the top things that you find similar.
Speaker 1:Well, then the one that sticks out is that you're mean to me. Not mean to me, but just like you kinda pick on me. And I'm thinking of other relationships I've had that are similar. But just now, I mean, in this conversation, like similarities with how you view media and how I don't know. I don't have a lot of them.
Speaker 1:Does that make this whole conversation not as fun? Just like I'm I'm noticing a vibe. It's a vibe that you guys have that are similar.
Speaker 2:The pick on you thing is that just me and Casey or is that everyone in your life?
Speaker 1:It's most of my close relationships. It's like I have to have somebody that picks on me. Is it because I don't care? I really don't care when I get picked on. Some people maybe can't handle it.
Speaker 1:Is that it? I invite it because I can handle it?
Speaker 2:Well, this is my relationship with every anyone that I'm close with. So I like filter out anyone that doesn't like that type of relationship. So Okay.
Speaker 1:So you you get something out of being able to like poke at people?
Speaker 2:It's just the way that I I don't know. Okay. It's the thing I said the other day. It's
Speaker 1:The East Coast thing?
Speaker 2:No. It's interest well, that also. But it's also the intrusive thought thing where I feel like I'm always just having all these, like, really weird intrusive thoughts of, that would be crazy if I said that out loud. And then what people I'm comfortable with, I can like do that to some degree. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's what feels fun about it. And it's also funny to me that I did say it out loud, you know. Yeah. It's funny. But that's where it comes from.
Speaker 2:And the other side, I think all wives pick on their husbands.
Speaker 1:Okay. Is Liz that way with you?
Speaker 2:Now I'm thinking Does she not
Speaker 1:pick on you? Oh, no. You literally had two data points to work with on this phone call and it's 50%. You just said all. She doesn't pick on you.
Speaker 1:You pick on her?
Speaker 2:Less than I do with everyone else, but yes, to some degree.
Speaker 1:Wait. Why do you pick on her less? Let's go let's pick at this. I'm gonna I'm this is therapy right now. Does she have the power in your relationship?
Speaker 1:Do you feel like
Speaker 2:Nice Are you worried of? No. She has a lot of power in a relationship for sure. But I think it's more that
Speaker 1:So does Casey, by the way.
Speaker 2:Always. I mean, we all know that.
Speaker 1:Okay. Can I just have something? Okay. Keep going.
Speaker 2:You should ask her. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I think that there with your wife, there's like another dimension of romance.
Speaker 2:And I do think Mhmm. You can't just do the picking thing because I like I think it's innately incompatible with the romance side. So it's like, needs to be a little bit more balanced. Whereas, I can just pick on you a 100% of time because I'm not try I'm not trying to be romantic with you.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah. Okay. I don't think I'm romantic. I don't think I have that emotion I don't have something about it.
Speaker 1:Can I say that? Do I sound like a jerk?
Speaker 2:Okay. But, like, go back to the beginning. I know this is a long time ago because you guys met in high school. Right?
Speaker 1:No. This story is just gonna get worse. But go ahead.
Speaker 2:Okay. But I am curious, like, you different then or like
Speaker 1:No. I've never had I I honestly I always thought I would just never marry because I wasn't that, like, into relationships. I've had very few in my life. And even, like, when Casey and I started dating, I was very into her. But I'm just I feel like I'm not I always said I'm not a romantic, but my brother is super romantic.
Speaker 1:Like, he's, like, does all the things and it's just, like, amazing gestures to every girlfriend he's ever had. He's had a 100. And that's not like a bad that's not like a negative thing. Sorry. That's that's not like a like a slight.
Speaker 1:It's like he's very like, gets invested and has really great, like, sparks with people.
Speaker 2:I've
Speaker 1:just never had any of that. And that's where I feel like sometimes I'm a robot. Right? Like, it's just my lack of emotional depth. Like, I do nice things for Casey.
Speaker 1:But even when I do nice things, I don't feel like they're romantic. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, I'm not a big gestures person. I think that's like that's a common and I think obvious way to, like, express that. But I don't think that's me either. I definitely am I would say I probably am a romantic person but more that it just stems from me also being a dramatic person, I think.
