Humanoid Robots, Flying a Drone, and Programmers Rapping
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dax:Give me exact I'm I'm finishing up a tweet.
Adam:No. You're good. Always time for tweets. I'm gonna read your tweet right as you tweet it.
dax:Okay. I can't figure this one out. Let's just start.
Adam:Okay.
dax:I need to let it and let it sit a little bit
Adam:more. Let that tweet simmer. Well, now I'm doing what a what a false start.
dax:Now, are you writing a tweet?
Adam:I'm not writing a tweet. I'm writing a Claude prompt. One second. We're abandoning both both things. It's fine.
Adam:Claude isn't running while we're talking, and it's okay. I'm fine. I've moved on. I've coped. I haven't.
Adam:It's gonna bother me, the entire podcast. It's good that these prompts are running for ten minutes. It's okay.
dax:Man, I am Right now, I'm eating this keto protein brownie. And it is so good, like, I'm like, how is this not
Adam:How is it not non keto?
dax:Yeah. Like, I
Adam:just I don't I forgot what keto is. Hang on. Let's break this down. What would it not have if it's keto?
dax:It wouldn't have many carbs. So it wouldn't be sweetened with sugar. So it's definitely sweet and there's like chocolate chunks in it that are sweet, but it must be like a monk fruit thing, but usually Yeah. I can still taste the difference. Like, it still tastes a little off, but They've this gotten really good at this.
dax:Good. Yeah. It's crazy.
Adam:They've really good at the artificial sweetener stuff. I've noticed this. And also gotten really good at the non grain stuff, like chickpea flour and all these other like alt alt flours that aren't wheat based.
dax:Yeah. Yeah.
Adam:Yeah. The the food science is improving.
dax:This just looks like a brownie.
Adam:I mean,
dax:I'm not gonna say it's the best brownie I've ever had, but I'm like really liking it and it's a giant brownie. It says keto protein brownies. Don't even like, I wonder what the protein is.
Adam:Protein everything's protein now. We have protein oats. We just got protein oats. Like, they're they're somehow modifying the oats to have more protein or they're like breeding them to have more protein. It's not like it has protein powder in it.
Adam:It's just oats, but they have more protein.
dax:Okay. So I I started using a meal plan, like I've been getting food delivered, three times a week. Mhmm. And
Adam:Is it like a mail one or like a local
dax:No. Found someone local found something local.
Adam:Yeah. I mean,
dax:it's still like roughly the same as something large scale as Factor, but because it's local, it's like, I imagine, better.
Adam:Yeah. They taste better. We had one when we were in Florida, like in Naples, Florida.
dax:I I'm surprised by I would say 80% of the meals. I'm like, this is really good and I'm like really enjoying it and I'm eating it really fast because I I'm actually enjoying it.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:Which is surprising because I like I've tried this type of thing in the past and it's always just been like the worst stuff. So I think I guess, because it's local or maybe they just got better at figuring out what foods, like what recipes work. Yeah. But anyway, I got so I'm because I'm on a keto version, I got keto sloppy joes.
Adam:So a sloppy joes is usually
dax:like a sandwich with like ground meat inside, I guess.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:But, obviously, you can't have the bread with keto, so that there was like there was something. It looked like bread and it called they called it like protein something. And I taste them, this is really good but I swear this is meat. Like, I I think the bread was just also meat. I couldn't really tell it It was delicious with everything together.
dax:Like, when you eat everything together, it it was it was it was great. But I'm like, what could this be? Like, this tastes like more like different ground meat, you know?
Adam:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dax:Yeah. And so, anyway, I've been enjoying it. They they do so I get two meals a day plus a snack and this is the keto brownie as a snack for today and yeah, it's a big brownie and I'm I'm really happy with it.
Adam:So it's like a homemade. It's like made by it's not a package thing that you found
dax:at the store. Yeah.
Adam:Yeah. Nice.
dax:It's like they yeah. Yeah. It's great.
Adam:Yeah. No. We've I guess we've done it in Missouri too. We had a chef up here for a few months. It's so nice to, like, give them you give them your parameters, like, here's the things how we wanna eat.
Adam:And then, like, the variety, the way they come up with stuff and bring you stuff you would have never made yourself, it makes for it's like the 80% thing you said. Like, 80% of the time, it was like, oh, this is good. So I would have never thought to ask for this. Then there's like the 20% where, like, it's a miss because, like, they're trying things, they're doing out their stuff. And it's like, meh.
Adam:But overall, I think it's pretty great.
dax:Worth it. Yeah. I think what these people are missing is a feedback loop because they have no idea which ones were massive hits and which ones were whatever. I think
Adam:that would
dax:be cool if they did that. I don't know how much that would change what they do, but, yeah, it's been it's been really good and it's not crazy expensive either. The chef one you guys did, so how would they like how often would they drop the food off? It was Or you would pick it up?
Adam:No. So this was a we were her only client she has a restaurant. We were her only like personal client where and she did this for us years ago, and then when we moved back to Missouri, she started doing it again. We kinda like know her. She would meet us every day at our kid's school.
Adam:So it's, like, halfway between her restaurant and our house. So every day, we have to go pick up our kid from school. She'd be in the parking lot with our meal. So we got them daily, which seemed really inefficient to me. Like, I would think they'd wanna do, like, multiple days in a row, But it was nice to get a fresh meal.
Adam:Like, there were literally warm meals that we're taking home every day for dinner. Didn't even have to, reheat them or whatever.
dax:Oh, was it just for dinner?
Adam:Yeah. We were just doing dinners.
dax:Yeah. Oh, just in okay. So it was, like, fresh.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah. It was great.
dax:Nice. Nice. You don't have to heat it or
Adam:anything like We always had leftover stuff, so we'd often have like lunch the next day just from leftovers. But yeah, it was she wasn't doing like breakfast and stuff.
dax:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My my whole thing was like, I had a tweet the other day being like, we we gotta improve microwave, like, I don't want a hot ass tomato. And I don't think people understood what I meant by that but
Adam:I didn't see the tweet.
dax:It's like Let's say you get like Thai fried rice or something. I'm trying to think about something with like like a tomato in it. Usually, the rice is hot and the tomato is normal temperature
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:Or like even cold. When you're eating it, it's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah. When you reheat it, everything's hot, including the tomato. And I'm just like, this is not this is not right.
dax:Uh-huh. But I think with these meals, I guess it's over the years they've gotten good at this. They they like are just giving me stuff that it's meant to all be the same roughly the same temperature. So when I reheat it, it's actually actually pretty good. Like you like like the obvious thing is like imagine like a chili, right?
dax:Like a chili is great. You just reheat it and it's
Adam:Yeah.
dax:It's like stuff like that where they know that even reheated it'll it'll be fine. So yeah, I I thought it would be like I I I did it because I was like, let me try it. I'm probably just gonna like not enjoy it, but, you know, it's like a very practical thing. But now I I enjoy it. Not as good as my two steaks every day, but, you know, pretty close.
Adam:They gotta make compromises at some point. Making two steaks a day sounds like a lot of work. I guess you probably batched them, but No.
dax:Didn't. I just got so good at it.
Adam:Made them
dax:every day. Yeah. Yeah. It took me ten minutes.