Speaker 2:Ah. I like I just like seeing everything in life in this, like, dramatized way. You know, like, when I think about my work and like I'm working on a business and it's like, I have a very dramatic view of it. It's like, we're doing this like crazy thing and there's always people trying to stop us and like we have enemies and we have friends and we have, you know, all these like crazy situations. I just view things in that way because I like Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's just it's just what naturally I do. I think I express that also in our relationship and I can be like dramatic about it. Not in like a melodramatic way, just like I like to be intense and kind of express it in like the most like movie like way possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm definitely dramatic. I'm learning that about myself. So I guess we're both we're both into that. And we both stream on Twitch, so there's that stuff to tell.
Speaker 2:I think I think the word I I wanna like reclaim the word dramatic because I feel like I've also recently discovered this is I think I just said about myself, I've also recently discovered it's only you know, once me and Liz got together, she pointed this out and I was like, oh, you know what? I never thought of myself as a dramatic person because I always thought like, eye roll dramatic, you know, whenever I thought Yeah yeah yeah. The word It's
Speaker 1:got a negative connotation to it for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But she pointed out that, okay, it's not just that, it's also just like having a level of intensity about things and I like that description of it and I like that part of it. So yeah, I think it's it's cool to be dramatic. I think we should talk about being like liking drama because we all do. A lot of us do.
Speaker 2:All do.
Speaker 1:I mean, especially like that's the only reason I'm on Twitter for sure.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:If there's not drama, it's just it's why why even get on there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like like the fate Seeing the drama is great, then pretending to be like, oh, you know, drama, like, you know, I hate when it's dramatic. Why can't we all get a lot like that whole thing we all get to do. And then right after we say that, then we just start to like go deeper into the drama.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That in itself is part of the drama. Yeah. It's like being tired of
Speaker 2:the drama. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? I'm serious. Do you?
Speaker 2:There was I have phases in my life where that was a big part of my life. So When
Speaker 1:you were younger but not now? Like, you would say they're childlike?
Speaker 2:No. No. No. Weirdly, I didn't really have them when I was a child because I didn't like peanut butter as a child because I felt like it made my mouth too dry.
Speaker 1:Okay. That makes I mean, I get it. Nobody really likes peanut butter in their mouth, but it's I love to do the peanut butter in the mouth and then have, like, a glass of something. I'm gonna say milk and you're gonna make fun of me because everyone makes fun of me when I say I drink milk. No.
Speaker 1:Drink milk all the time. Okay. Thank you. Why is everybody, like, adult men drinking milk? What?
Speaker 1:My wife makes fun of me every single time I have a glass of milk. Oh, I don't understand it.
Speaker 2:This was early on. I think the first time we came to Miami with Liz. We went to like her favorite coffee shop and it's like this really like fancy like not fancy but it's a very like hip place. And I ordered a cup of milk and she was just like
Speaker 1:Okay. That's kind of funny to me.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It is funny.
Speaker 1:Just wouldn't do it in public probably because I know people are judging me.
Speaker 2:It's just I just love milk. It's just like
Speaker 1:It refer it's just like washes stuff down. It's just that it's really good.
Speaker 2:And it come milk and peanut butter, I actually would do a lot as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I put peanut butter like on my waffles, my pancakes, and then with milk. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's great. I'll just it's a great drink.
Speaker 1:I think But back to the peanut and jelly thing. You don't think that's a childish food? Like to eat peanut butter and jelly is fine as an adult?
Speaker 2:No. It's
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm just not the right person to ask. I like
Speaker 1:We have this in common?
Speaker 2:I think a lot of things I do maybe are childish. Okay. Me too. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I love kid foods like mac and cheese and peanut butter and jellies.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's something mean, I just mix it in. Why not? It's a I mean, I used eat a lot of PB and Js when I was maybe a couple years ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. PB and J. Sorry. I've been saying it like a buffoon, just spelling out the whole word. Peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1:I gotta save so much time. PB and J. When you make a PB and J, do you do you spread the peanut butter on one piece of bread and then put the jelly on top of it, or do you put the jelly on the other piece of bread and then put them together?
Speaker 2:No. I put it on another piece of bread. Do you mix it on the same slice?
Speaker 1:I put yeah. I put the peanut butter on, and then I just pour some jelly on top, and I kinda move it around with the other piece of bread. Does that make sense? Spread it around?
Speaker 2:I get okay. First, I was gonna say that's ridiculous, but now that I'm imagining
Speaker 1:It's actually better.