Adam:Wow. To make a steak. Okay. I mean, we could rehash, go back to those old episodes, and I could relearn how you do that. Yeah.
Adam:I I used to have a steam oven in the first house we built. It was the best for reheating stuff. It like, compared to a microwave, I mean, it wasn't as fast as a microwave, but, like, you know how when you reheat, like, potatoes or something, they're just never as good? Yeah. It's just like stuff that just will never be as good reheat in a microwave.
Adam:Steam oven, it was like everything was brand new again. Just a little random fact.
dax:Yeah. We've got there's like a few things. So we have our toaster oven. I I I would be surprised if you you didn't own this or you haven't come across this. It's it's called Belmuda, the toaster.
dax:It's it's like that's the name of it, the toaster. Yeah. Something like that.
Adam:I have not heard of this.
dax:And it has like a little slot at the top to put like a little thing of water in it.
Adam:Mhmm. Mhmm.
dax:So when you're toasting bread or something, it'll
Adam:Bring it back to
dax:steams it as well. Yeah. That's good. I broke my microwave a month ago and I got a new one that also has an air fryer in it, which I'd never used before and that's been really good too because I Like air frying is another way where you can just like Yeah. Great.
dax:It's like a great way to reheat.
Adam:It's impossible to have too many kitchen counters. Like
dax:Yeah, I know. We
Adam:constantly fill our counter space and we're like, we're running out of room, we have this other appliance we need.
dax:There's just new inventions all the time. New innovations. New innovations in kitchen technology.
Adam:Do you like hate how much time food takes up in your life? Like between making it, thinking about what you want to have, eating it, cleaning up, whatever.
dax:I don't have kids, so I don't think it's taking up
Adam:a lot of time. Okay. Well
dax:So I'm okay with it. But yeah, I imagine that it's like
Adam:With kids. A lot
dax:of your focus.
Adam:Because they don't even eat like the same times. Like, they they eat like twice as many meals. So it's like between every meal, we're also making them a meal. It's just there's a never ending stream of like clean up and prepare and clean up and prepare. Just feels like our whole life is dominated by going to the grocery store, getting groceries.
Adam:I mean, like, we've done the Instacart thing,
dax:but The whole the whole cleanup is the worst part because like and this is the thing like when I when I would cook a lot, I like really optimize for just reusing like a single like, my ideal thing is I only have one thing to clean up at the end because I like use it for everything like Yeah. Like it's a it's like a single fork that I use while cooking and also while eating, like,
Adam:you know.
dax:Mhmm. Yeah. Because like if you make something really good, usually ends up using like five or six things that you know Yeah. To wash. Yeah.
Adam:Yeah. Who's solving this? I I saw a tweet the other day. It was like it was like some like, diagram or not not diagram. Like, a photo of the front of all these humanoid robots.
Adam:There's, like, 12 of them, all the different companies and what country they're from Mhmm. And, like, how much it weighs and how strong it is. I don't know. There's all these facts about all these humanoid robots. And they all basically look like humans.
Adam:Where are these things? Can people buy them? Are they still just like in the lab? Does anyone own a humanoid robot that like does stuff for them?
dax:I think Kim Kardashian does. I keep seeing Really? Post pictures of it. I don't think it does anything yet. Okay.
dax:I don't think these things do anything really.
Adam:Are they ever going to? Could we have a robot that does all these things like make our food and clean up after us?
dax:I I guess so. Like, why not? Because it's just like like a mech like it's a machinery. Like, we're not doing anything that complicated in terms of cooking.
Adam:Yeah. Do I even want this?
dax:I don't even know. Like, for
Adam:me I definitely want it, so I don't care. If you don't want it, don't listen to Dax. We still need to make them. Well, I mean, there it seems like there's an influx of companies or a lot more attention on humanoid robots the last, like, eighteen months. Is what does that have to do does that do with AI?
Adam:I feel like it happened at the same time. It's like the resurgence of all this AI progress.
dax:It definitely has to do with AI as well. I think there's, like, renewed investment in anything AI adjacent, so there's a lot of cheap capital. So all these companies raise money and they're doing stuff but I don't know, like it just so much has a stink of all flash, no substance.
Adam:Yeah. Like, call us for a demo energy.
dax:Yeah. Or just like really showing off stuff that seems like it's flashy but doesn't actually make sense. So one of them, maybe it was Figure, I forgot who it was. They put together like this crazy slick video about how they manufacture like the heads or something of these robots and it's like so optimized and so like beautiful at the manufacturing process and I'm just like, why does it look that good already? Like, it shouldn't.
dax:They're super early, like, why is that part of their system, like, so developed? So I I just see these, like, weird red flags where I'm just like, I don't know if these are these are real companies. Maybe some maybe there is one that'll like build something cool, but Yeah. I don't know. Like, what do I actually I don't know.
dax:I don't think I want them to cook.
Adam:Really? I
dax:want them to cook.
Adam:I would love for them to cook or mostly clean up. I wouldn't mind to do the cooking if they cleaned up.
dax:Clean up is good. I see that. I see the cleanup.
Adam:The laundry. I just got a ton of Cleaning the house, it takes us forever. It takes me like two hours to do all our floors, like vacuum and mop. It it's like that kind of stuff, it'd be huge.
dax:But like, can't you get it? Isn't there aren't there already robots that do that?
Adam:No. They're not good. The little like Roomba style robots, they they just don't do as good a job.
dax:Okay. So I guess what I'm saying is let's say you have a acute problem like mopping your floors.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:Can you make can someone make the Roomba Thing two x better? Is that more likely or is like Mhmm. A robot that can mop?
Adam:Know? I guess.
dax:More likely? I don't I I actually don't know.
Adam:I mean, the promise of a humanoid robot is that it could do everything. Like, it could just you charge it up at night and then it does all the stuff during the day. It's like multipurpose. You don't have all these little specialty robots.
dax:Yeah. No. I I get that, but I just wonder if that's actually how
Adam:If it's gonna happen.
dax:If that's how it'll play out.
Adam:I we've got we've done a ton of different Roombas, different generations. Not actually Roomba company, like,
dax:Robo War. We go with whatever
Adam:yeah. Whatever the best one is at the time. We've never actually tried this with the the jet ones, like the mopping ones. I I don't know. I just don't I don't believe in it.
Adam:I I just feel like it's not gonna work that well, but maybe they do. We've had cleaners in the past. I think, like, we've had an issue where our five year old doesn't want anyone in the home, so that's kind of killed that. It's just like this huge amount of chores that I'm dreaming of robots taking over.
dax:I see. What if he doesn't like robots either?
Adam:He probably wouldn't. Yeah. If he doesn't like people, he probably wouldn't like cold lifeless robots walking around the house. That's a good point. He'll get older and we can just probably hire cleaners again and then for like $200 a month, we solve our problem and don't have to buy a robot.
Adam:Yeah. Right. This is a
dax:thing I always point situation is a little different but, man, like you There's so many cases where human labor is like a lot cheaper than
Adam:Yeah.
dax:The automated thing. Yeah. It's kind of like not even I worth actually think that's maybe why all these robotics companies Like, I don't see how getting one in your home Like, I feel the good one would be so expensive that, like, for most people it's not It wouldn't be
Adam:like a mass market thing, know, like most people would just Yeah.
dax:Most people probably can't even afford having a cleaner come and this will be more expensive than that.