Speaker 2:It just depends on the if it's jelly or jam. Because jam, you have to spread because it's thicker.
Speaker 1:Wait, what? Jelly and jam aren't the same thing?
Speaker 2:So you're talking about something you pour out of a jar. Yeah. But can you imagine something thicker that you can't pour out of a jar? Have you ever had something that isn't as viscous?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Not as viscous. Wait. What which one's which then? So which one is the one you can't pour?
Speaker 1:I I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:I think jam is thicker and I think I prefer jam.
Speaker 1:You have to take a knife to it and it clumps. It's like chunks of it
Speaker 2:come out. Well, I don't know about chunks. I I'm imagining smooth but
Speaker 1:Like jello. Like jello.
Speaker 2:Not like jello.
Speaker 1:No. It's like jello. The other one is like jello consistency.
Speaker 2:I don't I don't know. I'm I'm just saying there's there's some okay. So what what what kind of what's your is it like a brand you go to? Is it local? Is it like
Speaker 1:It's in our health food store. So it's like what's it called? Crafters?
Speaker 2:Crafters.
Speaker 1:It's like yeah. It's not it doesn't have any weird stuff in it. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's nice.
Speaker 1:Doesn't have. Yeah. You know, we like to keep all the the weird stuff out of our bodies. But I can pour it.
Speaker 2:You can pour Yeah. No. I know what you're talking about. It's just that the usually the thing I the jam that I get, jam, jelly, whatever is I can't pour it. So I spread it on the other side and I Okay.
Speaker 2:Slap it together.
Speaker 1:Do you do but then do you have to use, like, two knives?
Speaker 2:No. I wash I wash I do the jelly first and then I it's like it's like a quick wash because jelly comes off and then peanut butter. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, jelly first. Interesting. Sorry. I'll I'll stop. Can stop talking about PB and J.
Speaker 2:Well, we always talked about talking about your relationship with food and like how you guys do food. Do you wanna talk about that?
Speaker 1:Oh, did we talk already about how you're wrong when you do keto? Did we already have that conversation? No. Or is that all we've never done it.
Speaker 2:We've never done it and we've talked about how you're you're you're gonna lose if you don't have your wife with you. So
Speaker 1:That's true. I don't yeah. I literally don't have any opinions. I just I regurgitate everything I hear from my wife. And then I usually mess up a fact and the whole
Speaker 2:case And she gets mad at you because you represented it wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh. Yeah. So we can't have that conversation, but we can talk about food. I'm doing a thing now. It's Adam Wathen tweeted about it.
Speaker 1:It's called My Body Tutor. It's like us a food psychology kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I can eat a ton and not put on weight just like my genetics. My grandpa was the way. He was always thin. Yeah. I think, like, I'm internally putting on weight or something, like, on my organs.
Speaker 1:I just know it's not good for me when I just eat the way I wanna eat. I I have this weird thing with food. I just feel like I most of the reasons I eat are not because I'm hungry. It's like, my kids love food, I don't wanna throw it away. Why don't I wanna throw it away?
Speaker 1:I should just throw it away. I'm doing this thing and I have to tell them what I eat every day. And they, like, give me all these encouraging messages. It's nice.
Speaker 2:Encouraging messages. Like, well, what if you what if you did bad? What if you ate too much?
Speaker 1:So far, haven't done bad. Because the thing is when you have to take pictures of everything you eat and send them to somebody, you think about what
Speaker 2:you eat. That that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Eventually, it'll probably wear off. I'm like two weeks in.
Speaker 2:If it wears off, then you can sign up for my program where I berate you every time. Yes.
Speaker 1:You would. So I just send you pictures. I just text you every single
Speaker 2:thing I eat, and you'll
Speaker 1:just make fun
Speaker 2:of me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That that'd be free. We could just do that for free. You can't stop me from texting you.
Speaker 2:I I would pay you to do that
Speaker 1:Oh, really?
Speaker 2:For me to be able to do that?
Speaker 1:Just for content or something? Are you gonna put it on the Internet or something?
Speaker 2:No. Just for personal enjoyment. Just to be able to roast you in yet another way.
Speaker 1:Such a sadist. That's I say my wife is a sadist, I swear. Like, just gets so much out of, like, poking me. I feel like you're the same.
Speaker 2:Wait. Isn't sadist when you enjoy no. It's a masochist.
Speaker 1:Okay. Other people's pain.
Speaker 2:Okay. It is other people's pain. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. You're like, yeah. I do love that. I love other people's pain.
Speaker 2:I do I do I do love that. Yeah. The thing with eating, this is this is funny, this this is this came up with us too recently. My family also is kind of very naturally skinny and I I will like easily forget to eat. Like I'll like easily forget to I I think my I'm more likely to under eat than overeat.
Speaker 2:I've been this way since I was a kid because I would get really bored of eating. Like I would be halfway into a meal and would just get really bored of the physical act of eating. Sometimes, I actually find certain foods tiring to eat. Like if I'm gonna eat a sandwich and it's like kind of falling apart, that's gonna result in me like not eating the whole sandwich. So sometimes I've just
Speaker 1:just I know what you're saying there. Yeah. I don't like when my food is hard to eat. Like when it's either the sandwich is so big, you can't even get your mouth around it and you're squeezing stuff out.
Speaker 2:I hate that.
Speaker 1:Like, I'd rather just eat it in a bowl. Just like give me a bowl or
Speaker 2:a Exactly. My, my favorite food is soup and I think
Speaker 1:Oh, nice.
Speaker 2:I just like very the various soups that are out there and I think it's because of this reason.
Speaker 1:I just I could eat soup forever and never be full though.
Speaker 2:That's a problem for me.
Speaker 1:No. Like, could literally sit there at the table and you could just keep serving me soup and I feel like I'd never get full. I'm pretty big though. I'm a large adult man. I'm
Speaker 2:I'm not so big.
Speaker 1:You're not you're not small.
Speaker 2:You're just I'm like exactly average for America. Height. Maybe not weight. I meant people above
Speaker 1:average for to be an exactly average American.
Speaker 2:It's the only place where I'm average.
Speaker 1:In every possible
Speaker 2:possible way. Way. I so my so Liz was talking to my mom and my mom has had this thing her whole life because she's always been really skinny and she's actually this is just gonna annoy everyone and this is the con Yeah. This is the consequence. She's been really skinny and she's always had to work hard to get to a weight that she wants to be, to like gain weight, right?
Speaker 1:Like up.
Speaker 2:Yeah. She has to go up. And she was complaining to Liz being like, you know, all my friends, they always make fun of me being like, you're so skinny and I have to just like sit there and take it because I can't be like, well, you're really fat, you know. Can't go the other way, yeah. She was complaining about how like, it's like, it's just as hard for me, you know, like, she's like, it's it's it's hard for me also.
Speaker 2:Like, it's not it's not easy. And then those are just like, none of this matters. Like, you just literally can never say anything. Like, it's just I know it's unfair, but that just this is the way way things are.
Speaker 1:I thought about it even while you were saying it. Like, forget to eat, how tough. That's that's difficult.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people hate it. For you. I feel bad hate for it. Yeah. I I definitely seen myself as I've gotten a little bit older.
Speaker 2:I definitely have gained more weight. Still like weight, like none it's not a problem at all but Yeah. It happens even for people that are naturally skinny. Like, you just get to a certain age and you're retaining weight a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I put it in my face which sucks because it's the first thing anybody sees. Like, I carry weight in my face. I swear that's the first place it goes. It's really annoying.
Speaker 2:I mean, that that's very common. And also
Speaker 1:Oh, really?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And also, you're on most people you know are on Twitch, so the only thing we see is your face.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. Most people on the internet will only ever see my face and they're like, that guy.
Speaker 2:Unless you start posting on other sites on some other specific sites.
Speaker 1:What are you what are you implying? X stacks? I can't
Speaker 2:make these jokes with you because I feel like you just don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1:I've heard enough of the the OnlyFans stuff.
Speaker 2:I definitely get that joke. That's funny.
Speaker 1:I definitely didn't know. I think Twitch taught me what it was. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Well, I live in the OnlyFans capital so
Speaker 1:Oh, Miami. Yeah. That would be. That would be a big yeah. I mean, just like it's like LA in that like everything's very like appearance driven.
Speaker 1:Right? Miami's that way?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, we have, we have this concept here called OnlyFans towers. And there's like this category of like brand new luxury like luxury ish buildings that have popped up. And people call them OnlyFans towers because everyone that lives in them makes their money from OnlyFans.