Adam:So Yeah. And then as I think about it, like, if AI really does taking start like knocking out a bunch of knowledge working jobs, people are gonna have to have something to do. Cleaning might be therapeutic. Like, what are we gonna do if we lose all our jobs? Are we gonna lose all our jobs?
Adam:We talk about this a lot. Do we need to stop talking about this?
dax:Every day that goes by, think it's less likely.
Adam:Less likely.
dax:I think it was that likely to begin with. Okay. There's like the crazy outcome and there's a boring outcome. Both are pretty world changing. Every company I talk to, like, through, like, you know, through SST, so many AI companies, like, so many problems being solved, all very boring.
dax:Like, it's not like the crazy outcome. It's like, hey, we've solved this niche little problem in this space that's been elusive forever and we're gonna build a 10,000,000 ARR company that does it. Mhmm. Great. Like that that's That has gonna happen a thousand times over.
dax:Yeah. Lots of problems getting fixed but
Adam:So just a a decade of implementing is what we're looking at? It's the boring Yeah.
dax:I'm not a 100% sure if that's what's gonna happen, but just every day that goes by, it's going more and more in that direction. It could still flip, but I don't know. That's how I feel. Yeah.
Adam:How do you feel how do you feel about the AI code stuff after it's been a couple weeks since we've recorded? I feel like a couple weeks of doing this stuff, I have new takeaways or new learnings. I don't know.
dax:Well, you start then.
Adam:Three seven's just not it's not good enough. It's still it's just not good enough for me. I want it to be better. I feel like if I start with Gemini or I start with even o three to, like, lay out a good plan, it keeps it on the track better. I I want it to be better so badly.
Adam:I want Claude four to come out and and just, like, get us over the hump.
dax:Can you give me a discrete example of something you try to get it to do and what you do to make it perform better?
Adam:Well, let's let's use the OpenCode example. Yeah. So in OpenCode, just yesterday, I'm adding just adding color schemes to open code as like a I wanna use open code to improve open code just like more reasons to use it. It like, it just doesn't it doesn't see the whole picture well enough
dax:Mhmm.
Adam:To, like, be comprehensive. So, like, there's this the first task really in introducing theming into this thing is, like, we need to consolidate all the places where colors are being referenced throughout the code base. And it just fails to get there. It fails to get all of it kinda consolidated. And then once it does, if you just do this through Quad seven or three seven, like, you don't incorporate any other steps in the workflow, It also just starts taking really dumb approaches to, like, the next step, which is, like, switching themes and how do you reinitialize the app or just update the app so that it renders the new colors.
Adam:It's like recreating stuff it should not recreate. It's just doing a lot of making a lot of dumb decisions. Mhmm. If I take, like, something like RepoMix and I just do a big text file dump of the code base and I hand it to Gemini 2.5 Pro, and I tell it everything I want and I just tell it it's writing a prompt for a dumb LLM, then it creates a really nice plan with, like, seven steps. And it seems to work through those steps pretty well.
Adam:So, like, it's like 3.7 just can't do the, like, planning thing. Can't do the like the high level thinking. Gemini and o three seem way better at that and Croc three two, but I think Gemini and o three are better than Croc three Yeah. Now.
dax:Well, what's funny is I never think to use it the way you're trying to use it. I actually naturally just do the thing that you're getting o three or something or Gemini to do, which is so I'll give you an example. So for me Oh,
Adam:you've come up with a plan.
dax:Yeah. Yeah. Like, I had a code base where half of it was like in a older CSS pattern and I wanted to move everything to like the newer pattern.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:So I didn't just My instinct wasn't to be like, hey, go fix this across the code base.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:I literally just went file by file. I was like, here's here's a pattern I like, look through this file and apply it.
Adam:Yeah, it's way better than
dax:this file. So, I guess, that's like obviously inefficient, like, I'm doing something pretty mechanic, whereas, like, I should be able to tell it, go through all the files, anything that looks old like this, make it look more like this. And you're saying that if you gave that to a I guess, o three is a reasoning model. Gemini 2.5 Pro, is that a reasoning model?
Adam:I don't know. I don't even care. People just the names of models and types of models and all this stuff just drives me crazy.
dax:I'm trying to understand like if that's why it's better because
Adam:Yeah.
dax:I like the reasoning models are
Adam:so much better at coming up with a
dax:large they're coming with a plan first before executing because they like mean, have that
Adam:seven thinking is reasoning. Right?
dax:Oh, that doesn't that's not good enough either.
Adam:I but it's so it's so silly. You have to, like, say think or think harder. Those have different meanings. Like, if you tell it to think, and maybe I didn't in this case, I think I use it the way you're describing in code bases I really know. Like, the terminal code base, the stat me use code base, I use it as more of a scalpel, not like a like the OpenCode code base, I was not involved.
Adam:I do not know my way around it. I just wanna, like, build features through prompting. And I think that's maybe the vibe coding thing. Maybe that's why I'm I'm depressed about three seven because, like, it's not as good at that. It's better when you kinda, like, know what you're doing in the code base and you're just using it for the dumb parts and the, like, tedious parts.
Adam:Mhmm. That that's when I feel better. Yeah. I also don't like how, like I think you've described this or somebody has described this feeling of like I don't know. You like it because you watch TV shows, but it's just doesn't feel like programming.
Adam:It's like tabbing between five different tabs I don't like that. Keeping the ball rolling. Yeah. I don't like that.
dax:You're just not in you're not in focus mode at all.
Adam:You're like Guess what?
dax:In jitter mode.
Adam:Yeah. Jitter It's not yeah. It's not my strength. So I guess that in that sense, it's like a a hedge. Like, either outcome, I'm probably okay with.
Adam:Programming becomes completely automated and AI is so good, like, Cloud four comes out and it just blows my mind. That'd be a fun world probably, as long as we have jobs. Or it doesn't and we get to go back to programming, which I love. We'll see.
dax:Yeah. I think I think what I am feeling is that and I've talked about this a little bit before. I'm now putting way more work into designing patterns and rules and consistency, not just in the code but just in the product. So for Radiant, I like put in so much work into our we have like this dialogue that pops up that can whenever you have to select from a list of options, like we pop the dialogue show list of options. In the past, I would have just been like, okay, have like roughly something that pops up and then in every place we use it, you know, like I'll like make it work for what makes sense in in in the case where it's used.
dax:So traditional, like, programming mindset of like don't over abstract too early, you know, like, in local places, like, things might vary, so your abstraction might be brittle. That was like my default. But now, I'm taking the complete opposite approach where I'm like, I need to make this like the most powerful, flexible, useful dialogue ever. Because I wanna make sure that whenever I ask AI to do something, it can just use the You have think too hard. Mhmm.
dax:So it's like really focused on enabling, you know, quote unquote a team that can just go build stuff without making too many decisions. Like, I'm doing a lot more of that upfront and like, I'd always eventually get there but this ordering is totally different now. Like, I usually get there after, you know, the project's been around for x amount of time.
Adam:Now, I'm like really eager to
dax:get it all out upfront. And even the product design ends up looking a bit different because we're a little bit more reluctant for inconsistency even if the inconsistency leads to a better situation in some cases.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:But yeah, like it's definitely changing the way I work and I just feel like I'm spending a lot more time doing the whole senior developer building stuff so that junior developers can be successful. Yeah. That that seems to be like a 100% of my focus now or like where
Adam:I live. Yeah. Which is it's it's a shift for me. I've never I've never been in a position where we're trying to hire junior developers. Like Statenuse has never hired junior developers.
Adam:Terminal's not hiring junior develop like, it's just never a thing I've thought about in my code base. It's like making it good for dumb people. And I know you think about it because you've got because you're get me dumb. Yeah. No.
Adam:The SST, like, mono repo, all the stuff you do, all your patterns, it seems to really work well with those. AI does.
dax:Yeah. It's I mean, I I think I went through a period of time at my previous companies where my entire strategy was let's just hire junior people because I didn't I knew we could only afford to hire mid level people and I found mid level people extremely annoying to work with. Because they were just Probably
Adam:be like blank slate people.
dax:Yeah. So I like entirely optimized around hiring junior engineers. So I spent years just making sure or like learning how to like create frameworks and structures and stuff. And obviously, working at SST, that's like that turbocharged because you're doing that for many different companies. But then a SST and then a terminal, I got past this thing where I could only hire people that were mid level.
dax:Like, at SD is pretty senior, everyone at terminal is pretty senior. But now I'm like, okay, I'm never gonna go back and and hire junior people. So, yeah, yeah, I don't have to worry about this then problem now AI. Yeah. It's brought me back to that.
dax:So, again, it's like very familiar to me because it's it's basically what I've been doing for most of my career. But I see why I would guess that most people have not been in that kind of situation. It's probably the exception that you have experience doing that. So I get why people are like, this thing sucks, it's so bad. But I think it's just because your job needs to look a little bit different.
Adam:Yeah. Hey, we haven't talked about oh, we haven't talked since Miami. We haven't talked about the week in Miami, the yacht, just all of it.
dax:Yeah.
Adam:Where do wanna start?
dax:So just to summarize for everyone, last week was React Miami. Adam came initially, but then had
Adam:to leave early because his kids were sick, unfortunately.
dax:Mhmm. We missed you. Every time we did something, we're like,
Adam:it'd be fun if Adam was here. Would have been in to hear. I was sad. And it was a hard it was hard because I you feel bad being sad when like you did the right thing. It's like my ended up in the hospital.
Adam:Like, it was bad. Like, both my kids got pneumonia. My littlest one had double ear infection. It was just it was really bad. Like, he's in the hospital late at night, so I flew back the next morning.
Adam:I know I need to come back. I I wanted to be there. And then it's like I felt guilty for being sad that I'm missing stuff throughout the week when like I need to be there. But then I I learned I worked it out. I learned like, no, it's okay.
Adam:I can have two things can be true at once. Right. I can be disappointed that I missed out on stuff, but also know that I need to be home. So, yeah. Yeah.
Adam:I missed a lot of fun things. Could you tell them about the fun things? And me.
dax:So you got here on Sunday. We all hung out. We went to dinner on Sunday. And Monday, what do we do? Oh, so Monday, Supa Base has been Supa Base has been making these documentaries.
dax:They've only done one so far, think. And we're the second one. So we filmed a quote unquote documentary about Terminal. Of course. We just kind of said a bunch of stuff that just wasn't true and was funny, hopefully.
dax:We'll see what they do with the footage.
Adam:Hopefully, we'll see.
dax:And then what do we do after that? What do we do after that on Monday?
Adam:After the well, we started, like, working on the song. I mean, working
dax:Oh, on yeah. So, the we rented a yacht for Tuesday. Well, the story here is, I knew that I'd get a yacht for half price. So, my grandma's gonna be in Miami, I'm just gonna do it. So, I booked a yacht.
dax:Then I was like, hey, guys, what should we do with this?
Adam:What should we do with
dax:yacht? And TJ was very confident that we should just make a rap video and all of us were just kinda like, oh, okay. Like, that sounds good.
Adam:I don't I don't know about it. There were many doubts.
dax:Yeah. We're like
Adam:From every corner of Terminal.
dax:Yeah. Because
Adam:I am But Teej.
dax:I am not musical at all, like, it's just not something I've ever done. It's something not something I feel comfortable with at all. But Teej was very confident, pulled all of us through it. And so Monday, we worked on lyrics. So Tuesday, unfortunately, we got to leave, but then we, you know, got on a yacht, we had all these plans for what we were gonna shoot.
dax:We also didn't have the song at this point, so we were just like, we did the video first without the song, so we're just kind of hoping that, you know, things would line up. That morning, by the way, I went and I bought a drone. I don't know if I told you this. No. I bought a DJI Mini four.
Adam:So, you didn't use the drone guy's drone, you used your own?
dax:So, I was We were gonna hire a drone guy and I was talking to him and he was like, oh, I can only do ten eighty p. And we're like, what? Like, why can't only
Adam:do ten eighty p?
dax:Like, what drone do six? Yeah. And he, like, tows a drone and
Adam:it is like one of
dax:the mats like, one of the massive it's like a 20,000 DGI drone. Which like in hindsight, it's too big. It's like, we would have to like clear the deck or the yacht to like launch Yeah. This thing every
Adam:So, it's definitely overkill, but he was like, oh yeah, I need
dax:like a license and I don't have the license. And I was like, okay, can pay for the license. So like, DJI's like crazy with the licensing. I don't if it's their fault or if it's like how the industry is, but Yeah. It's like these pretty expensive licenses to like be able to actually take advantage of what your drone can do.
dax:And he was like, oh, no, it's like on a physical thing. So like, won't even get in time. So we had to like cancel with him because he couldn't get the license and time whatever. Mhmm.
Adam:I was
dax:like, okay, I'll just buy a drone. I've I've always kind of wanted one. So there's randomly a DGI store in Miami. So I went, there was only one left of the one that we
Adam:needed. Wow.
dax:Got the last one. And man, this thing is so cool.
Adam:You guys learned how to use it in time for drone shots?
dax:Again, for audience, we also had, the Kurzan team here, Ben and Shiva. If you don't know, you probably know who they are. They're the ones that made the microservices video, which all of us have seen. They're very talented, very funny, cool team. It was awesome having them with us.
Adam:You guys are great.
dax:Yeah. So Shiba, like, just spent the morning while we so oh, so that morning after I bought the drone, were all just running around trying to find costumes and stuff for us. We were just, like, going to the mall and, like, doing whatever, trying to find any kind of stuff. They ended up finding a costume store that worked out and got a bunch of funny stuff.
Adam:Coffee company, by the way.
dax:Yeah, we're a coffee company, know, just normal coffee company things. Normal. So Shiva, like, figured out, like, set up the drone, download updates, etcetera. As we went on the yacht, the captain was just like, what the hell are you guys doing? He he thought it was funny.
dax:I thought it would be like I wasn't sure if they would find it weird, but he thought it was funny and thought it was awesome and he was like super That into into all of
Adam:could have ruined the vibe. Could That have made it very awkward if you're like dancing and like doing stuff and he's like, what in the world?
dax:Yeah, exactly. He he thought we were he thought it was really cool.