Speaker 1:Really? How does everyone know?
Speaker 2:It's a joke but it's also kind it's also kind of real. You can just kind of tell like, there's like a vibe and an aesthetic to
Speaker 1:it. Interesting. Yeah. I would like you just to describe that aesthetic for me, please.
Speaker 2:No. I'm gonna get in trouble if I do that.
Speaker 1:Pictures. Okay.
Speaker 2:Or not. You can go to onlyfans.com and then you can do your own research.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. That's
Speaker 2:it's funny. So how's it going with your house construction stuff? What's like the current projects?
Speaker 1:You know, we're we're getting close to being, like, settled, I feel like, two years in. Mhmm. We are gonna do, like, the backyard. So the back right now is just, like, there's so much mulch because we were gonna plant a bunch of stuff and then we didn't plant a bunch of stuff. We well, we planted a bunch of stuff in the front, not in the back.
Speaker 1:This is so boring. This is so, like, suburban America. Like, why why would you ask me
Speaker 2:this question? Okay. For people, our if our audience is people in our age range, this is, the most fascinating thing on the planet. So Okay.
Speaker 1:That's true. So we're gonna do, like, an in ground hot tub. We thought we'd do a pool, but we have a pool in our neighborhood, and we think we're just gonna do a hot tub. All we really care is to have a hot tub.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Our sauna comes. It's shipped. It'll be here in a couple weeks.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:We're gonna, like, stain our back deck because it has, a bunch of clay stains because Missouri is just, all clay. So we're gonna stain it and then put the sauna in and do a hot tub, do some, like, terraces and a fire pit. We're just gonna make the back, like, as nice as the rest of it. The front is nice. We've done a lot, landscaping and everything else.
Speaker 1:I haven't done much in the back. So that's kind of the next project. I don't know.
Speaker 2:So I had a hot tub growing up, but it annoyingly, ours was closed in the winter. But are yours gonna be, like, a year round hot tub?
Speaker 1:Oh, really? Oh, we want it year round. That's the best time. It's like snowing out.
Speaker 2:I was just attached to our pool. So when they closed the pool, they just, kinda cover the hot tub Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're have it year round?
Speaker 1:That's the goal. Yeah. I think that they can do that. They just said the the equipment has to be in a, like, a heated space. So I don't know how we're
Speaker 2:gonna do that.
Speaker 1:I might lose some of my office closet, actually. They might have to put it in there. Mhmm. Which kinda sucks.
Speaker 2:Is a is a sauna something you've done before? Is it something new you're trying to get into?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Every time I travel okay. So this I've I've told this story before and everyone, like, made fun of me. I just I'm not very relatable, I guess. Anyway, whenever I travel, my cofounder and I will always find like, if we're whatever city we're in, we'll go to an Equinox because he's, like, an Equinox member or whatever.
Speaker 1:I guess you have to be a member. I don't know. I've never had to pay to go to an Equinox. I don't know what the rules are. I think it's expensive and that's why people made fun of me.
Speaker 2:I mean, I I was we had Equinox when we were in New York, and it was convenient because when we visit to visit Miami, we could just go. Yeah. So it is nice if you're, like,
Speaker 1:a traveling Yeah. Like, every every city we're in, we find an Equinox and we do the steam room. It's so hot. Like, it burns inside your nostrils. Like, you can't feel anything but pain.
Speaker 1:And and you're in there for, like, ten minutes and then you get in a cold shower, and you just do that back to back.
Speaker 2:Actually had a steam room and a sauna, actually. We had both in the
Speaker 1:Oh, I guess they're different things. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I've I've I've done this steam room a bunch. Actually, and Alan used to do this steam room together a bunch and we'd in there and we'd sweat. And he was Yeah.
Speaker 2:He he's a big steam room person, steam room slash sauna person. I would just start dying, like, very quickly after I gotta get out of here. I can't breathe. But I've never done the sauna. So have you done both?
Speaker 1:I guess, no. I guess I always do steam rooms. So I don't even know what the sauna's gonna feel like. I just know it's hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's I think I think it's pretty different because it's all dry. Right?
Speaker 1:Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2:I think saunas are supposed to be better, I'm assuming.