Adam:Okay.
dax:So, he took us out and then we just anchored in the bay and then we just filmed all these different shots of us together independently. Then we split up and we're just doing like little individual like skits on our own just to get as much footage as possible. It was really fun. It was obviously awkward at the beginning but like once we got into it, it was funny like we the first costume were these like nerdy like NASA engineer style costumes.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:And that was, I don't know if it was just the costumes or if it was, like, you
Adam:know, just because it was
dax:the first thing we're trying to do. Like, we're a little stiff. It was a little awkward.
Adam:Yeah.
dax:Then we switched into, like, our Miami outfits and, like, everything loosened up. Like, all those shots are just so much better and we got some Yeah. Some really, really, really good good scenes.
Adam:And then we're like, hey, time is,
dax:like, sunsetting, like, we gotta film with the drone. And everyone was too nervous to use it. And Josh was just so Josh heard the camera, the videographer we hired. He was like, okay, I'll just do it.
Adam:Like over the water, just scared it would fall?
dax:Yeah. Because it was like, this is crazy. And he he just nailed it. He, like, got it up and then just was filming all these shots and was, like, swooping in and doing all that stuff.
Adam:Nice.
dax:Yeah. The drone can do all these things automatically, by the way. We just, like, didn't know how to work it. But whatever. We got some some really nice drone shots.
dax:But here's the funny thing, though. So when the drone takes off, it marks where it took took off from. And then when you hit land, it like flies back to where
Adam:it took off from and and lands. Oh, no.
dax:So Was the boat moving? We're anchored, so I'm like, okay, this is fine. So we do a test run and when it comes back down, it's landing in a complete different spot. I'm like, what's going on? The boat's rotating the whole time.
dax:It's not still, it's just rotating. So we couldn't use the auto land thing. It wasn't a big deal, but it just kind
Adam:of funny because it felt like
dax:we were still, but we were rotating.
Adam:You're moving.
dax:But don't just like gonna like land directly in the water. It's also really smart. So I
Adam:think if it got close to the water, it
dax:would know and then it would just like not land. Mhmm. They make it really hard for to mess it up. Like, was playing with it, like, yesterday and man, this thing is so cool. It feels like you know in video games where you can get like a camera that like flies around the map?
dax:Yeah. It literally feels like that because it's so stable. It feels like you can move anywhere instantly. It's real time streaming to your controller. And I was just like, it was like flying a video game camera like around my neighborhood.
dax:Like, it was It's really really cool. Really cool technology. It's gotten so advanced.
Adam:I've always wanted a drone and I've never been able to think of a reason to have a drone. Yeah. It's like
dax:Yeah, exactly. I finally had the excuse to buy one Yeah. With terminal money.
Adam:I mean, maybe maybe it's literally just like, I should get one just for me and the boys to just like play with.
dax:It's fun. It'd
Adam:just be fun to like fly around and see what stuff looks like from the air. Like, just as like a it's purely entertainment. It's literally it. We're not trying to record stuff. We're not Yeah.
dax:And where you live where there isn't much like many buildings and stuff, it can go 10 kilometers. Isn't that insane?
Adam:What what's the kilometer again? Is that like a mile?
dax:I think it's I think it's like 1.6 miles or the other
Adam:way around.
dax:Oh, wow. Yeah. 1.6 miles.
Adam:It go more than 10 miles.
dax:Sorry. One mile is 1.6 kilometers, all the way around. So, fewer than 10 miles. Okay.
Adam:Within 10 miles. Yeah. If it can go miles, that's impressive.
dax:It's crazy because like Okay.
Adam:How much is a drone like this? Do you mind So this
dax:was, it's only a thousand.
Adam:Oh.
dax:Nothing that So and this had the upgraded controller that had the so there's there's like a dumber controller where you dock your phone and the phone serves as the screen. They didn't have that one, so we got the more expensive one. It has
Adam:a screen built in.
dax:And you can just tell it's like is just like an Android phone
Adam:or something that's embedded into
dax:the controller. And yeah, has like why has it hit? It it can do so now this four the four Pro, which is one I got, once you launch it, you can do auto track mode and when you do that, it like On the screen, it detects all the humans or like dogs or whatever and you can like There's like a little plus icon, you can tap it and it just follows you.
Adam:It just
dax:follows you around and
Adam:you can walk around. It's amazing.
dax:It avoids trees, it avoids everything else. You can say, okay, do like a circle shot around me and it'll do like it'll like kinda spin around you as you're walking. Crazy. Thirty something minutes of flight time for one one charge. It's pretty good, Yeah.
dax:You know, it's pretty solid. And we got a second battery anyway. So, yeah, these things are amazing. Here's another fun detail. So if the FAA at some point put in a regulation, if the drone is over 250 grams, you need like a special license to be allowed to fly it.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:DGI within weeks of that regulation had a drone that was 249 grams.
Adam:Oh, wow.
dax:This this drone weighs two forty nine.
Adam:Yeah. It's right license. Nice.
dax:Yeah. So you can just do whatever you want. I'm still Even then, I'm surprised how legal it is because Route 1, like the huge highway, is like right by where I live. And I flew the drone up and I flew it over and it's like over the highway and I'm like,
Adam:Wow.
dax:I could just slam into a car right now and causing a massive disaster.
Adam:Oh, jeez. It's a good point. Like, you could actually do, I don't know, bad things with a camera on it. You know, like Yeah. Isn't like a privacy thing?
Adam:I don't know. Yeah. Like, just buzzing I mean, there's that Drake video of like the fake, like, drone pulling up to his tower and he's like throwing the shoe at it or whatever. Yeah. But like really, couldn't drones be really like invasive?
Adam:Why aren't they everywhere?
dax:I'm terrified of drones. I'm like, if you just get a grenade and put on a drone, like, how do how do you stop it?
Adam:Jeez. Ugh. Yeah. Well, yeah, you hear about, like I guess those aren't the same kind of drones, but you hear about the the war The war yeah. Yeah.
Adam:Exactly. Russia and Ukraine, like, the drone warfare is such a huge part of it. It's like, how
dax:far are we from? Have you seen what they do now? So it's it's it's crazy, the cat and mouse thing. So typical drone, how do you solve it? You try to, like, make the signal.
dax:You try to jam the signal. You make it so it's like, you know, you, like, mess up the radio waves. Pretty effective. Then they just started using wired drones. What?
dax:So they have just thin wire that is miles long
Adam:Oh,
dax:that they my just fly the drone with. It's So just a wired That's crazy. And now they have counter drones that just cut the wire.
Adam:Oh my god. This is nuts. Yeah. Like all the crazy machinery that was developed through, like, World War two and post World War two and, like, all this crazy war machinery. And then it was, like, these little drones.
Adam:That's what ended up being, like, the most effective thing.
dax:I honestly, like, I like, I'm sure people that are in charge of the military are, like, working through all these, like they're probably just running, like, simulations and stuff. But I'm, like, yeah, if you just have, like, 5,000 drones and they're, like Yeah. Not manually controlled, they're automated and they're just explosive. Like, what the what the ultimate warfare?
Adam:Like, what Mhmm.
dax:You can take out and it's funny, I think, especially with this Russia Ukraine war, I like really understood how war is just like an economic battle. It's like, okay, this tank costs $5,000,000, how can we take it out for less than $5,000,000? And if we can keep doing that, we run out of money like later than the past.
Adam:100 than them. Yeah. Yeah.
dax:So it's always about like calculating. Is it worth risking this thing? Like, can we get like an asymmetric win here? Yeah. So, man, this stuff is really wild.
Adam:But, you
dax:can buy one for a thousand dollars.
Adam:Yeah. Thousand dollars for a drone. So then Tuesday night, you guys went to a recording studio and actually recorded the song. Was that the plan all along? I didn't know there was gonna be a recording studio.
dax:Was it Tuesday night? No, it was.
Adam:No, it wasn't. Yeah, was the night or no, it was the next day?
dax:No. So we were tired from the yacht. I think we we're just tired and we like, you know, went, slept. And we're talking about how, man, like, it's gonna be hard for us to record manually at home. Okay.
dax:But I guess it's fine, we can do it. Then, like, TJ decided to just, like, look up music studios and there's it's in Miami, so there's a bunch. Yeah. And we're like, okay, let's just do it.
Adam:Let's just do it. Let's just go
dax:to music studio. Here's the crazy part. So, we found a music studio. It's literally walking distance from my house. I see I The area that I've seen all the time, I didn't know there was a music studio there.
dax:It looks like a house. I was like, man, this is gonna be expensive. Don't if this isn't in the budget. Four hours. $4,420.
Adam:What?
dax:Yeah. You serious? It's so cheap. Okay. So I'm like, okay, this is great deal but I guess it's just like getting a little music studio or whatever.
dax:And we and we go in, it doesn't immediately look that impressive because it's clearly like a house that was converted. Then we go into like the studio part and there's a guy there and we we brought Ken with us because we're like, Ken needs to like talk to them because we don't know what we're And and Ken's like asking the guy all these questions and I could tell the guy was like being polite but like, could tell the guy was, don't worry, like, I know what the hell I'm doing. And he's, like, okay, let's start recording. This is to our song. It's, like, the beat that we had for it.
dax:Then Prime goes in
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:And this guy is, like so imagine the best Neovim user you've ever seen. It's like the equivalent of that, but for whatever this audio audio software he was using.
Adam:Tools or whatever. Yeah.
dax:He was going crazy. Like, he was out was he had Prime do his verse and he was like in real time swapping out individual words from different takes. He was like, Prime go again, Prime go again, swapping out, then he's like, okay, okay, Prime, can you go like this? Can you go Can you go like that? He would take that immediately put it in like a thing.
dax:He's like, okay,
Adam:can can you go like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dax:No. He heard Prime he was like he was telling Prime, oh, like, do this line like this and Prime goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it always goes.
Adam:Yeah.
dax:Yeah. Immediately grabbed that, put it in as like an ad lib after a line. He's making like insane magic and he probably spent like fifteen, twenty minutes on Primed because we were all like, we're nervous. We're like, we've never done this before, is this gonna come out good? Made Prime sound like a freaking pro.
dax:He just pulled out magic, got him to do all this stuff it's it's crazy because it's literally like, the full final verse. I have no idea how like, each word is probably from, like, a different
Adam:Really?
dax:Different try and it sounds totally cohesive. Would just never Why? It's called punching in. They basically, like, pull out a thing and they like punch in they like punch in each word at a time.
Adam:I've actually been in the studio a few times for
dax:Oh, really?
Adam:Yeah. Like, Busbee was one of Colin's friends. We went when he recorded an album in I think it was in Nashville. And then Colin's been in the studio a ton, my my brother.
dax:Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Adam:So I've actually been in recording studios. I kind of know the the lay of that. I I I know what you're talking about.
dax:Okay. Yeah. So I would I I'd never done this. And it was fun because like every minute the song is getting a little bit better and he's like, everyone's riffing on his ideas and like, you know, we'd had like it it was just so much fun. You know what it felt like?
dax:It felt like it really just felt like going bowling or like doing karaoke, like one of those kinds of activities because Yeah. It's not like we're dropping $5, we're dropping a 100 and something dollars per hour Actually, which is I nothing. I can't would just come here all the time with my friends and just walk out with like a song, like that's this is insane. So then I I like stepped out and I'm like looking around like the kind of hallway in the studio and they have all these like signs on the wall. And I'm realizing this is not a random studio.
dax:This is like there was a sign on the wall for Gasolina which is like I don't if you know this song, but when I was in high school, it's like the first Latin song I'd ever heard. It was famous that it like made it to suburban New Jersey where there's no like Latin rap wasn't like a thing Yeah.
Adam:There.
dax:It it was like crazy crazy successful, like super popular, put that whole genre on the map, like all the Latin music that exists now is like because of this one song.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:And the guy that owns the studio made that song. Like, he's credited with making he's a producer of that studio. And he owns three studios, one in Puerto Rico, one in Miami and one in, like, Chile or something. And then they have a wall with all these people that record in the studio, like, with this Polaroid. And it's like the most famous people ever.
dax:It's like
Adam:Really?
dax:Like, I would say, I would Bad Bunny is probably the most famous, but every him and like, below him, everyone, everyone. And I was like, this is crazy. This is literally in my neighborhood. We randomly picked this studio. We ended up with like a beast of a sound engineer that can A just 120 pull magic out of it and for for this price, like this, I can't believe How how
Adam:much more was the sushi dinner the night before? Like A
dax:lot more.
Adam:A lot more, right?
dax:Well, that's what we did. We went to oh, no. Were you there at the sushi dinner?
Adam:You were
dax:there at the sushi dinner.
Adam:I was there at the sushi. That was on okay. It was Monday night. Yeah.
dax:Yeah. So I'm like, this is I I can't believe because we could have picked any studio. Like, we just picked this one because it was the closest one to to my house. And I was shocked at how because I am not a good singer, I'm not musical and he just pulled out like the best possible outcome out of us. That's it was really, really impressive.
Adam:Yeah. Did did he actually did you guys just use So Ken had made like the track Yeah. With the sound. Is that what is in the final thing or did he remake it or He
dax:he like remixed a little bit. There's there's a few things where he like remixed it a little bit, it's like roughly exactly that. But he just he was like pulling up sound effects from nowhere and like throwing stuff. He was having a great time too. He like, he thought we were really funny and he was having he was genuinely having a good time.
dax:And the other thing is like, we started at like 10PM and went to 3AM, which I guess is normal hours for a studio.
Adam:That's insane. It's not normal hours for me.
dax:But he was impressed with us because he was like, man, like very few people get a whole song in he's like, sometimes we spend weeks doing a single verse, which makes sense and Ken was saying this too because Ken owned a studio at some point. He's like, yeah, people come in and they don't take it that seriously. They just get like drunk and they like smoke a bunch of weed and they just like kind of hang out and they barely get any work done. So I think that's what they were used to where we were like, we have to get this done.
Adam:Autistic programmer. Yeah, exactly. Got a deadline. Sprint planning tomorrow. Come on.
dax:Yeah, exactly. We were so we were just so machine like about it. But that way, it was so much fun and now I'm just like, this is just an activity I wanna do. Like, whenever there's people in town or whatever, like, when we need something to do
Adam:That's cheap entertainment. I mean, relative to lots
dax:of All you do is write some lyrics and then just go in the studio and hang out and you can like get food and like just, you know, record with each other and it was it was a lot of fun. It was really really fun.