Speaker 1:I they they say it's good for your health. I don't understand how it's good because we got an infrared one, which I wanted to get like a traditional one just because it's don't know. The infrared thing weirded me out. But everybody says It's like
Speaker 2:they shoot a laser onto you
Speaker 1:and heat
Speaker 2:you up from the inside.
Speaker 1:It's heats you
Speaker 2:up from
Speaker 1:the inside like a microwave. I don't understand how that's healthy. How do they know have they actually studied anybody long enough to know that that's good for you? Because to me, heating up my insides sounds like a terrible thing to do. It just sounds like cancer.
Speaker 2:Wait. Does it actually heat up your insides or does it heat up your skin?
Speaker 1:No. It actually heats you up from the inside out. That's what I've heard. And that's supposed to be the reason it's good, which doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2:That's really crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I feel like there's not been enough studies done. I'm gonna die of like liver cancer or something because I heated up my liver too many times.
Speaker 2:Yeah. All your healthy eating all your healthy eating is just gonna be countered by
Speaker 1:Put nothing.
Speaker 2:Lasering yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 2:That does seem a little weird. The other thing that's really cool and I think you maybe are the person to get this because I feel like you have this space and you will just go above and beyond. Have you seen those things that like freeze you? I'm sure you have because you tell the sports people do it.
Speaker 1:So I I haven't seen a thing. I know like Wim Hof, the ice man, like, gets in ice baths every day and it's supposed to be so good for you. I don't know. I wanna have, a plunge, a way we can, like, submerse ourselves in ice water.
Speaker 2:The thing I'm talking about though, it's like maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but actually my the gym in, like, my parents town actually has one. It's like you step into this thing and it's almost like a mold of like a person and you like get in the mold and they like close it on you and it just like hyper like freezes your think I I think they use like liquid nitrogen, forgot what it is but they like instantly make Oh
Speaker 1:my word.
Speaker 2:You crazy cold for a short amount of time and you get out of it. And it's supposed to be really great for inflammation and stuff. I think a bunch of like pro athletes do that now.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. So I've heard of this.
Speaker 2:And the Cryotherapy. That's what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They Cryotherapy. And they've got, like, hyperbolic chambers and all this stuff. Yeah. It turns out that just, like, existing in our normal atmosphere is terrible for you. You need to either be heated from the inside or frozen.
Speaker 1:But this temperature, not good. It's like this is what decays us. It's so weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, I felt that way about when I lived in New York. I just felt like my genetics were not suited for the climate and I would feel like my bones hurt. And then my friend who he's from Chicago but like historic like his family is from like Scandinavia.
Speaker 1:He just never had a problem
Speaker 2:with the cold ever. And I was like, I think there's some things to your genetic They just adapt.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. People up north like in Wisconsin even
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Northern Michigan, like those people, it's like they come to the Ozarks. We I mean, we I know people that it's like they're in shorts and it's the middle of the winter. It's like no big deal to them. I don't understand how that's possible, how your body can adapt to that cold. Cold just hurts.
Speaker 1:It just hurts. I really have to pee. Like, I'm bouncing. Oh, so I this cannot be on the podcast, Chris. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:It can be. I'm just saying it could be cut out if you want. But I had caffeine this morning. It listen to this. This it's like a protein shake in a bottle, but it's a coffee flavored one.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And it's like, you're supposed to drink the whole thing. It's one serving. And I had it while I was working out. And I knew it had caffeine, I didn't know how much. Hundred and sixty eight grams of of or milligrams of caffeine.
Speaker 1:That's a that's a ton. Right?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know how much that is. How many cups of
Speaker 1:coffee do you It's like two cups of coffee. They put two cups of coffee in a protein shake. I don't understand why. They had to go out of their way to give me that much caffeine.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a workout shake then. Right? Isn't that what You you don't
Speaker 1:I'll be back. I gotta go. Okay. Okay. Bye, Dax.
Speaker 2:Alright. See you.
Speaker 1:You see how I have the power there? I get to end it when I wanna end it. This is my podcast, Dax. You're just here. You're the other guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. You're you're right, Adam. That's definitely what's going on.
Speaker 1:Don't do that. You you gotta I just
Speaker 2:took it
Speaker 1:right back. Feel like a jerk. I just took it right back. Okay. I'm really gonna end it.