Adam:So there's a music video coming. We've turned along Yes.
dax:We have the song, we have the raw footage recorded, Josh is working on edits. We gotta figure out how to work you in there.
Adam:Yeah. I'm willing. Yeah. Just let me know. I'll record something.
dax:Man, I think the best thing would be for you to just come out here for
Adam:a day
dax:and just record this video with Antonio.
Adam:I could just not have any audio. Could also just Yeah. Nah. Set a two second b roll of me somewhere.
dax:Here's the funniest part. I don't know if you saw it. Did you see me post their Instagram?
Adam:No. You posted our art the terminal No.
dax:So the studio has an Instagram and I was scrolling through Instagram. It's just like the most stereotypical, like, rappers, like, you know, like don people, like, just doing their thing, they all look cool and whatever. And then there's like a one minute montage of us in there alongside all these people and it's just so funny. They also took our pictures, the Polaroids and they put it Yeah. Up against So we're like up there with all these
Adam:That's awesome.
dax:All these people.
Adam:Oh, man. I can't believe it's that cheap. I would have thought like thousands of dollars. I mean, it's still worth it, but
dax:We get a whole song out of it, you know. It's it's wild.
Adam:Our debut album.
dax:Maybe we'll go platinum. We'll double platinum.
Adam:Oh, man. Is there other terminal stuff? I guess that week you guys did terminal feud.
dax:Yeah. And the next day we had a party at my house. We did this fun thing where we put a couch in my front
Adam:yard with the terminal flag behind it and we just had people sit the
dax:couch and Primary DJ like interviewed them. So we have all that footage. I don't think we've released much of it. We had my party, then we had there was like that React Miami after party and we went to the
Adam:wait, do we go to the studio after that?
dax:No, maybe you I can't remember the order of things.
Adam:I feel like the studio was
dax:the day after the Yeah. Studio was that. So we did the my party, the React Miami party, I went to studio. Then Thursday,
Adam:we went to the conference for
dax:a little bit to say hi, then we went back home. We had to record a bunch of our sponsored we had sponsors for for React Miami, so we recorded some commercials Oh, for
Adam:the ads were so good.
dax:Yeah. I mean, having like a real videographer, like the ads came out so good, like the the one with Prime like waking up in bed like Mhmm. Looks super legit. Okay. I remember being jealous of Aaron and like and Steve.
dax:Yeah.
Adam:The try hard stuff.
dax:I'm like, not jealous anymore.
Adam:We got one of the He's that stuff. Yeah.
dax:Yeah. So he's he's makes us look so good. Oh, this is another thing. So in the when we were filming in the yacht,
Adam:I
dax:was just
Adam:like, man, I don't think
dax:we look cool. Like, I just don't think we're gonna look cool and I wasn't I wasn't sure. Then he showed us that footage with Prime, like, sitting there with like, he's wearing he's wearing a wig and he's like doing all this stuff.
Adam:Oh, that's so good.
dax:Yeah. And I'm like, he looks so legit. Like, this was like a legit rap video and I'm like, it's just the camera. It is literally just
Adam:He's the got like a The red camera. The red camera. It's nice.
dax:It just our brains associate that quality style yeah. With being legitimate. Mhmm. And it just looked it just looked great. It just looked amazing.
Adam:Like All that stuff. All that
dax:All stuff.
Adam:Yeah. You gotta subscribe. If you're listening to this, you should probably go subscribe to the Terminal YouTube.
dax:Terminal YouTube, yes. Have a
Adam:bunch vlog stuff on It was
dax:We have so much good content coming out there.
Adam:It's very entertaining.
dax:Yeah. So filmed some stuff with him. I worked on Family Feud, cleaning up the Terminal Feud code base that whole day. And the next day, showed up to run Terminal Feud again. Went really smooth, like we did we had like no issues or anything, technical issues or whatever.
dax:People loved it, people
Adam:were laughing the whole time, it went great.
dax:And then that was it. We didn't we ended
Adam:up skipping the React Miami after party. We're just kinda tired at
dax:that point of socializing. So Yeah. We just hung out. Then everyone went home on Saturday.
Adam:I still I still need to watch the Terminal Feud. I haven't I started the stream for it and I haven't watched it. I was just Yeah. Out of pocket. It it went well though.
dax:Yeah. We did two games. I think in the future like, the first game was I I
Adam:think it was it was
dax:really good overall. The first game was definitely higher energy. I think it's hard to keep people at that level for Mhmm. An hour and a half.
Adam:Yeah. So if we ever do again, I don't think we will. But if we do, think we'd stick
dax:to one game and just make sure it goes for
Adam:Yeah. Time.
dax:But it was good. Top g was there. He was a participant.
Adam:Yeah. Lots of little clips I've seen of of YouTube or photos.
dax:Yeah. That was that was funny. Funny. They asked him what his favorite part of React Miami was and
Adam:he says, Dax, and everyone lost their shit. I did see that somewhere. That would
dax:be a good short when we post it later.
Adam:Yeah. It's good. So yeah. Good successful week. Good stuff.
dax:Got our YouTube established. Got so much else coming up.
Adam:We're rolling out a digital membership so you can have all the benefits of Kron membership without the coffee.
dax:Yeah. It's cheaper.
Adam:Cheaper. If don't live in The US and you can't
dax:get it anyway, can now get it. You're gonna get all sorts of behind the scenes access. We have we have so much footage and so much content like and then it's all so funny. In hindsight, we wish we had a second we had like a
Adam:we had like another person under Josh to like film more stuff. Mhmm. Because he can only film one thing at a time and we miss a lot of funny things that were happening. A whole week like that, there's just so much going on. Yeah.
dax:Yeah. Like, there was this
Adam:whole thing where Prime and Ben were trying
dax:to put together the whiteboard for the because we bought a whiteboard for that ad we were filming. That itself could have just been like a whole video
Adam:if there was a camera
dax:guy because they were just like it just they were just not doing a great job. And I'm like, we could just tell that how to do a whiteboard interview, but just them building the whiteboard and like being horrible at it.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. It's funny when you think of like Ben and Prime as like these huge YouTube figures and they're building a whiteboard. There's like nothing going on in the video, just them building a whiteboard.
Adam:Be entertaining.
dax:It was funny. It was funny just even just hearing them in the background while I was working.
Adam:Yeah.
dax:Yeah. So that was a week. It was the week. You can watch the vlogs to really see it.
Adam:Yeah. The vlogs are great. Very exciting. Much excitement. Anything else going on with
dax:you? I think just kind of last thing on the React Miami stuff. So, like, I think a takeaway I had was Terminal Feud was really, really great and we're gonna upload a video of that. But the vlogs to me are what where all the value was because they're so wide reaching, like anyone can watch them and find them entertaining. Mhmm.
dax:Terminal Feud, you know, it's a little bit more narrow. A lot of inside jokes there, a lot of like internet based jokes. But like Jay Jay's girlfriend watched she's a lawyer, she's not technical. She watched the vlogs and I mean, obviously, she knows us, so it's a little bit more personal.
Adam:But
dax:she watched all of it, she found it funny, like she understood most of it. So I'm really excited to just continuously being able to put that stuff out there.
Adam:Yeah. Yeah. When are we when are we when are we in person next? What's after Miami?
dax:I don't know. We don't have any official plans. We got some stuff in the works, but I don't I don't know what's gonna be next. Yeah. We'll see.
Adam:We'll see.
dax:We'll see. We'll buy we'll buy a warehouse in LA and we'll start to film. That's that's our next goal.
Adam:I do love LA. Casey and I have always loved going to Southern California. It's so nice. I mean, the weather is so nice.
dax:I love LA. I would move there instantly.
Adam:Yeah. It's the driving around LA. Like, I guess if you just were like parked in like
dax:mean, I if you Santa Monica. Or Santa Monica. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
dax:Yeah. You can walk everywhere pretty much.
Adam:That's true.
dax:That's probably what I would try
Adam:to do. Yeah. There's not really I guess, when I've been in LA, it's been for work stuff and like Disney stuff. We're having to go to Glendale, which is like an hour and a half drive from Santa Monica. If you're in like a cool place in LA and then you want to get to those places where the studios are, it's like a nightmare.
Adam:It's the wrong time of day. So I've just got all these memories of being in LA in a car on like one of the freeways just forever in the car.
dax:Everyone in LA complains about the driving. But I I think I'm assuming it's very similar to my current situation where Miami is a very car based city, but I live in
Adam:You live in a neighborhood.
dax:Area, so I don't really have to leave that much.
Adam:Yeah. That makes sense.
dax:But that said, anywhere I wanna go, I can get to
Adam:in fifteen minutes, which might not be the case in my in LA. But
dax:Yeah. Yeah. Weather is great. I said The ocean is there. Would much rather move there than the Bay Area.
Adam:Yeah. Are you moving to the Bay Area? What's the deal? Are we talking about it on the podcast?
dax:I did post a thing being like, if I post like my ideal type of way to live
Adam:and like like, is this possible in the
dax:Bay Area? The reason I posted that is we're like, okay, if we decide to move, like, is that an option? We're considering it. Jay is probably gonna move there just because it does makes way too much sense. Like one of us has to be in SF, pretty much.
dax:So he's definitely moving there within a year, probably in in about a year or so. And I'm wondering, okay, should I move there too? I'm not so sure. I like I'm very reluctant to give up the weather in Miami. I don't like the weather in San Francisco.
dax:I think it can be nice. I think it's not nice enough where you stop thinking about the weather, which is what I have right now.
Adam:Mhmm.
dax:And the second thing is like, this is kind of surprising to me because I would think people there would care about this. So, obviously, SF itself is very walkable. But I don't want to live in SF, want to live, like, outside of it. Yeah. Mhmm.
dax:It's not very like, they don't have these, like, nice little communities that I would I would expect. To me, it's other cliche, like, liberal leaning urban ish area. You think everyone cares about like, oh, want my cute little walkable neighborhood. But like, it's not. It's like very suburban and there's like Yeah.
dax:Center areas that are you can't really walk to and like if you even if you walk to it, it's like a weird walk where you're kinda walking in in weird places. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know. I just couldn't find an area that I was
Adam:So move move to Southern California and you just You do the forty five minute plane ride thing.
dax:Yeah. I mean, I think Jay would love to live in LA too. Like, he'd he's like
Adam:Yeah. Why not just ever be in LA? There you go. He's not happy
dax:about SF. He's like, we're resigned that it just makes too much sense that he'd to be in SF for some amount
Adam:of time. But he eventually wants to
dax:end up in in LA. Yeah. As do I. Or I mean, I wouldn't mind LA, but I don't know. I'm happy I thought through all this, I was like kind of excited, but I'm like, I'm pretty happy in Miami, like, don't I don't really I kinda have everything I want here, so I don't know.
Adam:Yeah. I don't have everything I want in the Ozarks. So I need you to figure out where you're gonna be and then we can figure out where we're gonna be.
dax:Where do I see you guys?
Adam:Ultimately, there's a very few places places that that we we would would consider. Consider. Like, we lived in Naples for a while, so South Florida is definitely it's on the list. California, I guess, like, Southern California, yes. The Bay Area, no.
Adam:Maybe Northern California?
dax:You guys would wanna be in you guys would wanna be in a house.
Adam:Yeah. You're not like trying to No. We're not trying to be in like a walkable city.
dax:Yeah. So I mean, the dream
Adam:would be Maui, if I'm just being honest. The dream would be like a fruit farm in Maui. And I'd never see any of you again. But, you know.
dax:How is that different than the Ozarks?
Adam:How's it different than The Ozarks? Better weather. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the mountains and the ocean, it's You
dax:guys have mountains in the Ozarks, don't you?
Adam:Growing mangoes.
dax:I don't know.
Adam:There's a lot of You don't have Yeah. We have mountains. They're just like wooded Mark Twain forest with meth labs. I mean, it's just a little different.
dax:Okay. Yes. Obviously, Hawaii
Adam:is incredible. Let me get
dax:that out the way first. Of course. I don't Okay. Here's my issue. I don't think I want to live on an island.
Adam:I get that.
dax:It's it's not like a To me, it's like a
Adam:very practical thing where I'm like,
dax:everything everything just has to get shipped to you and like there's all these I'm sure you're used to it. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure you're used
Adam:to it and you you like forget about that being
dax:a problem. But it's just it's like too out of the way for me Yeah. I think.
Adam:I don't think in this season of life, like, where there's actual travel needed and stuff, I don't think it makes sense.
dax:Yeah. That's yeah. Exactly.
Adam:It's like a retirement dream.
dax:Yeah. You can grab a fruit farm in South Florida.
Adam:No. It's true. Yeah. I mean, you can grow most everything we'd want to grow.
dax:Yeah. Yeah. I should move to Homestead.
Adam:Where's that?
dax:It is South Of Miami. Oh. It's basically where we go whenever we want to do farm stuff. There's like this really giant famous like fruit I guess you can call it a fruit stand, but it's like really big and they have their own like they have so much up there. It's like a giant fruit quote unquote stand.
dax:Yeah. It makes amazing milkshakes. So we we always go down there and all the fruit farms are down there and trees we go down there. And there's tons of
Adam:properties there or or I'm like, if we ever wanna have a farm, like, it's probably Okay. I'm gonna look into it. I didn't know there was like an actual place people live South Of Miami. Thought it was just like the drive to Key West.
dax:Yeah. So that's like into the water. This is like more around the the coast of Okay. Of Florida. So, yeah.
dax:Homestead is Is it Homestead?
Adam:Yeah. I'm totally into it.
dax:I'm doing can probably get there within forty five
Adam:minutes of where I currently live. So, you stay in Miami, then South Florida is definitely that's that's attractive.
dax:Yeah. And I don't even think it's
Adam:that expensive. I think you can get like a pretty nice house, big property. There's like a lot
dax:of like it's an area where they're like starting to develop more, like they're putting
Adam:Yeah.
dax:Bigger developments on there. But yeah, it's pretty it's pretty sweet.
Adam:Interesting.
dax:You can have all kinds of fruit trees. Okay.
Adam:I'll look into it. Alright. I gotta get up here. There's so much cloud prompting to do. So many tokens.
Adam:More work than ever
dax:even with AI. Yeah. It's just how it goes. Yeah. Alright.
Adam:Alright. See you, Dex.
dax:See you.
